Originally Posted by Mike A. (Post 4266647)

Gino,

By all means, do your homework. You can start by calling me as I represent Sonic and Tony, who has turned his entire operation into a solid business.

Chuck,

You can call me too. Better yet, have your attorney call me and we can discuss the entire situation, facts and all. I think those conversations may produce better results than ranting on OSO.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Mike A. (Post 4266673)

JS - I have a great relationship with Tony. I put my project on hold because I was just too busy. He and his crew at Sonic have moved on and forward. They have a terrific new base of customers and are on solid ground now.

As for Chuck's situation, OSO is a great thing, but rarely does it work to resolve business issues. People say too many things out of emotion, friends/supporters jump in with only partial information, and a terrible mess is created. I think honest dialogue in a traditional setting works better. I know the OSO attacks have done nothing to help In this instance. Proof is in the pudding, right?

Originally Posted by Mike A. (Post 4266694)

I'll say this one last time and then leave Chuck's friends to their own devices. Lawyers get involved in legitimate business disputes everyday in virtually every country on earth. Most civil disputes are resolved that way. In fact, I would venture to guess that the civil justice system has a much better success rate in settling business disputes than Internet message boards. In fact, I would say that legitimate businessmen with legitimate claims hire attorneys specifically to resolve those claims far more often than they enlist the help of their friends to rampage on the Internet. That tactic has not worked in this case and will not work in this case EVER. So, keep it up and you'll get more of the status quo, which is the definition of insanity, or take my advice and maybe things will change for the better.

Chuck and his lawyer are free to call me anytime.

Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 4266591)

I'm having a little trouble sleeping tonight so I figured I would chime in here a little. Obviously I appreciate the posts from members here who empathize with my situation, thank you! Let me just say a little bit here about both facts and some of my opinions. Fact: Two years ago this month I compounded my problems with Tony Frisina/ Arrow Powerboats by transferring him more money than we had agreed to in the agreement between him, myself and OCM. This was my big mistake, I lost my edge in the negotiating. At this point it was easier to screw me over and sell the boat twice and profit vs doing what we had contracted to do and complete the boat. For those of you that are new here to this situation this was funds paid to Frisina by me on behalf of the dealer, I had completely paid for the boat when I made my initial deal by trading down in boat.
Other Customers Boats:
The first 36 CC with the stepped bottom is currently in litigation in NJ. The boat was never completed ( although it was completely paid for and over a YEAR late) and later as part of the litigation was deemed unseaworthy by a marine construction professional.
The 42 Spectre ( wait lost the franchise), Sonic ( wait, people won't accept it as a Sonic), Frisini Cat was funded and never completed. This boat was years late and also deemed ( this is second hand info not personally told to me) unsafe and a hazard to the occupants. The owner of the vessel had to pay to have the boat completely re rigged at his expense. It is rumored that this was in excess of $50,000. This owner also had to pay for a complete cabin to be made and installed since Frisini never finished the boat. Today the graphics on the boat have been changed to not indicate any branding related to Frisini.
The first 39 CC owner does appear to be happy with his boat as indicated by some of his posts here on OSO.
The first open bow 30 Vendetta completed a cpl years ago ( over a year late) also had to be completely re rigged. The dealer involved had to eat this expense and has never been funded by Frisini for their poor and unacceptable craftsmanship.
Well known professionals and vendors in the marine industry who have been financially screwed by Tony Frisina and Arrow Powerboats:
Jay Pilini, original founder of Spectre Powerboats
Chris Dilling, founder of Grafix EFX
John Cunningham, vast experience in different capacities with many brands still in existence today.
Skater40, businessman and former owner of Spectre molds and branding rights.
Ilmor Marine
PokeRuns America
Tim Sharkey ( rumor not first hand knowledge known by me but hinted to in his posts also)
Oregon Custom Marine
I would strongly caution anyone thinking about doing business with this company to do their due diligence. Pick up the phone and call some well known people in the industry. Tony Frisina and Arrow Powerboats are a joke in the marine industry and not a valued customer by most marine vendors ( cash only).
In closing, I'm embarrassed I ever thought about leaving Nor-Tech. Both Nor-Tech and FastBoats were easy simple transactions and the products they gave me provided me great memories that will last a lifetime, and more importantly allowed me to meet some amazing people in both this sport and industry. Due to Tony Frisina and Arrow Powerboats I will be on the sidelines for quite some time but still enjoy OSO and all the friends I have made here.