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HORBA 01-03-2015 11:47 AM

Do you know your history?
 
OFFSHORE HISTORY 101

The year is 1967

Name the American races run on these dates:
October 12

October 14

October 21-22

November 3

Who won the Miami to Nassau race that year

What was so unusual about his boat

Who finished second and who was the co driver of that boat

What was the strangest boat in the longest California race that year

Who was the first throttle man in the sport

What race did he start throttling

Who was the driver of the first boat ever to use a throttle man

Who was the most naturally gifted driver this throttle man ever worked with

TGC-32 01-03-2015 05:53 PM

First throttleman was the immortal Bobby Moore, for Billy Wishnick I believe. Not sure of the first race. The naturally gifted driver he is referring to was Snapper Norris. The other answers, I'm not so sure about.

HORBA 01-03-2015 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by TGC-32 (Post 4243747)
First throttleman was the immortal Bobby Moore, for Billy Wishnick I believe. Not sure of the first race. The naturally gifted driver he is referring to was Snapper Norris. The other answers, I'm not so sure about.

Well done.

It is pretty amazing that back then these guys could run that many major races in less than a month. And they were not all in the same ocean.

You are on a roll, keep thinking.

hallj 01-03-2015 08:44 PM

I'll try a few off the top of my head.

Maritime, turbines, Jim, Walt, Hal.?
Magnum, Don, Knocky?
Spooky?

ducktail 01-04-2015 07:27 AM

Allan Brown Mi-Na 1967

HORBA 01-04-2015 08:21 AM

Ducktail got that one right. It was Brownie who won the Miami to Nassau race that year.

Jeff. If you are saying the Turbine boat was the most unusual for the Miami Nassau race, that is incorrect.

Who finished second...you met him at OFF

Spooky is right for the California race that year.

It was a 20 foot Formula that had one big block mounted in the center of the boat, with the driver sitting with his back against the transom and the motor between his legs.

The co-driver was sitting outside the transom on a frame built seat, holding on to a steering wheel that didn't work.

hallj 01-04-2015 08:32 AM

Was it Odell?
Are you thinking the twin on single prop installation as unusual?
Jeff

HORBA 01-04-2015 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by hallj (Post 4243902)
Was it Odell?
Are you thinking the twin on single prop installation as unusual?
Jeff


Second boat in was driven by Odell and co driver was Mel Riggs


Well done now name those races in the fall of 1967....where were they held?

Yes two engines on one shaft and one prop was unusual.....and then to win with that setup made it more so.

hallj 01-04-2015 04:02 PM

I'm not going to cheat by going into a book.
Here goes, hurricane classic, Sam Griffith memorial,
Bahamas 500.
There were also the Delta of Don Shead for '66 and the Maltese Magnum II of John Kenerly for '68 featuring the two engines on one prop.

Jeff

HORBA 01-04-2015 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by hallj (Post 4244105)
I'm not going to cheat by going into a book.
Here goes, hurricane classic, Sam Griffith memorial,
Bahamas 500.
There were also the Delta of Don Shead for '66 and the Maltese Magnum II of John Kenerly for '68 featuring the two engines on one prop.

Jeff

1967

October 12 Miami to Nassau

October 14 Around Nassau Island

October 21 - 22 Long Beach to San Francisco

November 3 Miami to Key West

f_inscreenname 01-04-2015 10:13 PM

You guys should watch this (there is 3 parts).
My boat is at 8:50 :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kALNooZRYfM

Tom A. 01-04-2015 11:29 PM

Didn't they race a houseboat in the Miami-Nassau race once?

hallj 01-05-2015 07:08 AM

The Jacoby Girls in a Drifter Cruz? I think that was the Bahama's 500.
I would guess it happened more than once.

Jeff

HORBA 01-05-2015 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by hallj (Post 4244336)
The Jacoby Girls in a Drifter Cruz? I think that was the Bahama's 500.
I would guess it happened more than once.

Jeff

They were actually mother and daughter. No relation to Jerry Jacoby of later years. In addition to the houseboat, they started racing Prowlers. Those were very quick boats in their day and looked like a small sportsfisherman of today.

ducktail 01-06-2015 01:57 AM

I knew the answer about half by threads here where Brownie and Rich Luhrs discussed these races, the time when "men were real men" because they had to manage real offshore long distance races and someone, I think I remember Charly McCarthy posted videos or links to videos of these races.

