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boomer 06-10-2015 12:13 PM

Scarab Molds
 
Anybody want to revive a line

http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/bod/5037392486.html

JRider 06-10-2015 12:19 PM

Way cool, I wonder the price of the big molds?

glassdave 06-10-2015 12:26 PM

cool, gonna need a bit of a re fresh tho . . . . no UV inhibitors in tooling gel and that Fla sun ain nothin nice :cool:

CIG3 06-10-2015 12:51 PM

33 AVS would be a great mold to bring back to life

erik1976 06-10-2015 01:33 PM

Dave, i'll buy the HST mold if you'll make me one.

glassdave 06-10-2015 01:56 PM

I'm in! lol . . . . . which one is the HST :D . . . . tell ya what tho the 33AVS would be a good one to have. Wonder what they want for that mold. . . .

wannabe 06-10-2015 02:02 PM

The Scarab 302 CC mold may be the very first performance CC out there. Waaaay ahead of its time given what I saw at the Miami Boat Show this year...

Team Archer 06-10-2015 03:07 PM

problem is that all of that tooling has been moved around with forklifts for years and is bent up bad. and you cant use the name scarab. I have all of the original larry smith Team Scarab hulls and flat deck molds from 26 to 51 but there again I cant call them Scarab. Wellcraft sold the trade mark that's why its on little jet boats

Sportboats 06-10-2015 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Team Archer (Post 4315829)
problem is that all of that tooling has been moved around with forklifts for years and is bent up bad. and you cant use the name scarab. I have all of the original larry smith Team Scarab hulls and flat deck molds from 26 to 51 but there again I cant call them Scarab. Wellcraft sold the trade mark that's why its on little jet boats

Wellcraft still owns the name Scarab.

Team Archer 06-10-2015 03:11 PM

and what sucks is I built the last 5 or 6 Scarab race boats but cant use the name.

Team Archer 06-10-2015 03:12 PM

Recboat Holdings owns the name that's what Larry told me. They offered to let us use it for a percentage of each boat .

PARADOX 06-10-2015 03:19 PM

SKARAB.. Problem solved. lol. I would love to do an AVS or Larry hull.

Team Archer 06-10-2015 03:20 PM

can build you what ever you would like all of the team Scarab molds are now stepped.

Rookie 06-10-2015 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 4315794)
I'm in! lol . . . . . which one is the HST :D . . . . tell ya what tho the 33AVS would be a good one to have. Wonder what they want for that mold. . . .

A 35'-36' AVS is what I'd like.

sbracing 06-10-2015 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Team Archer (Post 4315831)
and what sucks is I built the last 5 or 6 Scarab race boats but cant use the name.

Call them Baracs

hogie roll 06-10-2015 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Team Archer (Post 4315833)
Recboat Holdings owns the name that's what Larry told me. They offered to let us use it for a percentage of each boat .

Does Larry smith have his own name trademarked? Could be a decent brand.

New 302 CCs would probably sell, people love them. That's essentially what renegade, concept and others are selling.

Team Archer 06-10-2015 04:01 PM

We can say built by Team Scarab but cant call them Scarabs

UR2late 06-10-2015 04:13 PM

John owns them from lightning powerboats in Sarasota. He has them with prices on boat design.net under molds for. Sale. They aren't cheap and beat up. I believe he said the thing to do is make an insert from 33 AVS mold and insert it into the 38 bottom.

snowhammer 06-10-2015 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by sbracing (Post 4315843)
Call them Baracs

What will the motto be? "If you like your boat, you can keep it", or "If I had a boat, it would look just like this one"

I'm out if that's the name

buck35 06-10-2015 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by snowhammer (Post 4315875)
What will the motto be? "If you like your boat, you can keep it", or "If I had a boat, it would look just like this one"

I'm out if that's the name

If you like the boat spell it backwards....

Crowney 06-10-2015 06:53 PM

I have always wondered how fast the P29 would be with a stepped hull?

