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No more Ilmor V-10s?
Thank you for your interest in Ilmor. Regarding our V10’s and Indy Drives, we are limiting new production for the time being, but are still offering full service and parts support for product in the operation. We will be focusing heavily on our MV8 engine line where there is more growth opportunity for us under current market conditions.
Regards, Melanie Ricketts Sales & Service Coordinator Ilmor Engineering, Inc. 43939 Plymouth Oaks Blvd. Plymouth, MI 48170 T: 734.456.3600 | F: 734.456.3699 www.ilmor.com |
And they are matching up the Yanmar twin prop outdrive & transom assembly to enter the V-8 engines for sterndrive use or should say trying to. If these engines were not already going into Mastercraft boats for the past 4 years IMO ILmor would not even bother with the marine side.
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Bummer, I think the V-10 is a great platform
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Have to ask and wondering a first post from OP and its about Ilmor not selling the V-10 anymore. Wonder if it is 100% legit. Just asking.
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Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4285875)
Have to ask and wondering a first post from OP and its about Ilmor not selling the V-10 anymore. Wonder if it is 100% legit. Just asking.
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Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4285875)
Have to ask and wondering a first post from OP and its about Ilmor not selling the V-10 anymore. Wonder if it is 100% legit. Just asking.
I just had my two 7-10's rebuilt at Ilmor last fall. Now that you can no longer buy them I wonder if the existing ones will someday be coveted - like the old hemi's of the muscle car era. :) Or not. |
That's too bad. Great pieces.
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I wanted to put a set in my cigarette last year. but it would really kill the resale if the motor is no longer made
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I am not sure they will have the same cashe' as a Hemi , besides they are still doing the hemi on a large scale . I would be concerned that the stopping of production will hurt resale values of boats , not like having a BBC or Mercury blue where parts are seemingly endless . I have heard nothing but good things about the marine performance though.
Just my 2 cents Rick G. |
What a bummer. I thought it was a great platform. They really are great engines to make make big power and torque on pump gas
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Originally Posted by exocet
(Post 4285820)
Thank you for your interest in Ilmor. Regarding our V10’s and Indy Drives, we are limiting new production for the time being, but are still offering full service and parts support for product in the operation. We will be focusing heavily on our MV8 engine line where there is more growth opportunity for us under current market conditions.
Regards, Melanie Ricketts Sales & Service Coordinator Ilmor Engineering, Inc. 43939 Plymouth Oaks Blvd. Plymouth, MI 48170 T: 734.456.3600 | F: 734.456.3699 www.ilmor.com |
Thanks, Ian told me in person that he was retiring I think in June of this year. A younger guy was taking over in his place. Wonder if the this news had anything to do him retiring and hopefully all the employees will still have jobs. A lot of those guys and Jessica are very good people.
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Another big loss for the industry. Our sport is going to hell.
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Ian is retiring April 17th. Ilmor is not going anywhere, it's just the MV10 will be on a limited basis, but they are supporting them fully.
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Not a problem for now, but 10-15yrs out, if your boat has them, you are going to hate finding parts or getting them fixed. If they had sold a ton of them it would not matter as the aftermarket would pick up the ball, but since they only sold a small number it's not going to be pleasant down the road. Just ask anyone with OMC stern drives what the last 20yrs has been like. In many places now, you can't even find a mechanic that has the manuals or knows how to fix them.
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[QUO TE=al tamate;4286105]Not a problem for now, but 10-15yrs out, if your boat has them, you are going to hate finding parts or getting them fixed. If they had sold a ton of them it would not matter as the aftermarket would pick up the ball, but since they only sold a small number it's not going to be pleasant down the road. Just ask anyone with OMC stern drives what the last 20yrs has been like. In many places now, you can't even find a mechanic that has the manuals or knows how to fix them.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, there's a big aftermarket For viper parts in a lot of viper Engines, all different gens.... |
It's clear the mv-10 isn't a high production motor as is the case for any engine 600 cubes and up....anything with big HP is NOT getting parts or fixed in a day by any Merc mechanic down the road...specialty build engine houses are not going away and Ilmor has their foot firmly planted in the market from what I can gather......I'm actually saying most of this for my benefit as I've just "invested" in a pair of these and love to gamble so I guess we'll see...
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I'm beginning to wonder if boats are as good an investment as I was led to believe?
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
(Post 4286217)
I'm beginning to wonder if boats are as good an investment as I was led to believe?
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Originally Posted by Awash
(Post 4286249)
Now that is funny, on the other hand if your serious find the person that told you that and punch em right in the gut.
