800hp through an xr drive
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One note .scx is strong but takes more hp to spin and a 6 needs a tranny . So xr is a cheaper drive that makes your boat run faster . You just have to be friends with a drive guy
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So many good points made here we need a short list to help future viewers weigh the best options. Like power to weight, drive height, and proposed operation conditions.
Clearly there is a few of us who've proven they can hold over 800hp / 1000flbs for hundreds of hours without failure. I'm one, who's also torn whether to risk them on a heavier boat that will likely see some air time. Certainly not my first choice. But is it new #6's, or that cute cottage to park the boat at ?
Clearly there is a few of us who've proven they can hold over 800hp / 1000flbs for hundreds of hours without failure. I'm one, who's also torn whether to risk them on a heavier boat that will likely see some air time. Certainly not my first choice. But is it new #6's, or that cute cottage to park the boat at ?
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What if there was a gearset available that for most applications up to 800 hp/800 ft lbs. that eliminated the"gear" failure of the XR ?? Would you all be interested in buying a set ??? What would you be willing to pay for them ????
And let's not be ridiculous with your answers about the cost.
And let's not be ridiculous with your answers about the cost.
to the OP even with all the unobtanium parts you can throw at it -- 650Ft lb, in a 28 ft boat w a bravo in the ocean will chew it up like a puppy at the morning newspaper.
to the OP- if Smitty builds it you can trust it.
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What about the vertical shafts that like to snap like twigs? And what to do about popping the top cap off the case when the drive walks those new gears up thru the roof? Or splitting the case at the top? Or the busted/twisted prop shafts? Then there are the Bravo props that throw blades like Frisbees! It never ends...
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Our Bravo 30' boat with twin 500 ci NA 750+ HP motors @ 6800 RPM w/650 lbs. has a flat torque curve from 5000-6200 RPM. The torque at 4000 RPM is only 615 lbs. We now have 100 + hours on these drives with virtually no sign of wear. Is the real Bravo killer the big CI motors?...the length/weight of the boat?... or is there more low end torque from 750 HP blower motors? These Bravos do have the best of the best after market parts. Maybe the answer is to not add more CI to make power.
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Here was my "technology" fix for the above issues. Won't save ya if you fly out of the water, but she never broke another shaft in the 300hrs I logged.
Being a diesel, major torque is produced below 2000R. This torque limiting map fixed two issues, stiff shifting and the huge torque spike when turbo lit. Once on plane, torque limit was raised to maximum ECU values. Same technique could be used in a gasser to limit the heavy throttle jockeys...
Being a diesel, major torque is produced below 2000R. This torque limiting map fixed two issues, stiff shifting and the huge torque spike when turbo lit. Once on plane, torque limit was raised to maximum ECU values. Same technique could be used in a gasser to limit the heavy throttle jockeys...
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Our Bravo 30' boat with twin 500 ci NA 750+ HP motors @ 6800 RPM w/650 lbs. has a flat torque curve from 5000-6200 RPM. The torque at 4000 RPM is only 615 lbs. We now have 100 + hours on these drives with virtually no sign of wear. Is the real Bravo killer the big CI motors?...the length/weight of the boat?... or is there more low end torque from 750 HP blower motors? These Bravos do have the best of the best after market parts. Maybe the answer is to not add more CI to make power.
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Hogie,
You are right I am now a lake boater, but the ponds are pretty good size in MI and Nothern OH. Do you generally get some big water in Peoria?
Ben
You are right I am now a lake boater, but the ponds are pretty good size in MI and Nothern OH. Do you generally get some big water in Peoria?
Ben
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This is where they break
In my testing this is where they break. See the circled areas and follow the red line down the inside of the tooth. The larger line is what you get from a poorly meshing gear.
And don't ask me if I have any to sell yet. It is a work in progress...
All the parts in the drive can/will break if you fly the boat, hammer it, basically drive like an idiot.
And don't ask me if I have any to sell yet. It is a work in progress...
All the parts in the drive can/will break if you fly the boat, hammer it, basically drive like an idiot.
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