As I dont remember everything so very well I also had to look up in the internet what I thought I do remember of the Miami-Nassau races. :whistle:

I know by the yachtpages that the one or two who answer a riddle put the next question, so I start. Here:

Why did it happen that "The last we saw of Don, he and the boat jumped the sea wall and disappeared into the woods." ?
And who went before this happened to one of Don Aronow's backyards with a pistol and shot the lamps dead? The backyard belonged to the facility of which boat brand?
And why did he kill the poor lamps?

f_inscreenname 01-06-2015 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by ducktail (Post 4244842)
I knew the answer about half by threads here where Brownie and Rich Luhrs discussed these races, the time when "men were real men" because they had to manage real offshore long distance races and someone, I think I remember Charly McCarthy posted videos or links to videos of these races.

As I dont remember everything so very well I also had to look up in the internet what I thought I do remember of the Miami-Nassau races. :whistle:

I know by the yachtpages that the one or two who answer a riddle put the next question, so I start. Here:

Why did it happen that "The last we saw of Don, he and the boat jumped the sea wall and disappeared into the woods." ?
And who went before this happened to one of Don Aronows backyards with a pistol and shot the lamps dead? The backyard belonged to the facility of which boat brand?
And why did he kill the poor lamps?

I think someone has been reading my website. Don swamped the Donzi dock (Brownie was running Donzi at the time) "testing" throwing one Donzi out of the water and up on the dock. Brownie then went over and shot the lights out of Don's shop.

ducktail 01-07-2015 01:40 AM

1. Exactly.

2. The Silence of the Lamps

I was not sure whether this story is part of the documentaries/movies about Aronow. If that is only information on your webpage I am glad that I found a question and answers that are not so common.

The facility was at that time used for the Magnum brand, is that right? And Don seemed to be jealous that Allan Brown got that done not only to finish Miami-Nassau but even to win or did the "combat" happen before?

The only left question, did Aronow "disappere in the woods" with a boat that was not his own but that of a customer and he was not aware what he was driving? Do you owner of that very nice webpage supernova19 know that? I don't but that would be interesting.

f_inscreenname 01-07-2015 11:04 AM

Didn't follow Don all that well except for the connection to Brownie being I'm a Nova guy but .....

from SuperNova19.com,
Sometimes having this attitude didn't work out and Don had the scars to prove it. Like one time after Brownie left to run the Donzi shop when it was sold. "Aronow came running down the channel in one of his new Magnum boats doing about 70 mph trailing a huge wake and wearing a big grin. He cut the throttle and threw the wheel over to wash me down while I stood on a dock," Brownie recalls. "The only problem was the throttle was broken and the boat never slowed down. The last we saw of Don, he and the boat jumped the sea wall and disappeared into the woods."

ducktail 01-08-2015 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 4245653)
Didn't follow Don all that well except for the connection to Brownie being I'm a Nova guy but .....

from SuperNova19.com,
Sometimes having this attitude didn't work out and Don had the scars to prove it. Like one time after Brownie left to run the Donzi shop when it was sold. "Aronow came running down the channel in one of his new Magnum boats doing about 70 mph trailing a huge wake and wearing a big grin. He cut the throttle and threw the wheel over to wash me down while I stood on a dock," Brownie recalls. "The only problem was the throttle was broken and the boat never slowed down. The last we saw of Don, he and the boat jumped the sea wall and disappeared into the woods."

Your answer is right, you or one of the other f-screennames in this thread might post the next question and you have won a comic strip:

http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3602#comic

HORBA 01-12-2015 11:11 AM

Two men who represented their country in the Olympics as wrestlers were deeply involved in offshore racing..............Can you name them?

A major engine company for NASCAR, made some very good engines for the offshore boats in the 60's ......name that company!

An offshore driver with many wins, once smuggled rubies out of India.......name that driver!

What major discovery for the world of offshore powerboat racing was discovered at an America's Cup sailboat race?

And who discovered it?

What was the name of the lake in Switzerland that the held a world championship offshore race on?

What was the name of the two crew members in that race that, when the boat spun out, their helmets crashed into each other, one was taken to the hospital and the other shook it off.

What city was Diamond Don from and what was his biggest boat?

LOTOWONTOPGUN 01-12-2015 11:19 AM

What city was Diamond Don from and what was his biggest boat? Could it be Chicago.

