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Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4548528)
Just checking as I am following along here, is Got Freedom - Mike C ?
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Very interested in this!
The ultimate test would be get a twin engine bravo boat and install it on one engine but not the other. See how much longer the drive with it lasts. |
Originally Posted by PremierPOWER
(Post 4549460)
Very interested in this!
The ultimate test would be get a twin engine bravo boat and install it on one engine but not the other. See how much longer the drive with it lasts. |
Originally Posted by PremierPOWER
(Post 4549460)
Very interested in this!
The ultimate test would be get a twin engine bravo boat and install it on one engine but not the other. See how much longer the drive with it lasts. |
Originally Posted by Hang Time 27
(Post 4430761)
I don't have big power, or a heavy hull, but love to run the chop here in the Chesapeake Bay. Below are three videos that show the kind of water that has been a drive killer for me over the years. Not much jumping, just waves close together with troughs deep enough to air out the prop for some slip and grab - without the hull lifting - so there is nothing to coordinate your throttle hand with.
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Im in the middle of an overhaul on our 382 and one of the biggest issues I had was blowing through Bravos. Mercury Racing 600s direct coupled to Stelling drive shafts with no coupler left nothing to take the shock, other than the poor Bravo gears. I think we have blown 6 or 8 drives in about 300 hours. Im done with Bravos and my plan is to go with IMCO SCX upper and lowers with the drive guardian. That being said, ive got a bunch of broken bravos in our hanger where we keep the boats in Florida. I might be willing to donate one as a science project for this purpose ha. It would HAVE to be someone who plans to blow it up with no drive guardian and have a drive guardian on the other side.
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Originally Posted by PremierPOWER
(Post 4549612)
Im in the middle of an overhaul on our 382 and one of the biggest issues I had was blowing through Bravos. Mercury Racing 600s direct coupled to Stelling drive shafts with no coupler left nothing to take the shock, other than the poor Bravo gears. I think we have blown 6 or 8 drives in about 300 hours. Im done with Bravos and my plan is to go with IMCO SCX upper and lowers with the drive guardian. That being said, ive got a bunch of broken bravos in our hanger where we keep the boats in Florida. I might be willing to donate one as a science project for this purpose ha. It would HAVE to be someone who plans to blow it up with no drive guardian and have a drive guardian on the other side.
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Originally Posted by PremierPOWER
(Post 4549612)
Im in the middle of an overhaul on our 382 and one of the biggest issues I had was blowing through Bravos. Mercury Racing 600s direct coupled to Stelling drive shafts with no coupler left nothing to take the shock, other than the poor Bravo gears. I think we have blown 6 or 8 drives in about 300 hours. Im done with Bravos and my plan is to go with IMCO SCX upper and lowers with the drive guardian. That being said, ive got a bunch of broken bravos in our hanger where we keep the boats in Florida. I might be willing to donate one as a science project for this purpose ha. It would HAVE to be someone who plans to blow it up with no drive guardian and have a drive guardian on the other side.
PS, I still have a shed full of good nose coned lower TRS cases, full of blown gears, and uppers, mostly with good gears, for those TRS guys that don't want a DG yet, lol..... |
Hello
Is there anyone that broke an XR with mounted driveguardian?? I have only found good infos about DG. At moment i mount in Baja 275 and 662 SCi an new XR Drive out of the box.Read much here and have now ordered an DG for this setup in the hope my XR with tank it to me! regards. Michaelhttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2f291c8a0e.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...96dacc742f.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...12ec34963f.jpg |
get someone that has a twin engine Bravo app - and if they are buying the DG install one only. Maybe OSO members donate some money to the person doing the testing. If we had 100 people and each gave 50 to 100 bucks person that would be 5 K to 10 K. Find a trust worthy person with a twin Bravo app - and both bravo's apples to apples time on them or even new. Just saying
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I built a 850hp blower motor last winter that went in a 29 Warlock World Class. Installed a drive guardian and a XR drive. About his 3rd trip out with the boat, it broke a tooth off an upper gear while getting on plane. Not blaming the DG at all, I think they are a wonderful piece, but the gears can still break. I doubt that he was anywhere close to max torque when the gear broke, therefore the DG could do nothing for him.
