Originally Posted by bajaholic (Post 4132661)

I Respectfully disagree.... It has EVERYTHING to do with what put the kid in the position in the first place. His decisions put him in that position.

The WP is on the lake for protection of everyone that is not operating in an unsafe manor. The kid jumped by the accounts of the witnesses, he too made that decision. Ramnifications are learned ALWAYS after the fact, rarely are they learned ahead of time.

Yes... The WP officer had him in custody, He placed cuffs on him to protect himself from being accosted by the arrest'y (SOP) He placed a PFD on him, and was driving the boat to unload and book him. The WP Boat was NOT in an accident, Didn't throw him overboard (according to witnesses) nor were there any actions by the WP officer to make the kid get up and jump off by any of the accounts that have been witnessed. I Just don't see where the WP didn't provide prudence in his duties? The kid made the decision and acted on it... He is responsible for his own actions...

Again I ask: What if the kid caused a larger accident, killed a bunch of people (maybe even one of your own friends/family) Would you be *****ing about the WP not having caught him if he had witnessed something, possible as trivial as beer can overboard? I am guessing they would still be on the chopping block...

Originally Posted by daddy (Post 4132779)

I hope the WP gets sued to high heaven. The arresting officer and his superiors should lose their job as well. The arresting officer will have to live with this forever, which he should. The government minions, aka police, are way out of control these days. The government will own us all one day.

Originally Posted by 36Tango (Post 4132788)

How about the Water Patrolman that "jumped out of his boat" just before hitting a Formula (32'er?) on a dark night last summer at LOTO? The Patrol boat was left doing circles at 25-35 mph in the main channel, at night, with people from both boats in the water swimming for shore. Yes indeed, the WP had no lanyard attached to kill the boats engines. Could have been really, really ugly. Never really heard much about that one in the news.

Originally Posted by rchuntlsl (Post 4132705)

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't read my text closely. I said statistically they are the most dangerous boaters at loto. Let's look at the math. There are about 450 incidents a year at loto ( this includes drownings that don't even include boats). Let's assume there is only 10,000 boats at loto ( there is more than that). This leaves us with an incident rate of .042 There is about 20 water patrol boats regularly at loto. They have about 5 major incidents a year ( this does not include all the damage to boats that they stop because the officer can not control his boat in the rough water) this leaves us with an accident rate of .25. They are 600% more likely to be in an incident than the average boater at loto.

I stand behind my statement that statistically they are the most dangerous boaters at loto.

Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4132053)

We saw a guy jump out of WP boat handcuffed and with vest on. Funny as chit watching WP poke him under with docking pole to calm him down.

Not that This situation is a laughing matter.

Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 4132761)

I completely disagree with your assumptions, that young man died, he was handcuffed, end of story. You are assuming he was impaired, you don't know that, nor was it proven, only alleged, his BAC could have been under the legal limit, but regardless the police are responsible for safe transport of the suspect-defendant
He is dead it was preventable, this is bullsh*t he is dead. The WP is responsible once he is in their custody.

Originally Posted by SummerObsession (Post 4132807)

OK, the point I took was based on number of accidents. Using your figure of 450 per year and 5 WP (I only know of two), the 5 divided by 450 = .011111, or 1% which is statistically insignificant.

As far as your 600%, given they spend at least 5000% more time on the water in unusual and inherently dangerous situations than the average boater, that should not be surprising

Originally Posted by CLA (Post 4132812)

How are you getting the 5000% more time on the water figure?

Originally Posted by LoveFastBoats (Post 4132762)

bajaholic
I have read a lot of articles about this incident and so far have not read anything about anyone witnessing him jumping from the WP boat. Can you site your source on this? I would like to read this article...

Originally Posted by SummerObsession (Post 4132817)

The same exact location all the other "facts" on this thread have originated. Thin air.