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pstorti 06-25-2014 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4143575)
The Cummins aren't as bulletproof as the OB's. Diesels don't break down? Bobthebuilder blew one up in his 50 Nortech after 500 hours, my buddy has them in a diesel flybridge cruiser and they have been fair at best with reliability. Also keep in mind the diesels are more way more complex than an old Detroit Diesel from 25 years ago and they don't love high rpms, throttles nailed to the dash for long stretches.

In my opinion, if you want trouble free boating, go OB whenever possible.

Sorry I disagree 100% you can run a diesel at 90% throttle forever, and the commercial rated ones are for continuous 100% throttle, try that with an outboard. I have 600+ hrs on my Yanmars and I have not had one single problem with them, not one, in 4 years. The total maintenance I have done, one valve adjustment, oil changes every 150 hrs, one coolant replacement, one set of zincs and impellers, outdrive gear lube every 50 hrs. Everybody I know with a verado boat has had multiple issues, the Yamahas don't seem to be as bad. My boat runs a best of 58 mph and gets 2 mpg going 50 mph. I have run them throttles pinned to the dash for 30 minutes many times, no issues.

Outboards have also increased in complexity, no way they are more reliable than a diesel. So two people you know have had issues with diesel engines nobody you know has had any problems with an outboard??

Now if you are talking about trouble free because you can get a 7 year warranty and worst case just slap a new one on yes that is easier, and more people can work on them.

Earthwerks 06-25-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4143759)
They also talk about shafts, and yes in that case complete waste of a diesel engine, but that is just boatbuilders being lazy.

That is not true at marinas here in Miami and in the Bahamas, gasoline is $1.00 more per gallon, I'm pretty sure you aren't taking that beast on a trailer to the local gas station. Running costs in $/mile is double with outboards vs diesels. Not saying wasn't a cool idea what you did, just a lot of misinformation being thrown around here.

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Sure, why not!

pstorti 06-25-2014 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Earthwerks (Post 4143783)
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Sure, why not!

LOL ok wow!

Jupiter Sunsation 06-25-2014 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4143769)
Sorry I disagree 100% you can run a diesel at 90% throttle forever, and the commercial rated ones are for continuous 100% throttle, try that with an outboard. I have 600+ hrs on my Yanmars and I have not had one single problem with them, not one, in 4 years. The total maintenance I have done, one valve adjustment, oil changes every 150 hrs, one coolant replacement, one set of zincs and impellers, outdrive gear lube every 50 hrs. Everybody I know with a verado boat has had multiple issues, the Yamahas don't seem to be as bad. My boat runs a best of 58 mph and gets 2 mpg going 50 mph. I have run them throttles pinned to the dash for 30 minutes many times, no issues.

Outboards have also increased in complexity, no way they are more reliable than a diesel. So two people you know have had issues with diesel engines nobody you know has had any problems with an outboard??

Now if you are talking about trouble free because you can get a 7 year warranty and worst case just slap a new one on yes that is easier, and more people can work on them.

I understand your experience but I relayed two that I knew of. Part of that "trouble free" equation is definitely the 7 year warranty and the ease finding a service center. Nobody wants to work on I/O's! :D

mcraymond3 06-30-2014 01:53 PM

We ran the boat this weekend in Norfolk for Power Boating For a Cure! I could not be happier with the performance! It ran 55 mph with 18 people and ten coolers on board. Jumped up on plane (not sure it would have planed with diesels and all those people) was quiet and it sits about a foot higher out of the water with the less weight and buoyancy from bracket. That was another issue, I could only get it off the lift at high tide. With half a tank of fuel and three people, it ran over 60 mph. I didn't even look once to see if oil was being pumped out of the bilge into the marina.

Kelly O 06-30-2014 02:26 PM

All statements above are correct, the boat is a stellar package now that makes one heck of a great place to party. Looks and runs great, congrats on a very successful conversion. I would add that the design/engineering stress test went very well as no motors were left behind as the boat hammered the less than perfect water conditions Saturday.

So who was putting down that sheen in the marina ? LOL

Slug-ger 06-30-2014 03:16 PM

After riding on the 48 this weekend I have not stopped thinking about taking the in-boards out of my 38 Sport Cruiser & going with outboards. Flawless, stealthy, sporty, and performed great in rough water. Could not hear the engines running. I watched the screens in the rough and the RPM's were the same across both screens. Other than the sound of big blocks I wouldn't miss a thing about inboards. Great job to all involved in that change over.

tomtbone1993 06-30-2014 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by mcraymond3 (Post 4145934)
We ran the boat this weekend in Norfolk for Power Boating For a Cure! I could not be happier with the performance! It ran 55 mph with 18 people and ten coolers on board. Jumped up on plane (not sure it would have planed with diesels and all those people) was quiet and it sits about a foot higher out of the water with the less weight and buoyancy from bracket. That was another issue, I could only get it off the lift at high tide. With half a tank of fuel and three people, it ran over 60 mph. I didn't even look once to see if oil was being pumped out of the bilge into the marina.

Congrats on the balls to make such a big conversion. You really went outside the box on this one....sounds like you achieved all your goals. The fact you can use it with tide out is huge.

Bullhead 06-30-2014 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Kelly O (Post 4145951)
All statements above are correct, the boat is a stellar package now that makes one heck of a great place to party. Looks and runs great, congrats on a very successful conversion. I would add that the design/engineering stress test went very well as no motors were left behind as the boat hammered the less than perfect water conditions Saturday.

So who was putting down that sheen in the marina ? LOL

100% agree...not sure who was putting down the sheen but I am pretty sure I saw some folks putting down a little shine :grinser010:

NewToMe260 06-30-2014 06:49 PM

If you were looking to lose weight and get 1200 hp of outboards why didn't you go with two Seven Marine 557 hp outboards?


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