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Rebel_Heart 09-04-2014 05:02 PM

Nortech 340 with triple 300s vs 350s
 
I am looking at a Nortech 340 with the above engine options. I realize the 300s have a 5 year warranty with a 2 year warranty for the 350s. What other considerations should I be looking at? Will there be quite a difference in longevity? Thank you.

NORTECH-ANGLER 09-04-2014 06:53 PM

I had a 14' 34 nortech with triple 300's. Are you considering triple 350's or twin 350's? You realize the 350's take high octane. twin 350's will run about the same has 300's and will cost just about the same. Will get about the same in gas as will but high octane only. Considerable weight difference as well. Are you comparing Mercury to mercury?

Double Rigged 09-04-2014 06:54 PM

My buddy has had a 34 Fountain and now a 38 Fountain with triple 350 verados. The motors have been good. The only knock is the 350 gets a lot of salt on the motor due the cowling intake on the front for the air and superchargers. His motors are on set backs too.
They sound bad a$$ at 6800 rpm redline and are about 6mph faster than the 275's he had before the 350's. Way more acceleration too.
However 5yr warranty is something to strongly consider.

MDGperformance 09-04-2014 07:56 PM

the 350s need 91 octane or they will fail,merc can't figure out how to make the knock circuit work on the these motors if 91 is always available you would have less maitanence and less weight on transom but less warranty

Rebel_Heart 09-04-2014 08:44 PM

Thank you for the replies. Boat would be run on LOTO. Looking at triple 300s vs triple 350s 'Mercury. I have access to 93 octane at all times. I think the 300s will propel boat to 75 while 350s should be 85. Additional upgrade from 300s to 350s is $7,000/each. I don't see too many 350s while 300s are very popular. Worried about what might happen after 2 years of warranty on the 350s.

NASCAT 09-04-2014 08:55 PM

RB-

Tried to PM you but your inbox is maxed out.
I'm headed to Fort Myers next weekend to sea trial a 340 as well as tour the NT factory w/ Mr. Sobo.

I was under the impression that the Merc 350 was a 1yr warranty.
I don't believe I've ever seen a Triple 350 pleasure CC 35' or smaller, mostly fishing boats 38'+ but thats just my personal experience.
Might be a tough resale, lots of HP, cost & no warranty (assuming you keep the boat more than 1yr)

Just my $.02

bill63 09-04-2014 09:05 PM

There might be some surprises at the Miami boat show this year regarding Verado's

Rebel_Heart 09-04-2014 09:06 PM

Just cleaned up inbox. One ran at LOTO last year at 85. A 34 sunsation ran this year at 82. Both with trip 350s. But you are right. Quite a bit more $.

Rebel_Heart 09-04-2014 09:08 PM

Not at ft lauderdale? What changes do you see coming?

bill63 09-04-2014 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Rebel_Heart (Post 4183288)
Not at ft lauderdale? What changes do you see coming?

Long rumor that Miami , Merc will upgrade the 300 to 325 or 350 with warranties but it's just a rumor.

RT930turbo 09-04-2014 09:58 PM

Can you add a 4th 300 :evilb:

NASCAT 09-04-2014 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by bill63 (Post 4183295)
Long rumor that Miami , Merc will upgrade the 300 to 325 or 350 with warranties but it's just a rumor.

There are good rumors & bad rumors, I consider this to be a good rumor, now do you best to make it come to fruition Bill!

NASCAT 09-04-2014 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by Rebel_Heart (Post 4183287)
Just cleaned up inbox. One ran at LOTO last year at 85. A 34 sunsation ran this year at 82. Both with trip 350s. But you are right. Quite a bit more $.

I'm coming out of 100mph + cat so transitioning to a 60mph + CC will be an adjustment but I welcome it as I do the opportunity to enjoy boating. I too get caught up in the facts & figures of Twin 350's vs. Triple 300's, the cost, weight & potential top speeds etc but a fellow boater recently challenged me. He asked if I'd ever been on a CC at 70mph before. My answer was NO to which he stated it's not all that fun especially for those that don't have the protection of a windscreen. IMO he brought up a good point not to mention rethinking the amount of time I'll actually spend at WOT.

