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Originally Posted by Flightplan
(Post 4246799)
Has anyone tried this ""Shooter" outfit. I got a PM from him a few days ago. Great thread.
http://www.motorsbyshooter.com/ |
I know not many people on here are out west , but alex haxby is the only builder ive heard of in the Northwest, anyone on here have him do a build?
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Originally Posted by jbraun2828
(Post 4246783)
Dave wessledyk at wesco racing engines in jenison mi. Honest as they get, and a great guy. No bullchit when it comes to Dave
Dave's rebuilding my motors right now. Before I went with him, I considered a half dozen other builders. I could find some level of dirt on every one besides Dave. I dug as hard as I could to find something, but found nothing. The closer I looked, the more happy customers I found. Coincidentally, Dave's shop is literally two miles from my house. I stop in every couple of weeks (he's there 12 hours a day every day) and he's always very honest, answers any question, and is very transparent about where he's at in the process. And the way I look at it, he's actually cheaper than anybody else. I'd rather pay a little more for a pair of engines that will last three times as long! |
Smith Power is doing mine and everything looks awesome. Timeline has slipped as I've added things and they had some trouble with their dyno. But that shop jas been through a lot and I know it will be correct when I receive it.
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Bullet Engines, Kingston, Ontario, Canada. With current exchange rate for Canadian dollars should be economical. Robert Blakely. They are great! He has engined on OSO for sale.
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Originally Posted by lil red
(Post 4246527)
**** storm by page 3. f.
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That depends, my setting have me on page 2 still so there`s still time.
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4247049)
That depends, my setting have me on page 2 still so there`s still time.
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Originally Posted by renbull
(Post 4246991)
Bullet Engines, Kingston, Ontario, Canada. With current exchange rate for Canadian dollars should be economical. Robert Blakely. They are great! He has engined on OSO for sale.
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Joe Irwin at Fast Forward Race Engines! Best engine builder I have ever seen and I have experiance with some of biggest name engine builders out there.
Time Frame well that is a loaded question for any shop. It depends how many engines are in front of you when you drop yours off. Might be a month. Might be 3 months. I have never personally worked with an engine builder that has taken more than 3 months to do my engines. |
Originally Posted by mmb
(Post 4247091)
Joe Irwin at Fast Forward Race Engines! Best engine builder I have ever seen and I have experiance with some of biggest name engine builders out there.
Time Frame well that is a loaded question for any shop. It depends how many engines are in front of you when you drop yours off. Might be a month. Might be 3 months. I have never personally worked with an engine builder that has taken more than 3 months to do my engines. Keeps the positive reps coming, it helps us all. |
Guys I'm trying to have my engine ready for the 2017 season. Does anyone have a recommendation. I'm looking to spent a ton of money on a motor that will last about 30 minutes and have no warranty.
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I can help you out there. Would you like my home address? Can we settle on 20 min w/ 15 min warranty? I'll grab my tools, when do we start?
But seriously, I enjoy reading the positive posts, and good refferals are the best selling points, IMO. |
Rebuilding an old engine vs. starting from scratch shouldn't make much difference. In fact, scratch should be faster as the shop doesn't have to tear down, clean, inspect and fix worn parts as he would if brought an exsisting engine.
Any shop telling customers that it's taking forever because it's a fresh build is blowing smoke up your ass. |
Originally Posted by vintage chromoly
(Post 4247117)
Rebuilding an old engine vs. starting from scratch shouldn't make much difference. In fact, scratch should be faster as the shop doesn't have to tear down, clean, inspect and fix worn parts as he would if brought an exsisting engine.
Any shop telling customers that it's taking forever because it's a fresh build is blowing smoke up your ass. |
I know one guy not to use... Bullet Engines in Kingston Ont.... :greenchainsaw: and I am not the only one on OSO thats mentioned that!!
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Cobra? :party-smiley-004:
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Originally Posted by Full Force
(Post 4246517)
With all the threads I see with horrible reviews on engine builders I am just curious, who are some good solid builders that are not praised enough? we all know Teague, RM, Marine Kinetics, Young and such are great guys, any more that should be praised there should be a post to help these guys that seem to have issues with blowing things up, taking forever to build and such.
