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Jupiter Sunsation 09-14-2014 12:29 PM

New Cig 50 w/1350's
 
Looks great, not sure on the ghosted Tiger theme though. :D
I would assume from the flag on the bow the boat is going to Turkey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99e-FCS_WHM

Wobble 09-14-2014 12:39 PM

Sweet!

12meter joe 09-14-2014 01:28 PM

Cool video but, wish they mixed in some engine sound in there!

Comanche3Six 09-14-2014 07:34 PM

Love it!

Top Banana 09-14-2014 07:46 PM

LOL I remember that the day of a water test of a new Cigarette was so exciting.

Of course the boats were smaller, 28 and 35 and 40's and the tests always took place in the afternoons when they could be assured the winds would be up. The main part of the test was to make sure the boats could be run in ocean waters and not come apart. That was a real bragging point with other boat makers.

Would be nice to see this boat, with that power and that size, be run in other than dawn calm water conditions. A Cigarette is still a Cigarette and can run where other boats fear to tread....so let's see it run.

Keith Atlanta 09-14-2014 08:28 PM

How fast will a 50 Marauder run with 1350's?

Jupiter Sunsation 09-14-2014 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 4188191)
LOL I remember that the day of a water test of a new Cigarette was so exciting.

Of course the boats were smaller, 28 and 35 and 40's and the tests always took place in the afternoons when they could be assured the winds would be up. The main part of the test was to make sure the boats could be run in ocean waters and not come apart. That was a real bragging point with other boat makers.

Would be nice to see this boat, with that power and that size, be run in other than dawn calm water conditions. A Cigarette is still a Cigarette and can run where other boats fear to tread....so let's see it run.

Not sure as a client I would want that done to my brand new 1mm+ boat..... :D

Jupiter Sunsation 09-14-2014 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4188211)
How fast will a 50 Marauder run with 1350's?

125-130ish.....

seafordguy 09-15-2014 06:33 AM

If I had a million bucks to blow on a boat it would have timeless paint on it that is for sure.

Either way that though that is unadulterated badassery

Sydwayz 09-15-2014 08:24 AM

That tiger is actually pretty awesome. It's eyes follow you from any viewing angle. Even though it's not a Cigarette Tiger, it's pretty badass on the boat. I can't find fault.

SS930 09-15-2014 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4188211)
How fast will a 50 Marauder run with 1350's?


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4188229)
125-130ish.....

A 46 might run that fast with the 1350's, but I dont think a 50 will quite touch 125. There's a 50 with 1350's local to me, his GPS recall shows 122. Sweet boat regardless! :cool:

314joey 09-15-2014 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4188211)
How fast will a 50 Marauder run with 1350's?

As fast as I want to go in a powerboat...........................lmao, not crazy about the graphics, but definitely a beautiful kick-azz boat.

pro27 09-15-2014 09:08 AM

Awesome, Bucket List !!!!!!

On Time 09-15-2014 09:22 AM

Who bought it?? Anyone know?

Jupiter Sunsation 09-15-2014 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by On Time (Post 4188386)
Who bought it?? Anyone know?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZKiMTAewk8

redbud35 09-15-2014 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 4188361)
A 46 might run that fast with the 1350's, but I dont think a 50 will quite touch 125. There's a 50 with 1350's local to me, his GPS recall shows 122. Sweet boat regardless! :cool:

That sounds about right. I've been 122 in a 46/1350 in freshwater. And about the same in the first AMG 50 with 1350's. Biscayne Bay, no engine hatch, no cabin interior yet.

dykstra 09-15-2014 06:04 PM

Way cool boat!!!

Relaxing 09-15-2014 06:16 PM

That things gotta ride NICE

TWIN-SPINS 09-15-2014 06:48 PM

way cool,,,the colors just pop

SummerObsession 09-15-2014 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4188228)
Not sure as a client I would want that done to my brand new 1mm+ boat..... :D

Very good point!

Top Banana 09-15-2014 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4188228)
Not sure as a client I would want that done to my brand new 1mm+ boat..... :D

Actually JS......if I spent over 1m, I would want to be absolutely sure, that my boat could handle any water I took it in .........and the boat had been well tested by factory people who know how to test, to make sure it could.