It certainly gave me some food for thought!

blingbling 09-04-2014 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by bill63 (Post 4183286)
There might be some surprises at the Miami boat show this year regarding Verado's

Yep!!

blingbling 09-04-2014 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4183326)
I'm coming out of 100mph + cat so transitioning to a 60mph + CC will be an adjustment but I welcome it as I do the opportunity to enjoy boating. I too get caught up in the facts & figures of Twin 350's vs. Triple 300's, the cost, weight & potential top speeds etc but a fellow boater recently challenged me. He asked if I'd ever been on a CC at 70mph before. My answer was NO to which he stated it's not all that fun especially for those that don't have the protection of a windscreen. IMO he brought up a good point not to mention rethinking the amount of time I'll actually spend at WOT.

It certainly gave me some food for thought!

I to did the same thing, came from a 160 mph cat and went to a CC. Best move I made in boating. You will have no problems with the transition if you use it more places then a lake. They are the best all around boat I've been in. I have a 34 Nor Tech with trip 300s, love the boat. Nor builds a hell of a boat. Loaded or not the boat will run 70 to 74. The 350s will never get it to 85 like mentioned above. And until merc un veils this new 325-350 I would do the 300s all day long.

NASCAT 09-04-2014 10:57 PM

Great input, thanks Bling, Bling!

Just out of curiosity, what other CC's did you consider before you decided on a NT 340?

A pic wouldn't hurt either!

Rebel_Heart 09-05-2014 08:49 AM

I looked at Statement and Sunsation. Both seem to be good boats but I quickly was drawn to the fit and finish of the Nortech. Cabin space was not an issue or the Sunsation might have won. I liked the seating much better on the Nortech. Wind seemed like less of an issue at the helm. It seems like there are more reviews and interest around the Nortechs. Hopefully result in better resale. Just a few random thoughts.

Knot 4 Me 09-05-2014 09:01 AM

Nor-Tech also did a great job at the transom for accessing the boat from the dock or the water. Nice flat landing pads on both sides at the stern and you can easily walk from side to side in front of the motors.

bill63 09-05-2014 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by RT930turbo (Post 4183314)
Can you add a 4th 300 :evilb:

Yes you can put quads on a 34 and it has been done. I believe Sportboats in Fort Myers had or has a used 34 gt with quads for sale.

Bostonirish 09-05-2014 09:17 AM

I saw a nortech cc in Nantucket MA with twin 557's wonder what that will run?

Sydwayz 09-05-2014 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Rebel_Heart (Post 4183268)
Thank you for the replies. Boat would be run on LOTO. Looking at triple 300s vs triple 350s 'Mercury. I have access to 93 octane at all times. I think the 300s will propel boat to 75 while 350s should be 85. Additional upgrade from 300s to 350s is $7,000/each. I don't see too many 350s while 300s are very popular. Worried about what might happen after 2 years of warranty on the 350s.

I don't see +150HP adding 10mph.

WARPARTY36 09-05-2014 09:48 AM

I thought the 300 Verados had a 7 year warranty? That's what I was told on mine, unless that's an extended warranty.

NASCAT 09-05-2014 09:50 AM

Here's what I found on the Mercury site.

FourStroke – 2.5 hp to 300 hp (including Verado, Pro FourStroke & Jet outboards) 3 years

Verado 350 SCi
OptiMax 300XS
OptiMax 225-250 Sport XS
Two-year limited warranty for recreational boating
and three-year limited corrosion warranty

Two-year product protection is available

3-year corrosion warranty is standard on all pleasure-craft engines.
Mercury Product Protection is available on select models, for a combined coverage of seven (7) years. Contact Mercury Product Protection at 888-427-5373 to determine eligibility


Not sure what Mercury Product Protection is, their name for an extended warranty??

Knot 4 Me 09-05-2014 10:10 AM

At times Mercury will up the factory warranty as an incentive. Thus, some folks have a 3 year warranty on their 300's and others 5 years. Mentalpause I beleive just missed out on the bump up to 5 years on his 300 Verados.

NASCAT 09-05-2014 10:12 AM

Ah that makes sense & sheds some light on things.
When 1 dealer quoted me on a new boat w/ 300 Verado's I was lead to believe he was sweetening the deal when he offered 5yrs of warranty coverage. In essence based on Knot's comments he basically offered me something I was already entitled to.

bill63 09-05-2014 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4183507)
Ah that makes sense & sheds some light on things.
When 1 dealer quoted me on a new boat w/ 300 Verado's I was lead to believe he was sweetening the deal when he offered 5yrs of warranty coverage. In essence based on Knot's comments he basically offered me something I was already entitled to.