Fast Shafts 01-12-2015 11:57 AM

1a) Rocky Aoki was a former wrestler
1b) ?
2)Holman Moody
3) Kevlar
4) Dupont corp.
5) an offshore race on a lake?
6) Don Aronow, Knocky House?
7a) ?
7b) Diamond Don was a 40 Cigarette

HORBA 01-12-2015 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by HORBA (Post 4248233)
Two men who represented their country in the Olympics as wrestlers were deeply involved in offshore racing..............Can you name them?

A major engine company for NASCAR, made some very good engines for the offshore boats in the 60's ......name that company!

An offshore driver with many wins, once smuggled rubies out of India.......name that driver!

What major discovery for the world of offshore powerboat racing was discovered at an America's Cup sailboat race?

And who discovered it?

What was the name of the lake in Switzerland that the held a world championship offshore race on?

What was the name of the two crew members in that race that, when the boat spun out, their helmets crashed into each other, one was taken to the hospital and the other shook it off.

What city was Diamond Don from and what was his biggest boat?


Okay, Rocky Aoki was one of the two.........the other was...........?

Holman and Moody is Corrrect, even Brownie worked for them back then.

Rubies.....India.....no guesses?

Not Kevlar, sorry

Not DuPont, sorry.

Lake in Switzerland........no guesses?

Knocky was the one who shook it off, now who was the other person?

Two people combined for this answer....Chicago was correct s was Cigarette 40 foot.

HORBA 01-12-2015 01:33 PM

As that one is winding down...........

Which famous offshore writer went to Annapolis as a Navy cadet?

He won the famous Miami to Nassau race, but his main business was vacuum cleaners, name and year race was won.

They were tied for first place and racing far from their own countries, so when one of them had engine problems and couldn't compete, the other one went out and rented him a race boat so he could race. Two names and the race they were in.

When Magnum needed a new deck for a new race boat they built Billy Martin, they called a competitor and asked them to make one for him, they did and two different boats had the same deck in that race. Name of other boat company.

He wanted to go offshore racing, but everyone except Aronow, told him he was too old. With a new Aronow boat he won his first race. Driver's name.and age when he started.

Oldest driver to build himself a new race boat for his 75th birthday.

Fast Shafts 01-12-2015 01:52 PM

Oldest driver to build a new raceboat=Bob Nordskog.

HORBA 01-13-2015 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Fast Shafts (Post 4248318)
Oldest driver to build a new raceboat=Bob Nordskog.

Correct!

HORBA 01-13-2015 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by HORBA (Post 4248233)
Two men who represented their country in the Olympics as wrestlers were deeply involved in offshore racing..............Can you name them?

A major engine company for NASCAR, made some very good engines for the offshore boats in the 60's ......name that company!

An offshore driver with many wins, once smuggled rubies out of India.......name that driver!

What major discovery for the world of offshore powerboat racing was discovered at an America's Cup sailboat race?

And who discovered it?

What was the name of the lake in Switzerland that the held a world championship offshore race on?

What was the name of the two crew members in that race that, when the boat spun out, their helmets crashed into each other, one was taken to the hospital and the other shook it off.

What city was Diamond Don from and what was his biggest boat?

ANSWERS

The two Olympic wrestlers....Knocky House USA. and Rocky Aoki Japan

Engine company. Holman - Moody

Ruby smuggler out of India. Sam Griffith

At the 1958 America's Cup race in Newport, RI Dick Bertram spotted his first Ray Hunt designed boat with a deep vee bottom and knew what it could mean to him in the next Miami Nassau race.

Lake Leman in Switzerland. Knocky and Bobby Rautboard, Bobby went to the hospital.

Diamond Don, Chicago and Cigarette 40 feet.

Good job guys considering, not many of you were alive when these things happened.

ducktail 01-13-2015 09:25 AM

Well, I read this here a bit more than a week ago, there was mentioned the age of one racer who was declared to be too old. LOL, young guy for today attitudes, see RF.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...torboat_racers

Now its your turn, dear readers.

HORBA 01-13-2015 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by ducktail (Post 4248816)
Well, I read this here a bit more than a week ago, there was mentioned the age of one racer who was declared to be too old. LOL, young guy for today attitudes, see RF.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...torboat_racers

Now its your turn, dear readers.

That guy was Sandy Satullo who first wanted to race at age 50. Today he would be considered a kid with some of the crews racing here and Europe.


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