That is the reason we use water tests in real conditions, to make sure the owner has no surprises.

tomtbone1993 09-15-2014 09:12 PM

Nice resin bucket....but only a American Flag should be on that rig....American Made...you don't see American flags on a Ferrari.....or Jaguar...Bmw ect..ect

Wobble 09-15-2014 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by tomtbone1993 (Post 4188709)
Nice resin bucket....but only a American Flag should be on that rig....American Made...you don't see American flags on a Ferrari.....or Jaguar...Bmw ect..ect

Nice thought, but I doubt there would be any new Cigs to buy without the foreign sales. Boats are supposed to fly the flag of their home nation in any case.

Jupiter Sunsation 09-15-2014 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 4188697)
Actually JS......if I spent over 1m, I would want to be absolutely sure, that my boat could handle any water I took it in .........and the boat had been well tested by factory people who know how to test, to make sure it could.

That is the reason we use water tests in real conditions, to make sure the owner has no surprises.

I can't see Skip behind the wheel in big seas at high speeds!

Also remember, 30 years ago boats were built like tanks, had nothing for options and were lucky to run 60 mph! Seas are the same but the boats certainly aren't!

ICDEDPPL 09-15-2014 11:47 PM

Sweet ride, wonder if still has less cuddy amenities than a 30' Baja. :D


:ban:

ItsPeanut 09-16-2014 05:15 AM

Hers a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99e-FCS_WHM

seafordguy 09-16-2014 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4188775)
Sweet ride, wonder if still has less cuddy amenities than a 30' Baja. :D


:ban:

Haha - a million dollars later and you are still pissing off the swim platform...

SS930 09-16-2014 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 4188697)
Actually JS......if I spent over 1m, I would want to be absolutely sure, that my boat could handle any water I took it in .........and the boat had been well tested by factory people who know how to test, to make sure it could.

Write the check Charlie, I'm sure they will be happy to beat the **** out of your boat on video! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwsCyRol4TA

phragle 09-16-2014 11:41 AM

I have a friend that bought a brand new boat a few years ago. First weekend he had it it was pretty snotty out. He went out and beat the hell out of the thing with the thought that if anything broke, he could get it taken care of promptly by the dealer/mfg. This is Lake Erie, you need to have faith and trust in your boat out here.

Comanche3Six 09-16-2014 11:58 AM

Bigger seas for this 50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWrqefnUrg

Top Banana 09-16-2014 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 4189000)
Write the check Charlie, I'm sure they will be happy to beat the **** out of your boat on video! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwsCyRol4TA

It might be worth it just to make them realize that these are just pieces of fiberglass with auto engines.

A few years back, there was a big fleet that showed up for a poker run in Florida. When the run started, it headed out of the sheltered waters into open ocean waters.......uh oh!

Yup, the first card stop just five boat showed up. Apparently the other boats were not actually boats that could be used in open ocean waters safely....or so their owners thought.

Gentlemen and ladies....these are boats designed to run across open ocean waters safely and bring you and your family home, even if a big storm comes up quickly. They are not the latest wrist watch or handbag or whatever else people buy to impress others.

Please don't anyone tell Brownie, that when he delivered small Donzi's from Miami to Nassau on their own bottoms, those boats were not capable of making the trip......never mind the fact, that he navigated with a small compass not the latest GPS.

SkaterMike82 09-16-2014 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 4189025)

True but notice who's in the helm and was really running the show yrs ago while big daddy just sat in his office playing with remote control cars. Neil Hernandez

SS930 09-16-2014 01:04 PM

Honestly, I suspect everything for these promotional videos (helo, videographer, director, etc) is lined up pretty far in advance. If so, water conditions are mostly up to mother nature at that point.

Regardless, even in that last video they aren't pushing the boat that hard, the props aren't even coming out of the water (which I'm sure takes some decent water or speed to do in a true 50).

Jupiter Sunsation 09-16-2014 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 4189045)
It might be worth it just to make them realize that these are just pieces of fiberglass with auto engines.

