Another Oil Question
05-13-2015, 10:20 AM
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Delvac is a diesel oil with high detergent properties, it may be more prone to foaming at gas engine rpms, that said I pretty much run rotella 15/40 in all my older stock engines that get run infrequently.
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05-13-2015, 01:42 PM
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Fully backwards compatible, Mobil Delvac 1300 Super will also deliver the same exceptional performance in older conventional engines. As a result, they exceed the API CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS and CH-4 service categories as well as key Original Equipment Manufacture requirements for 2007 engines. Mobil Delvac 1300 Super is the result of extensive cooperative development work with major OEMs and is recommended for use in a wide range of heavy duty applications and operating environments found in the trucking, mining, construction, quarrying, and agricultural industries. These products will provide outstanding protection in the most demanding diesel engines of Caterpillar, Cummins, Detroit Diesel, Mack, Mercedes Benz, Navistar, Volvo, and others. Mobil Delvac 1300 Super also meets the API SM specification for gasoline engines and mixed fleets.
05-13-2015, 01:48 PM
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Advisory: Check owner's manual to assure appropriate service category and viscosity grade. API SM engine oil is backwards compatible. As such, it can be safely used in older vehicles. It should be noted, however, that the use of API SM engine oil in some older "muscle cars" with flat tappet camshafts, has been linked to premature wear. As such, check owner's manual to assure appropriate service category and viscosity grade.
With regards to "API SM," The American Petroleum Institute (API) Says:
Status: Current
Service: For all automotive engines presently in use. Introduced November 30, 2004. SM oils are designed to provide improved oxidation resistance, improved deposit protection, better wear protection, and better low-temperature performance over the life of the oil. Some SM oils may also meet the latest ILSAC specification and/or qualify as Energy Conserving.
Advisory: Check owner's manual to assure appropriate service category and viscosity grade. API SM engine oil is backwards compatible. As such, it can be safely used in older vehicles. It should be noted, however, that the use of API SM engine oil in some older "muscle cars" with flat tappet camshafts, has been linked to premature wear. As such, check owner's manual to assure appropriate service category and viscosity grade.
With regards to "API SM," The American Petroleum Institute (API) Says:
Status: Current
Service: For all automotive engines presently in use. Introduced November 30, 2004. SM oils are designed to provide improved oxidation resistance, improved deposit protection, better wear protection, and better low-temperature performance over the life of the oil. Some SM oils may also meet the latest ILSAC specification and/or qualify as Energy Conserving.
05-13-2015, 02:04 PM
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Main consensus but not held in stone is you are looking for NOT the reduced EPA mandated anti wear of ZINC and PHOS.
Main consensus most of the time lists 1300 ppm of Zinc / ZDDP and 1300 ppm of phos or very close to these anti wear numbers - to be used for FT and higher HP apps - high load apps . Yes some will agree with about 100 or 200 ppm less but overall 1300 ppm seems to be the figure talked about.
I know Chevron 15w 40 400 LE is very close to this plus they have very good additive technology. VR1 is good oil to.
Driven Oil has a lot great info posted and I would recommend their products. They use some the newer Chevron relate additive technology. Just saying. I have good luck with Mystik for non high performance apps. FWIW.
Current car oils off the shelf are .800 ppm of ZINC and PHOS. Do not run these in your boats. I had a not so smart run 5 w -20 in his boat for the summer one year and his thoughts was that his Ford 150 - 5.4L Triton gas engine used it, so had to be good for his boat to. Low oil pressure warning horn went off one day after a long run. Short story was - I Cut open the oil filter and there was bearing material in between the pleats and very low oil pressure readings on top off. Just saying.
Main consensus most of the time lists 1300 ppm of Zinc / ZDDP and 1300 ppm of phos or very close to these anti wear numbers - to be used for FT and higher HP apps - high load apps . Yes some will agree with about 100 or 200 ppm less but overall 1300 ppm seems to be the figure talked about.
I know Chevron 15w 40 400 LE is very close to this plus they have very good additive technology. VR1 is good oil to.
Driven Oil has a lot great info posted and I would recommend their products. They use some the newer Chevron relate additive technology. Just saying. I have good luck with Mystik for non high performance apps. FWIW.
Current car oils off the shelf are .800 ppm of ZINC and PHOS. Do not run these in your boats. I had a not so smart run 5 w -20 in his boat for the summer one year and his thoughts was that his Ford 150 - 5.4L Triton gas engine used it, so had to be good for his boat to. Low oil pressure warning horn went off one day after a long run. Short story was - I Cut open the oil filter and there was bearing material in between the pleats and very low oil pressure readings on top off. Just saying.
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05-13-2015, 03:50 PM
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My builder said any oil as long as it says off road only. Because the wear additives have been removed from most oils used in today's cars and trucks. I was a firm believer in Mobile One full synthetic 15-50 and my bottom end was in good condition but he insist 15-50 off road oil. I still have not decided on the brand.
05-13-2015, 08:03 PM
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My builder said any oil as long as it says off road only. Because the wear additives have been removed from most oils used in today's cars and trucks. I was a firm believer in Mobile One full synthetic 15-50 and my bottom end was in good condition but he insist 15-50 off road oil. I still have not decided on the brand.