What is average timeframe ? I hear so many guys say "I missed 2 seasons waiting" that would NEVER happen to me, I would find a new person or have a lawsuit, to me a timeframe should be in contract if you are building some engines and there may be issues with timeframe. There are 2 sides to every story, so I try to give benefit of the doubt, lots of guys complain it takes forever to get engines done, but leave out that they do not buy parts, or pay in a timely manner, but super quick to bash here on OSO. I use Victory Engines in Cleveland Ohio, small shop, been machining for me for over 20 years with zero issues with work or timeframe, in a pinch Ray has dropped what he was doing to full machine 2 engines for me and did it in a week or so to get me back on the water.... I assemble so that saves time. if you are looking for a local guy in Cleveland Ohio give Ray a call, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...83339334,d.cGU I have used Gellner once for headwork and had zero issues with them so far and had my heads in 2 weeks.... Dean will get backed up and take forever on engine work but he is a good builder and I known him for 20 years also, there has been time issues with him, but again that can be a 2 sided story....so I have no comments there, Dean has ALWAYS taken time to chat engines and help me with advice for years.... So who are some of the good guys here????? what is a "normal" timeframe to expect? Tony and his son do all the work. about 2 month turn around with phone calls and pictures in between if there are any unknowns. Also talks my local mechanic through any issues at any time (weekends and holidays) 2 Sterling 1100s rebuilt twice with him now…under $30,000 total (not each) both times. He's getting them back after 2015 boating season for the 3rd rebuild. |
I have been using R&R Motorsports in Benton IL for over 20 years to do my machine work and couldn't be happier. He has also done a couple af brand new builds for me. Usually takes about a month. Has a engine and chassis dyno. I own a truck repair shop and work on Fedex vans for a living. I see LOTS of blown up 5.9 Cummins and 7.3 Internationals. On more than 1 occasion, he has bored blocks and cut seats for me WHILE I WAITED. because he understands that I have to get the truck back on the road. Great people, father and son do all the work and the cleanest shop I have ever seen.
http://rrmotorsports.net/ |
Hi Joe, did you get your boat fixed?
Are you coming up to Lake Erie / Sandusky this year? I owe you one! |
Originally Posted by Hopper
(Post 4247127)
I know one guy not to use... Bullet Engines in Kingston Ont.... :greenchainsaw: and I am not the only one on OSO thats mentioned that!!
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Originally Posted by renbull
(Post 4247299)
Apologies for the Bullet recommendation. My experience was with a pair of Gen IV 454's that went well over 300 hours with no issue, 10 years ago. With today's technology and HP's in the 600 plus range I can't comment. If others have had more recent experience, as it appears to be, got to go with recent news.
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I think building engines is like any other business, you put out a consistently quality product in a specified timeframe for a specified cost and in my mind you are a "good" builder. The problem, as with any business, is doing all the above and still being able to make a profit/living while dealing with customers who also may be good or bad. It's tough to do all the above, seems like a lot of builders can manage 2 of the 3, or maybe 1 of three.
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Originally Posted by frickstyle
(Post 4247097)
Is that a "rebuild" or a completly different setup, new parts, custom build, etc? I know you had good luck there, and I was very impressed with how close he tuned those when you posted your sheets. I think a big thing is proximity, always a big advantage to go local (within 2-3 hours), when you can. Another big thing is how many times they have done similar setups with like parts.
Keeps the positive reps coming, it helps us all. He is about the same time frame with all new. Only thing that will slow it down is a backorder wait on parts he is trying to get. There is a lot more to having the engines make identical power than just tuning. Making sure every piston is the same depth in the cylinder bore. having all the combustion chambers identical, all of the engine clearances identical etc. etc.. When you have an engine making a lot less power than the other it's because that engine guy didn't check/measure and correct everything to keep the 2 engines identical. Joe Irwin at Fast Forward Race Engines is a perfectionist. There is only one way to do things with him and that is the right way. Joe builds everything from Pleasure Boats to Offshore Race Engines. He also does 3500hp drag race engines as well as Lamborghini and Ferrari Engines and some other high powered import stuff that I can't disclose, we are talking 1700hp street driven stuff that runs for 50,000 miles!!! |
Originally Posted by renbull
(Post 4247299)
Apologies for the Bullet recommendation. My experience was with a pair of Gen IV 454's that went well over 300 hours with no issue, 10 years ago. With today's technology and HP's in the 600 plus range I can't comment. If others have had more recent experience, as it appears to be, got to go with recent news.
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Originally Posted by Hopper
(Post 4247448)
Your the first person I have spoke to on OSO that has had such success..... I am glad it went well for you... I wish my engines went that well
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Originally Posted by renbull
(Post 4246991)
Bullet Engines, Kingston, Ontario, Canada. With current exchange rate for Canadian dollars should be economical. Robert Blakely. They are great! He has engined on OSO for sale.
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Which part of my post would you like explained? The exchange rate comment or my experience with Bullet?
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Why you recommend bullet?
