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renbull 01-10-2015 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Hopper (Post 4247127)
I know one guy not to use... Bullet Engines in Kingston Ont.... :greenchainsaw: and I am not the only one on OSO thats mentioned that!!

Apologies for the Bullet recommendation. My experience was with a pair of Gen IV 454's that went well over 300 hours with no issue, 10 years ago. With today's technology and HP's in the 600 plus range I can't comment. If others have had more recent experience, as it appears to be, got to go with recent news.

thirdchildhood 01-10-2015 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by renbull (Post 4247299)
Apologies for the Bullet recommendation. My experience was with a pair of Gen IV 454's that went well over 300 hours with no issue, 10 years ago. With today's technology and HP's in the 600 plus range I can't comment. If others have had more recent experience, as it appears to be, got to go with recent news.

No need to apologize if you had a good experience with them. A lot of companies seem to have gone downhill lately.

hotjava66 01-10-2015 11:40 AM

I think building engines is like any other business, you put out a consistently quality product in a specified timeframe for a specified cost and in my mind you are a "good" builder. The problem, as with any business, is doing all the above and still being able to make a profit/living while dealing with customers who also may be good or bad. It's tough to do all the above, seems like a lot of builders can manage 2 of the 3, or maybe 1 of three.

mmb 01-10-2015 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4247097)
Is that a "rebuild" or a completly different setup, new parts, custom build, etc? I know you had good luck there, and I was very impressed with how close he tuned those when you posted your sheets. I think a big thing is proximity, always a big advantage to go local (within 2-3 hours), when you can. Another big thing is how many times they have done similar setups with like parts.

Keeps the positive reps coming, it helps us all.


He is about the same time frame with all new. Only thing that will slow it down is a backorder wait on parts he is trying to get.

There is a lot more to having the engines make identical power than just tuning. Making sure every piston is the same depth in the cylinder bore. having all the combustion chambers identical, all of the engine clearances identical etc. etc.. When you have an engine making a lot less power than the other it's because that engine guy didn't check/measure and correct everything to keep the 2 engines identical.

Joe Irwin at Fast Forward Race Engines is a perfectionist. There is only one way to do things with him and that is the right way. Joe builds everything from Pleasure Boats to Offshore Race Engines. He also does 3500hp drag race engines as well as Lamborghini and Ferrari Engines and some other high powered import stuff that I can't disclose, we are talking 1700hp street driven stuff that runs for 50,000 miles!!!

Hopper 01-10-2015 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by renbull (Post 4247299)
Apologies for the Bullet recommendation. My experience was with a pair of Gen IV 454's that went well over 300 hours with no issue, 10 years ago. With today's technology and HP's in the 600 plus range I can't comment. If others have had more recent experience, as it appears to be, got to go with recent news.

Your the first person I have spoke to on OSO that has had such success..... I am glad it went well for you... I wish my engines went that well

renbull 01-10-2015 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Hopper (Post 4247448)
Your the first person I have spoke to on OSO that has had such success..... I am glad it went well for you... I wish my engines went that well

I'm interested in the discussion as I approach decisions on my current 500 EFI's. I'm approaching 250 hours and was going to do a top end rebuild using a setup from AETCO. On another thread there's a bit of concern there as well although having met Bill at LOTO, I figured for my purpose his setup was going to work. I will do the work myself. I was going to call Bullet for advice or options as well and I'll be more cautious now given this thread. A few years back we ran the Trent from Orillia to Port Severn. I think it was the last year before significant no wake zones were established. What a blast at 70mph.

stimleck 01-10-2015 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by renbull (Post 4246991)
Bullet Engines, Kingston, Ontario, Canada. With current exchange rate for Canadian dollars should be economical. Robert Blakely. They are great! He has engined on OSO for sale.

Would you mind explaining your rationale for this comment?

renbull 01-10-2015 07:19 PM

Which part of my post would you like explained? The exchange rate comment or my experience with Bullet?

stimleck 01-10-2015 08:03 PM

Why you recommend bullet?

Hopper 01-10-2015 08:15 PM

click on the link below plz

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...nent+for+me%21


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