On a brighter note, I installed a new XR upper and he beat the snot out of it the rest of the summer with no failures. |
850HP is an amazing nummber for an XR!
I will not do so much.But i think it can handle the 662Ci very well for some years! Michael |
Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4616997)
get someone that has a twin engine Bravo app - and if they are buying the DG install one only. Maybe OSO members donate some money to the person doing the testing. If we had 100 people and each gave 50 to 100 bucks person that would be 5 K to 10 K. Find a trust worthy person with a twin Bravo app - and both bravo's apples to apples time on them or even new. Just saying
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I believe thats why they sponsored 4-5 raceboats. Ours being one of them. Whats the difference between a year with DG versus a year without DG and running one engine with one engine without, BUP? We ran the same schedule, props, engines, competition, ect.
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Originally Posted by TeamSaris
(Post 4617213)
I believe thats why they sponsored 4-5 raceboats. Ours being one of them. Whats the difference between a year with DG versus a year without DG and running one engine with one engine without, BUP? We ran the same schedule, props, engines, competition, ect.
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Originally Posted by Unlimited jd
(Post 4617217)
I’ve only opened up one drive after it had a dg installed, showed the same wear on the gear set as it did before. In this instance it is not extending the drive life, but this particular boat didn’t tend to break parts before. Just wore the gear sets out The harder you run, the more benefit you'll reap from the DG. Sounds good to me :D |
We wouldn't leave the dock without it. Have had tremendous success running the DG on our Bravo set-up in the race boat. No more twisted shafts. No failures of gears.
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Hello
I have mount my engine yesterday and use alignmend tool from merc to adjust! I can pull in and out of the Dg with one finger Today i try to mount an XR new out of the Box but i get no chance to mount. Can pull maybe one inch in the DG and end. I checked 3 time if all is clear with adjustment and found nothing wrong! I then look for the inner diameter of the DG and found out it is nearly 1mm more (put 26,6mm nut in) than the merc tool(25,7mm) to adjust the motor! I am pretty shure that the adjustment from the engine is the problem as with merc tool that is so small its a toygame to adjust the engine right! what way have you adjust your engines with DG?????# Hope i can get fast help to make my boat ready.! Michael |
Originally Posted by Brembofreak
(Post 4625809)
Hello
I have mount my engine yesterday and use alignmend tool from merc to adjust! I can pull in and out of the Dg with one finger Today i try to mount an XR new out of the Box but i get no chance to mount. Can pull maybe one inch in the DG and end. I checked 3 time if all is clear with adjustment and found nothing wrong! I then look for the inner diameter of the DG and found out it is nearly 1mm more (put 26,6mm nut in) than the merc tool(25,7mm) to adjust the motor! I am pretty shure that the adjustment from the engine is the problem as with merc tool that is so small its a toygame to adjust the engine right! what way have you adjust your engines with DG?????# Hope i can get fast help to make my boat ready.! Michael |
Alignment with merc tool was perfect!I can hold with one finger and slide in and out!
But new drive will not fit.No wonder as there is a diffrence from 1mm from tool to DG! Problem is i have no old shaft in fast time here! real a problem for me know!****! Michaelhttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b7c0d06058.png |
You should make a video and post it on you tube and your website of how the drive gaurdian actuates using max torque with a cgi devolped engine drive guardian and drive behind it.. showing use without a drive guardian and make the shaft glow read and show the 3-5x torque peak numbers. Say 2400 ft ibs. and with the same video show the exact illustration with the drive guardian and highlight the shaft in green and show the drive gauardian slip do a close up of it slipping and how it's slipping (illustrate it with a quick blow up(zoom in) and the slipping action) and then zoom back out and show the shaft torque amount was limited to set torque value, say 800ft ibs .. That will allow everyday people to understand what it does.. hope that helps and hope it can be produced! :) I have them on m6 race drives now 😀 with twin 1200's
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Very glad to hear the Good news, I have one on my stage 4 from AADS, (HTM Cat, ILmor 625 hp) With 40 hrs on it. )
Motor was pulled to be re-built to 710 ish, But George said I was good to go, just have to send in DG to get re-set. Just wish they were out THREE stock mere. drives ago. A, M-6 is great but out of my budget. everything can break. Cats love to be out of the water, and the DG has already impressed me! Hopefully its a long term fix to an old problem. |
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