There is a upcharge for the extra 2 years or extra 4 years in most cases. Like someone said sometimes these are free of charge is they are running a promo usually around major shows.

Knot 4 Me 09-05-2014 10:22 AM

It could also be tied to a manufacture too where the builder pays for the upcharge. My current boat was that way new. The manufacture, directly thru Mercury (not some 3rd party plan), gave me 6 years of engine/drive warranty. I beleive Formula Guard provides additional Mercury warranty as well (sorry for the dirty word there, NASCAT).

NASCAT 09-05-2014 10:29 AM

All great dialogue educating the masses!

No worries I'm not a hater just boatless w/ the option to buy what I want so I plan to do so w/ a manufacturer that actually appreciates me & my hard earned $$$.:drink:

blingbling 09-06-2014 11:30 AM

At the Lauderdale show in 2012 every CC I looked at I found a problem. The NT CC imo, not one. The lay out, fishable, and kinda a hot rod CC, very party friendly, it just all worked for me. I actually ordered a 39 and changed to a 34. For the boating I do the 34 worked better for me, and after riding in the 39 and 34 I felt the ride of the 39 was about 15% better in true 3' to 4's and went 34. I have 163 hours on my boat so far and not one issue. I took my 34 From Lauderdale to the Exzumas, 900 miles in two weeks, boated very hard and not one issue. NT makes a tight boat, very protected from the elements especially in the helm seat, beautiful boat, and the performance for a CC is very good.

FYI, I have 0 ties with NT, not a cheer leader in the slightest. But if your in the market for a CC I would highly recommend the NT

Sorry, Im not the brightest with pics and posting, good luck with your purchase.

NASCAT 09-06-2014 12:26 PM

Bling- thanks for sharing your NT buying & ownership experience. Nothing compares or can beat the feedback from someone who actually owns a NT & has boated as extensively as you have. Great 39' vs34' comparative analysis. Probably saved yourself a few $$$

Rebel_Heart 09-06-2014 03:38 PM

When I was considering the 34 vs 39 NT, I was told $90,000 more for the 39 comparably equipped.

Powerquest230 09-06-2014 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Rebel_Heart (Post 4183268)
Thank you for the replies. Boat would be run on LOTO. Looking at triple 300s vs triple 350s 'Mercury. I have access to 93 octane at all times. I think the 300s will propel boat to 75 while 350s should be 85. Additional upgrade from 300s to 350s is $7,000/each. I don't see too many 350s while 300s are very popular. Worried about what might happen after 2 years of warranty on the 350s.

Doesn't a 10mph gain sound optimistic for 150hp?

damdonzi 09-06-2014 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by blingbling (Post 4183340)
I to did the same thing, came from a 160 mph cat and went to a CC. Best move I made in boating. You will have no problems with the transition if you use it more places then a lake. They are the best all around boat I've been in. I have a 34 Nor Tech with trip 300s, love the boat. Nor builds a hell of a boat. Loaded or not the boat will run 70 to 74. The 350s will never get it to 85 like mentioned above. And until merc un veils this new 325-350 I would do the 300s all day long.

I might be confusing you with another member, but did you also have a Donzi ZFXO?

NORTECH-ANGLER 09-06-2014 04:38 PM

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NASCAT 09-06-2014 10:00 PM

NT- Angler

Nice looking 340, I'm sure the new owner is a happy camper.

blingbling 09-07-2014 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by damdonzi (Post 4184062)
I might be confusing you with another member, but did you also have a Donzi ZFXO?

I did, 38 ZFXO, great boat, 525 hours and really no major issues also. Had some great times in that boat. My CC days started in a 32 Concept, went to the Donzi, huge step up, then the 34 NT. The NT is just another step up, IMO.

blingbling 09-07-2014 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Rebel_Heart (Post 4184052)
When I was considering the 34 vs 39 NT, I was told $90,000 more for the 39 comparably equipped.

Not that much. Your profile looks to have the Fountain emblem, all the CCs I rode in I could never get the opportunity to ride in the Fountain 38 CC. This year in Havasu at the shoot out I seen a fountain 38 CC go through the lights at 88mph. I had to take a double take at the board, it must of had some herrings on it.

Rebel_Heart 09-08-2014 06:41 PM

My Fountain is a 35 Executioner Keeping it for the time being to see how much I use it compared to the NT 340.
I was just told that the 300s have 3 years but may have and additional 2 years added but wont know until I take delivery this winter. While the 350s have 2 years. Still trying to decide. Will only be run in fresh water.


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