Formula 400 SS
 

anyone have one or been on one. pros, cons? i have always liked the looks of them on the water and the whole idea behind them. been looking at them for the last month now for a day boat for mrs baron, my girls and mrs barons dogs and friends. lol. also how are they on the drives?

thanks
todd

What's up Tood, my good friend is buying a 40ss right now. We're going to pick it up April 30th in Detroit. His has 525's and is suppose to run 62 mph. I don't think there's any negatives to these boats, pretty cool looking cruiser. Let me know if you want to come check it out when he gets it home.

hi jason hope all is well. would love to check it out. thanks

todd

Todd, you coming over to the cruiser side? I really enjoy mine. There is a 370ss next to my cruiser (it might be a 400ss) that has Volvo Penta IPS drives. Looks pretty Bas A$$.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4SNk9yGc0Q

Sweet boats, they look good to me 2. Maybe someday, uncle has a 37, other friends have them 2!! Good luck, hope all is well.

Great boats, been on one with 502s, ran very well and handles surprisingly nimble for its size. The cabin layouts are very user friendly. The boat I was on is now up for sale at Ivancic Marine in Cleveland, check it out it is extra clean and all maintenance up to date.

hi j. i didn't know you had a cruiser also, good for you. sheri hates the cig more each year, so after all these years of hot rods it is time to throw her a bone. lol. she is worth it.hope to see you soon.

todd

hi steve. dog gone i have not seen you in for ever. we are doing good thanks, hope you guys as well. if around gh this summer look us up down on the beach.we are across from the fisherman's lot.

todd

hmm, i wonder if it is the one we looked at today. do you know the year? i like the size of the cockpit on them, we would not sleep on it. but again you never know?? btw cool / fun town, beat me up pretty good.

thanks
todd

Going on the 3rd summer. Nothing spectacular, but it is nice to just head to the marina with everything already there. Beers cold in the fridge, liquor is in its carousel, AC going, full kitchen, bathroom and a flat screen. If things get to carried away in GH I have a place to crash. It's a great party barge.

Hope to see you out soon, I just fired up the Scarab and ready to go.

That's a nice grand sport. My dad had a San tropez. They are big and relatively cheap. I loved that it drafted less than outdrive boats and I could sneak into shallow coves and surprise them when I showed up in there.

SS are cool. They are much faster than I initially thought they would be.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...wellcraft2.jpg

love my 370, very nice boat. have 10 years and 550 hours. Opened her up last wknd and ran 60.6mph full of fuel.

great looking boat. is that at keenan? looks like tony hustler in front of you? we where just there today.

todd

wow nice numbers. looking forward to something new.

todd

we generally go out with a crew of 6 or more for the day and have plenty of space and very comfortable ride

I have a 2012 400ss with 8.2's and Axius. It's the wife's boat. Lol
They are, as mentioned above a great boat with lots of room both in the cockpit and cabin, all the amenities I would ever need for what I do with it, and so far no issues with drives or really anything else.
It runs 50 or so with 8.2's but has a nice cruise around 40.
If it were up to me it would have 1100's and sixes on it, but thankfully it's not up to me!

i just spent the weekend working a boat show on loto and Marine Concepts has a 2004, with 400 hrs on 496's very clean boat, give them a call if interested

1-877-601-boat...... tell them Shane sent you

We where looking at 400ss and have to say they are on the short list for our next boat. I hope that we can go to a Searay 48 to 50 footer because we have a 40ft now, but the wallet might scream too much. We love our 405, just would like something a bit wider so it might be a few years before we make the leap.

SS are pretty narrow compared to sea rays. 48-50 sea rays would dwarf a 400s in every dimension.

That's my point, we have a 405 now and when I want to make a change I would like to go bigger. The 400ss would make a nice upgrade but would still have the same length overall. The 400 ss would be a bit wider I think the beam is 11ft 4 inches.

Yeah that's Keenan, I am now on D-dock with Tony just 2 slips up. Stop by anytime for a cold one.

I love the boat, almost bought one several years ago (hard top). As for drives, a fellow in our club has one (soft top, B3, gas - not sure which but they are stock) and replaced at least one drive per year while under warranty, now one about every other year (he decided the hole shot was not worth the expense). It's a lot of boat to move with an outrdive, but much of that pepends more on the driver than the drive. You should also consider aftermarket props - the cavatation destroyed his but there is an aftermarket maker out there that supposedly solved the problem. If I were to buy one, it would definitely be diesel, but that's me.

Our you can buy my older 39 mainship on ebay and keep the go fast! Sorry, had to plug my old boat.

i will have to check on the props and cavatation problem, first i heard of that. i didn't know they had diesels in some of them, would that be the newer ones?

thanks
todd

the go fast is not going anywhere. that was not part of the deal.

todd

https://loz.craigslist.org/bod/4970637126.html

Here is one with diesels

Since you're keeping the gun.
If you don't need to go far and fast on it I would look for something wider and comfier with Vdrives.

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Take a ride in a Fat Bottom 43 Portifino Wellcraft-

Love ours. We have pretty much redone everything. Wont get there fast but Will have Fun with 10 or more of your best friends!

Or just the Wife like us most of the time. Did I mention its HER Boat lol. Had to get Go Slow before I could Go Fast. The things we do for the Ladies :)

any ideas what drives they use on the diesels? still bravo 3's?

todd

looked at a hand full of sea rays and express cruisers and you almost need to get into a min of 42' - 44' to get a big cockpit, but there is a ton of cabin in those, and we will not be using it as a weekender or cottage just a day boat. i do have a offer in on a 400ss now, and sheri (mrs baron) really likes them. so i think we are going for it. if we really like the cruiser thing maybe get a bigger one down the road. but we have a cottage that sure has a lot more room to party and sleep at after a day of boating, and a great view of lake michigan and the channel. thanks for all the advise and please keep it coming.

todd

If it's a Volvo setup it will have Volvo drives as well. That's way too much money for the one in the link. They even made a few with ilmor power and drives, that would be sweet

[QUOTE=baronmarine;4294610]any ideas what drives they use on the diesels? still bravo 3's?

The diesels all will be Volvo's drives and motors both. We had a 2004 with 500efi's and loved the boat if I were to do it again and wasn't focused on speed alone I would go deisel. The diesel will get you a higher cruise speed with better fuel economy.

There's one being built right now with Duramax's.

Sweet! Be interested to see how it runs. What drives?

+1 ^^^^^

How about a 48 Sunseeker , she's already here in G H?

A 40ss is a boat all different. It's smaller an runs great. I'm still looking. Artie. I think it makes a nice day boat an works if you don't make it home for the next day.

hi steve

if that is craigs, sheri looked at it. we have a deal in the works on a 400. doing a sea trial next friday, which i'm sure will go well.

todd

I had a 2006 400SS that i just sold, it had 525's and we put 400hrs on it, had it for 7 yrs. since it lived in the salt we had it bottom painted.
i broke one drive the entire time i had it and it may have had something to do with running the 80 miles of open ocean from Catalina to Channel islands at 55mph in rough water and getting air a lot :)
Had a couple sets of headers which was a cmi issue not Formula. other than that its a great boat. even though it is trailerable that was a pain in the ass.
I prefer the Cigarette over the Formula the wife like the Formula better.
But even with the rough water we have here the Formula held up amazing well. not a single stress crack. no corrosion issues just a great boat.