A few years back, there was a big fleet that showed up for a poker run in Florida. When the run started, it headed out of the sheltered waters into open ocean waters.......uh oh!

Yup, the first card stop just five boat showed up. Apparently the other boats were not actually boats that could be used in open ocean waters safely....or so their owners thought.

Gentlemen and ladies....these are boats designed to run across open ocean waters safely and bring you and your family home, even if a big storm comes up quickly. They are not the latest wrist watch or handbag or whatever else people buy to impress others.

Please don't anyone tell Brownie, that when he delivered small Donzi's from Miami to Nassau on their own bottoms, those boats were not capable of making the trip......never mind the fact, that he navigated with a small compass not the latest GPS.

Yeah your right but then again these machines need talent behind the wheel also (especially in bigger seas). But then again, if people ran offshore boats offshore then they might have to use their 4X4 trucks/SUVs off road too!

Top Banana 09-16-2014 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4189074)
Yeah your right but then again these machines need talent behind the wheel also (especially in bigger seas). But then again, if people ran offshore boats offshore then they might have to use their 4X4 trucks/SUVs off road too!

LOL........Boy you hit that right on!

BajaFresh 09-16-2014 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4189074)
Yeah your right but then again these machines need talent behind the wheel also (especially in bigger seas). But then again, if people ran offshore boats offshore then they might have to use their 4X4 trucks/SUVs off road too!

Given the recent sad events in this hobby, I would really like to see the focus of attention go from the high speed shoot outs to real off shore running. Not sure how to do that though. Shoot outs can have spectator boats and I guess it's the same reason why off shore racing goes around in circles instead of point to point.

Top Banana 09-16-2014 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by BajaFresh (Post 4189202)
Given the recent sad events in this hobby, I would really like to see the focus of attention go from the high speed shoot outs to real off shore running. Not sure how to do that though. Shoot outs can have spectator boats and I guess it's the same reason why off shore racing goes around in circles instead of point to point.

It is a bit early, but at the memorial that was held for Mike Fiore in Rhode Island last week, a few of us sat around and talked about what we could do to increase the safety factor. It all came back to going back out in the ocean and bringing back navigation and seamanship.

We tried before yes, but we are going to try again. In June we hope to hold a distance race on Long Island sound. This will be a shorter version of the race we hope to hold in September......the Infamous Don Aronow Around Long Island Marathon a full 271 miles.

In June we are framing a race that will help people to use the skills of navigating, but never be too far out of sight of land. The confidence gained in June will encourage more entrants in the September race. There will be a race within in the race with some classes doing much less mileage.

Bottom line .......this stuff was really a lot of fun and helped many people try new ideas and show their talents. We are sure there are more people like that out there today, they just need the venue to show their talents.

If anybody out there likes the idea, let me know. We are trying to make these two races be as easy as possible to enter and compete in. Leave your ego at home and let us show you how to acquire the skills and then use them to really use your boat in all conditions and have a great time.

frickstyle 09-17-2014 07:31 AM

What classes are you thinking of having? Will there be a "pleasure" or "recreational" class. Something for people who don't have "race prepped boats"?

ICDEDPPL 09-17-2014 08:11 AM

271 miles , Seamanship and navigation is great , just bring me back to the 80`s when gas was $.99/gallon

SS930 09-17-2014 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4189468)
271 miles , Seamanship and navigation is great , just bring me back to the 80`s when gas was $.99/gallon

For around LI there's not too much seamanship and navigation required, just hug the shoreline and follow the island. :D

It can be tough finding the people willing to pay for the event, spend the coin on the fuel (for my boat fuel alone would be about $1600-$2200 depending how hard I ran it), plus risk doing significant damage to their stuff. Yes, running hard over a long distance is cool and sounds like a ton of fun, but with a min. 'entry fee' of over $1750 and possibly a hell of a lot more (especially if things go bad), that narrows the field of interested parties significantly. There's only a handful of folks out there with the $ and the desire to run their boat hard for 3+ hours straight.

With that said, I'm interested in chipping on on expenses if someone wants to do it... with their boat. :D


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