BUP 06-10-2015 06:54 PM

Correct - Rec Boat Holdings owns the name for Scarab and use it for Jet boat builds that came from the Sea Doo jet boat molds as they brought to market because Sea Doo decided to get out the boat business due to declining sales a couple of years ago.

Rec Boat Holdings also owns Four Winns, Glastron, and Wellcraft brands. They bought these companies when Genmar who went bankrupt about 4 or 5 years ago. Genmar owned about 10 to 15 boat companies at that timeframe.

The President for RBH is Roch Lambert who has been the Marine Industry for many years, Anyways just an FYI

hogie roll 06-10-2015 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by snowhammer (Post 4315875)
What will the motto be? "If you like your boat, you can keep it", or "If I had a boat, it would look just like this one"

I'm out if that's the name

Buy mold, slave over laying it up and rigging it.

"You didn't build that boat!"

skater40 06-10-2015 07:49 PM

The center console ones i have seen are nice.

erik1976 06-10-2015 08:44 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Dave, here's an hst[ATTACH=CONFIG]542016[/ATTACH]

bill63 06-10-2015 09:05 PM

Rec boat holdings was own by platinum equity which is Tom Gores from Michigan/California he also owns Detroit Pistons he has since sold the company to Bentenou yachts which is a sail boat company.

JRider 06-11-2015 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by erik1976 (Post 4315986)
Dave, here's an hst[ATTACH=CONFIG]542016[/ATTACH]

I just sold mine last year, great boat! Just too small of cockpit and STVs will outrun them every time.

Blueabyss 06-11-2015 07:51 AM

I dont get who really wants it to say scarab.. If I built it I would want a whole new mfg name. Maybe my name.. Oh no.. I for got.. Chris Craft is already taken...Damit it...lol

Chris

f_inscreenname 06-11-2015 11:05 AM

I wonder if the 24' is Brownie's boat?

iliveonanisland 06-11-2015 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Team Archer (Post 4315833)
Recboat Holdings owns the name that's what Larry told me. They offered to let us use it for a percentage of each boat .

Build them down here in colombia no Copyright issues and i can get you some guys that work their buns off for 12.50 u.s. a day

JRider 06-11-2015 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4316285)
Build them down here in colombia no Copyright issues and i can get you some guys that work their buns off for 12.50 u.s. a day

Is there available facilities?

glassdave 06-11-2015 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4316285)
Build them down here in colombia no Copyright issues and i can get you some guys that work their buns off for 12.50 u.s. a day

unless a boat goes down near by with a bunch of blow, then ya wont see them for a few days . . . . . :D

madbouyz 06-11-2015 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by wannabe (Post 4315799)
The Scarab 302 CC mold may be the very first performance CC out there. Waaaay ahead of its time given what I saw at the Miami Boat Show this year...

It might not be 30' long , but the Donzi St Tropez was started in 1965 I believe.

thisistank 06-11-2015 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Team Archer (Post 4315831)
and what sucks is I built the last 5 or 6 Scarab race boats but cant use the name.

Is Larry not building anything in Santa Barbara anymore?


I think a new KV 38 staggerd with a 6 pack would be a sick PR boat. Kinda like penzoil.

Team Archer 06-11-2015 05:48 PM

Larry has never built in Santa Barbra he built in Ventura for a while but that was a long time ago. We built everything down here in the OC for the past almost 20 years.

Team Archer 06-11-2015 05:49 PM

And we can build a new 38 Flat deck twin step staggered 6 pack boat no problem. Just need $$$$$$ and about 3 months

iliveonanisland 06-11-2015 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 4316323)
unless a boat goes down near by with a bunch of blow, then ya wont see them for a few days . . . . . :D

WRONG they still post for work they just work at a frantic pace... Ive seen them do it... Sparks fly off the pics and shovels

iliveonanisland 06-11-2015 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4316309)
Is there available facilities?

What do u need? How big an área?

JRider 06-12-2015 08:48 AM

well, if help is that cheap down there it would definitely make sense to build boats down there. Whats involved in getting them into the states?

f_inscreenname 06-12-2015 09:45 AM

They float don't they. Stick a South American in it and send them north. If they make it you get a boat and a day laborer.


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