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Old 05-15-2015 | 05:53 PM
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[QUOTEoops got bad warning to back off . mod?

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Old 05-15-2015 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by klaatutooyou
That is unfair to those who choose to go to either event .
Many make their choice by availability of rooms .
your,e decision to monopolize rooms takes money away from legitimate buiseness,s .And fans from being able to attend that event .
They IN GOOD faith are holding you,re room,S .not knowing you have no intention of keeping youre word to show up to at least one of them .
I do not find it honorable . just me I guess
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Old 05-15-2015 | 07:05 PM
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I have nothing to add to my commentary, but I am kind of mystified at those who object to any new organization as a "splinter" group.

How do you think SBI started?

No dog in the fight—clearly, Jason Johnson and I put in a lot of time and effort covering the SBI circuit and will continue that coverage throughout the 2015 and the foreseeable future—just a point regarding "history." In SBI's case, the split turned out to be successful. But there are those, especially in in the loyal APBA contingent, who would argue that the split divided the sport. If we're going to talk history, we should have some knowledge of it.
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Old 05-15-2015 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by klaatutooyou
[QUOTEoops got bad warning to back off . mod?
Wasn't me.

As for your comments: I ALWAYS offer my room reservations up to OSO members before I ever cancel. Also, since my rooms are at the HYATT, at both pit locations, I am sure they will not lose any revenue. My guess is that if I cancel they will resell It for far more than my advanced rate.

On top of that the hotels have been earning interest on my prepaid rate for about 7-8 months at this time.
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Old 05-16-2015 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Cash Bar
Wasn't me.

As for your comments: I ALWAYS offer my room reservations up to OSO members before I ever cancel. Also, since my rooms are at the HYATT, at both pit locations, I am sure they will not lose any revenue. My guess is that if I cancel they will resell It for far more than my advanced rate.

On top of that the hotels have been earning interest on my prepaid rate for about 7-8 months at this time.
Not to mention that just about every hotel on the planet has a thing called a "cancellation policy," usually from 48 to 72 hours. If the hotel isn't worried, about it, I'm not sure why anyone else should be.
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Old 05-16-2015 | 10:05 AM
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Race promoters have been dealing with these problems for many years. They have to chose a side be it SBI or ABPA then jump thru all the hoops each requires to have a race. Then there are the racers how without them you have nothing. So again the race producer has to cater to them with prize money, discounted rooms, parties with band and food. Then you have TV and Radio spots to promote getting people to come watch. All this is done by a small group of people who are racers or love racing. The out of pocket expenses for these people is enormous. So when a group with money comes in a says we can fully fund you if you do this or that these promoters jump on the wagon and go thinking this will be the greatest thing ever. Been there done that. It costs 10's of thousands of dollars just to get a race off the ground. Then another 10's of thousands to pull it off let alone a whole series.

The SBI and APBA group get paid to do this. The small groups like OPA and what used to be the GLSCS did it out of their own pockets to enjoy there sport always keeping the interest of the racers first and the money second. I know this because I was President of the GLSCS for 3 years and on the board for 10. I haven't been involved in any offshore racing for almost 8 years now and sorely miss it. But I know there is only one way to be involved. As a racer only or as an official which is almost as expensive as racing. I wish everyone the best. and to those who are throwing stones at promoters or races, don't unless you walk a mile in there shoes.
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Old 05-16-2015 | 10:07 AM
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Randy is a stand up guy who supports his SVL class and the sport. Out of his own pocket if I'm correct.

Originally Posted by TYPHOON
Am I missing something? Last I was told they are still putting on a race in Sarasota with large purse to be paid out at the site. What is wrong with that?
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Old 05-16-2015 | 11:49 AM
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You have been out of it for 8 years? Couple things have changed. APBA has almost nothing to do with offshore racing except for riding on OPA's coat tails. OPA is NOT a small group. It is one of only two credible race organizations. The only thing that haven't changed is Randy is still only out for himself and not the sport.
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Old 05-16-2015 | 12:36 PM
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You have been out of it for 8 years? Couple things have changed. APBA has almost nothing to do with offshore racing except for riding on OPA's coat tails. OPA is NOT a small group. It is one of only two credible race organizations. The only thing that haven't changed is Randy is still only out for himself and not the sport.
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Old 05-16-2015 | 02:36 PM
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Day one you were sucking up to me like you do with all the new racers. Explaining to me how Steve and George have no kids and lots of money and we need to stick together to do what's best for us. That's when I realized what you were about. I complain when I don't get what I'm entitled to, like being included on class meetings and votes. You kept Steve, Steve and my self out of a class vote because you didn't want the new racers to hear what we had to say because it wasn't in your best interest. I also complain when I'm told I can run with SVL only to be told on race morning that I cant. That's because you were a little ***** and got together with your club members and complained to the ORG. Same thing you did to George and Steve years ago. I may be jealous of some racers but definitely not you.
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