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Originally Posted by exocet
(Post 4285820)
Thank you for your interest in Ilmor. Regarding our V10’s and Indy Drives, we are limiting new production for the time being, but are still offering full service and parts support for product in the operation. We will be focusing heavily on our MV8 engine line where there is more growth opportunity for us under current market conditions.
Regards, Melanie Ricketts Sales & Service Coordinator Ilmor Engineering, Inc. 43939 Plymouth Oaks Blvd. Plymouth, MI 48170 T: 734.456.3600 | F: 734.456.3699 www.ilmor.com The MV8-570 calls for 91 octane minimum. Would like to see a slightly lower HP version that can safely run on 89 octane. Maybe a MV8-530(?) |
Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4285875)
Have to ask and wondering a first post from OP and its about Ilmor not selling the V-10 anymore. Wonder if it is 100% legit. Just asking.
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Originally Posted by 4mulafastech
(Post 4286271)
Does anyone know if this includes developing a high performance stern drive that matches up to the MV8-570? (not twin prop...)
The MV8-570 calls for 91 octane minimum. Would like to see a slightly lower HP version that can safely run on 89 octane. Maybe a MV8-530(?) |
Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4285989)
Thanks, Ian told me in person that he was retiring I think in June of this year. A younger guy was taking over in his place. Wonder if the this news had anything to do him retiring and hopefully all the employees will still have jobs. A lot of those guys and Jessica are very good people.
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Originally Posted by NASCAT
(Post 4286275)
They had been working on that for a few years w/ a 3rd party & I think the 3rd party let them down so I believe the Yanmar is the solution to all the V-8 stuff other than the 570 of which I don't believe there are many in circulation by comparison to their other V-8 offerings.
One other comment. The 91 octane requirement probably isn't helping the sales growth of the 570. |
I tried to get Formula to build me a 310FX5 w/ a pr of 570's & they said NO GO too fast for their liking, so that's when I was more involved w/ what was going on w/ their own drive development.
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
(Post 4286217)
I'm beginning to wonder if boats are as good an investment as I was led to believe?
Please don't put any pretty women or Jack Daniels in your boat!....... :lolhit: |
Originally Posted by Tom A.
(Post 4286454)
I don't know Bob, you buy a ZRC..... Donzi stops building them. You put Ilmors in it.... they stop making them.
Please don't put any pretty women or Jack Daniels in your boat!....... :lolhit: |
Originally Posted by Tom A.
(Post 4286454)
I don't know Bob, you buy a ZRC..... Donzi stops building them. You put Ilmors in it.... they stop making them.
Please don't put any pretty women or Jack Daniels in your boat!....... :lolhit: |
Originally Posted by Marginmn
(Post 4286524)
Deal Tom, but it might be too late for Arneson. :)
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Originally Posted by Rik
(Post 4286700)
Na, it will take more than your bad luck for that... Besides, your bad luck tank has to be running in empty by now.. :D
On the plus side, Jerry has it all back together and did some testing Monday. The drive worked fine. The water pick up needs some work. :) |
Just got home from dropping our indy drives off. they have a hand full of v10's in production. According to Ian, they are focusing on the v8 platform.(which they have sold 1000's) they will continue to build v10's/indy's they are wanting to do production runs 5-10 at a time not 1's.
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
(Post 4286754)
I'm gonna be optimistic and declare that my drive housing getting cracked because a bridge was out during a freak blizzard in North Carolina was the bottom of the barrel for my luck with this boat. :pray:
On the plus side, Jerry has it all back together and did some testing Monday. The drive worked fine. The water pick up needs some work. :) Man that is a good looking rig Love the power train set-up!! |
I hate that Ilmor is reducing efforts in the high performance area. They have the talent to produce some innovative products for us. Hopefully they can get back in some time with some higher HP engines and keep offering more drive options.
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Competition is usually good for the consumer. I hope the someone keeps the V-10s and Indys in production. Hopefully the economy will improve in a couple years. Ilmor was doing everything right too by building a reputation of quality and reliability before rushing into more powerful engine builds.
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That is unfortunate. I have a set in my boat and they are awesome.
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Originally Posted by Dean Ferry
(Post 4286134)
I don't know, there's a big aftermarket For viper parts in a lot of viper Engines, all different gens....
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Ilmor just rebuilt my 710's like new. They are their for you if you need them.
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Originally Posted by altamate
(Post 4288972)
Getting a carb for a GM 5.7 in your OMC is not the problem, even getting the shift cables, gears, bearings and gaskets may be difficult but possible most of the time. However try to get the lower case or any other aluminum casting that is older OMC and good luck. I think there are some other Merc. type drives that also fall into this, like a Blackhawk drive. You can get internal parts but don't destroy the case/housing/brackets or you're done.
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