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Brian at Medina Mountain Motors in Creston Ohio has always done my engine work. Been very happy with them to date. Quality work and they stand behind everything they do. They get the job done right and quickly. My time is very valuable so I don't have the luxury of chasing down engine builders for a due date or worry about phone calls worth of excuses why the job isn't done. They have never dissapointed me. And their engines stay together that's the most important .
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I first ran in to Bob from Bullet Engines at the 1000 Islands Poker Run. He had a performance marine engine sitting on a pallet in his display. It was impressive. We talked about it and then he asked if I'd like to hear it run. Well yes! Next thing he turns on a garden house, hooks up a battery and fires the engine. It was awesome! I visited his shop in Kingston and made a deal to rebuild my Gen IV 454's. They turned out great, increased HP, fired immediately when I put them in the boat and ran flawless for years.
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My not go with a proven world champion engine builder. Frank McComas Scorpion Engines
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Originally Posted by jbraun2828
(Post 4246783)
Dave wessledyk at wesco racing engines in jenison mi. Honest as they get, and a great guy. No bullchit when it comes to Dave
Originally Posted by chris21hope
(Post 4246864)
+2
Dave's rebuilding my motors right now. Before I went with him, I considered a half dozen other builders. The closer I looked, the more happy customers I found. And the way I look at it, he's actually cheaper than anybody else. I'd rather pay a little more for a pair of engines that will last three times as long! He not only knows about building reliable marine offshore engines, but he also knows how they need to be rigged, plumbed, and set up in a boat...very inteligent and incredibly gifted and talented pole barn farm boy that doesn't throw curve balls, cannot say enough about Dave in one post. |
Originally Posted by chris21hope
(Post 4246864)
+2....Dave's rebuilding my motors right now.
(I know what you meant, I just could not resist) Let's get together for a beer sometime |
Originally Posted by renbull
(Post 4247557)
I first ran in to Bob from Bullet Engines at the 1000 Islands Poker Run. He had a performance marine engine sitting on a pallet in his display. It was impressive. We talked about it and then he asked if I'd like to hear it run. Well yes! Next thing he turns on a garden house, hooks up a battery and fires the engine. It was awesome! I visited his shop in Kingston and made a deal to rebuild my Gen IV 454's. They turned out great, increased HP, fired immediately when I put them in the boat and ran flawless for years.
Like I said previous you are a lucky one... maybe someone else actually built them..LOL It's nice to see people get what they paid for with their hard earned $$$$ did you click on this link and read it?? http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...nent+for+me%21 |
Originally Posted by Hopper
(Post 4247613)
Like I said previous you are a lucky one... maybe someone else actually built them..LOL It's nice to see people get what they paid for with their hard earned $$$$
did you click on this link and read it?? http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...nent+for+me%21 |
I'd like to post a positive experience with Young Performance Marine. I purchased a boat last winter in OH and drove it down to Eddie in Mt. Juliet, TN . I didn't quite know what I had just purchased and I'm not mechanically inclined to know what exactly was needed to make the boat trouble free. I put a lot of trust in Eddie and he delivered. He was referred by a friend as someone who could look at the whole boat and not just the engine to get everything working together and reliable. I purchased the boat on the reputation of the hull design and price and knew it needed some additional money thrown at it to make it lake ready. To be fair and not a commercial for Young Performance Marine the boat took a little longer than expected to be completed however he delivered exactly what I asked for. I dealt with another high performance engine builder years ago with my previous boat so a bar had been set. Eddie did a great job with the boat. An observation that made the build a lot of fun was the weekly calls to Eddie to see what was going on with boat. Eddie would always give me an update on what had been found on the boat for the week and we would talk about our options and cost of the different directions we could take to try an satisfy the goal of building a reliable, fast, family pleasure boat. Eddie Young gets two thumbs up from me.
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Originally Posted by runafever
(Post 4247549)
Brian at Medina Mountain Motors in Creston Ohio has always done my engine work. Been very happy with them to date. Quality work and they stand behind everything they do. They get the job done right and quickly. My time is very valuable so I don't have the luxury of chasing down engine builders for a due date or worry about phone calls worth of excuses why the job isn't done. They have never dissapointed me. And their engines stay together that's the most important .
RAF |
Originally Posted by runafever
(Post 4247549)
Brian at Medina Mountain Motors in Creston Ohio has always done my engine work. Been very happy with them to date. Quality work and they stand behind everything they do. They get the job done right and quickly. My time is very valuable so I don't have the luxury of chasing down engine builders for a due date or worry about phone calls worth of excuses why the job isn't done. They have never dissapointed me. And their engines stay together that's the most important .
RAF May be a viable option in the future.... |
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