Cole2534

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That's simply cost cutting, no engineers involved.

davidwademarine

This is the root of most the complaints in this thread so far. Nothing the engineers did, simply the bean counters that are worried about saving $.000001 over several thousand units.

The location of the water pump on the bottom of the engine is due to physics. Mercury didn't put the pump down there just to piss you off. You should be pissed at your boat manufacturer since they build the boat around the engine, not vice versa.

Quinlan

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I think there are a lot more Engineers then Bean Counters on this thread.

rak rua

Had some electrical work done on a Sea Ray by the local marine electronics company some years ago and as the guy was crawling around on his back in the transverse bunk with the headlining pulled out and his arm stretching upward around a couple of 90 degree bends trying to get to a relay, I asked him if there's ever been a boat that is easy to work on and he said........ "Yes, but it's called a house!"

RR

apollard

Every engineer is a bean counter - engineering scope includes budget. Budget to build project = (Market Sales Price) - (company Porfit Margin)

Even the high end engines and drives (arneson, custom engine builders) follow the above rule. The difference in those cases is the market sales price.

Cole2534

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I'm here to chew on some crow.

Was reading up on the wiring of the safety systems in the 502 Mag and the drive oil sensor, and the oil pressure sensor are wired normally open. That's plain stupid. Those sensors should be configured normally closed (NC) so that ANY failure triggers an alarm, not just their sense points. For instance, if one's oil pressure sensor switch were to break off in use, not only would the sensor not detect the failure it would actually lead to the conditions it's trying to prevent - oil starvation.

All warning systems should be wired NC, and safety systems should be wired for both conditions where possible. That would be known as fail safe.

EDIT - safety lanyard is wired NO as well. Dumb.

caseyh

agree the TRS is actually stronger

Kurt Hamilton

The reason its done that way is to prevent a situation (wherever possible) where you may be near the rocky coast or on a dangerous bar crossing or something like that and your say oil pressure sensor breaks off. If it was NC youd be mostly f#$&ed. Washed on the rocks or turned over on the bar etc. At least NO you have a chance of driving to a place of safety. Yes, chances of doing real damage are increased but life is seen as more important (well, to some of us. lol). Ever noticed guardian will NEVER shut down the engine, just limit power output to try and prevent catastrophic damage, this is for that exact reason.

Cole2534

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Good point on the oil.

Cory H

My biggest gripe is the maintenance of the gimbal ring, upper and lower swivel pins. Not a big deal once you install the JR Marine kit, but the transom assy should have been designed with maintenance in mind. In silty environments, such as here on the Missouri River, those lower swivel pins wear out pretty quick and the dealers really take advantage of those customers by insisting engines be pulled to remove transom assy for repair.