Need a Fleet of Offshore Wave Crushers - What Builder Do You Recommend??
 

Hi Everyone,

Looong time lurker in need of some advice from the OSO experts.

Without going too in depth on who I am or what I need these for, I am seeking some recommendations of an offshore race boat manufacturer that can provide the following:

1) Various model lengths from mid 20' up to 40'....it would be preferable to partner with a single company who can provide a full "lineup"
2) Can build both stern drive and outboard varieties
3) Composite construction preferred, but properly encapsulated wood is OK
4) Doesn't have to be the lightest or fastest, but more importantly must be able to withstand thousands of hours of normal usage....think commercial application
5) Decent pricing
6) V-Hull only
7) STABLE and SAFE
8) Still on the fence about stepped hull or not. Stability and safety for somewhat novice operators makes me lean towards non-stepped hulls.
9) Easy to operate and forgiving (not quirky) for novice operator

Max seas would be around 5' typically less, max speeds in mid 70s. I am not concerned with interiors, cabin, fit n finish, fanciness, etc...I am purely focused on the hull and it's durability, stability and safety in a somewhat harsh, commercial usage environment.

So what boat builder would you recommend that can meet these criteria and why?

Thanks in advance for sharing your expertise.

Active thunder first to my mind based off your description

We can build the 29, 33, or 37 as straight bottom or with the patented DDC single step.

Here is some info I posted in the past:

"The step comes to a very sharp point at the very center of the keel; the line that is followed from the nose. From the step back to the transom is a somewhat flat pad, that has strakes built into it for accurate tracking. This basically allows the sharp point of the step to land first, and split the water in two, and then the pad carries the boat straight and level with no chine-walk/teeder. With such a dramatic single step, the boat ALWAYS, ALWAYS turns on this one step, at 30, 50, 70, 90 mph.

Boats with multiple steps get into a disagreement with the driver on which step to pivot on, at any given situation, and this is how multiple step boats get out of shape in turns. I'll leave it at that. The AT is roughly a single 3-4" step (height varies per individual boat's goals). Some of the other manufacturers are using 2-2" steps for the same angle of attack. (Steps were not designed to reduce wetted surface, that was a by product. Steps were invented to give the boat a better angle of attack.) The DDC single step improves the hull's efficiency between 10-15%.

The 29, 33, and 37 use the same overall bottom design & patent.
The 33 is literally a 9/10s scale version of the 37.
Here is some information on the architect of the DDC hull:
http://www.schoellmarine.com/innovations.htm
And the patent itself: High Speed Planning Hull Re. #36879"

What kind of loads if any? Passengers? Cargo? Empty?

Empty, minus the driver and fuel of course

What are you using the fleet for?

:bong: Maybe?:party-smiley-004:

You shouldn't Darr ask that question.

Oh but then I wouldn't have answered "empty" to the load question above. Probably would have asked more questions like "What boat has the largest cabin and is faster than customs and border patrol with the cabin packed completely full"?

Seriously though, legal and legit operation in business for a long time. I'd like to disclose more, but then this thread will get wayyy OT.

or RM

Hit me up when ur near Cartagena... Lol

High speed crab fishing fleet for the Bering sea? :D

All I know is that one Donzi didn't fare well when testing for the Bearing Sea.

Some of those skank crabs are fast!

Saber Marine

saberboats.com

Saber Marine was first to come to mind!

Call me when you need drivers!

Formula is the heaviest, longest lasting, they don't make outboards, but if you are looking for serveral different models that will all run in the 70's and last forever, it is in my opinion the only real choice. And I drive a Fountain.

Really interested in OP's use for these.............

+1 on FORMULA and that is all I've owned since 1984.
and
Call me when you need drivers!

You really need to look at an Aluminum Boat Manufacturer.

For the abuse and use they are the best by far and they are easily configurable to many different setups as there is no "set" mold design. In boards, outboard, diesels all easy to do.

I agree that aluminum boats can be quite tough. Aside from Metalshark's 40' fearless, I have not seen any designs that are made for high speed. Most are quite heavy, slow and very expensive. If there were a builder in the SE that makes offshore race style hulls with comparable performance, enhanced durability over FRP all at a competitive price point, I'd be leaning heavily that way. Unfortunately, I have never heard of any such manufacturer. Any ideas or references?

Pantera could have been the builder.

Im not feeln thst there was sguy that built a badazz looking aium perfboat 9 or 10 years ago here on oso there was a build thread i think it was toolight and beat the piss out of you and would not run in bigstuff. Anyone know whatever became of that boat?

Yeah the apache ownerz all crap their pants when a formula rolls up the starting línea of a big water offshore race lmao

I have all of the original Team Scarab Molds ranging from 26' to 46' that we can build sterndrive or outboard witch we have built both in all of the models. and we can do stepped or not just let us know. vacumm bagging all of or boats for the last 25 plus years using all of the latest materials.

Here is your aluminum boat builder ! ! !

http://www.silverships.com/.

I cant find the thread but there was a Guy across the pond (Germany, Stockholm or somewhere like that) that built a aluminum offshore boat. I remember it was black, twin diesel's,

WE also have built diesel with shaft drives and rudders for endurance and military.

There were some very good Scarab hulls!!!

Here you go.... Liquid Technologies

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...tion-boat.html

You asking for a lot from a narrow beam boat. "Doesn't have to be the lightest or fastest, but more importantly must be able to withstand thousands of hours of normal usage....think commercial application"

Look at the Scarab hull's from Dan, else your going to need something with some beam to handle the weight and you know the saying.. Good, Fast or Cheap, pick two.

First thing to come to mind was a rental fleet... lol

who is recommending formula for rough seas? Anyone read the 382 hull seperation thread? before anyone says anything, I've owned a Fastech and it didn't hold up to even Long Island waters. It was delaminating at the helm.

I'd recommend active thunder, cigarette, or Apache. All reputable brands that have great track records.

I thought hi performance driving school.

There are a few good options listed already.

Sounds to me like endurance testing of equipment, engines or drive lines.

I am thinking troll.

Padraig

Boston Whaler's don't sink right ? Lol.

I'm thinking troll but I have a genius idea for you that would probably fulfill all your size , speed and rough water capabilities criteria . Before I share this idea I have to ask .
How many boats total ?
Is there a time frame on all the boats being built ?
Are you just looking bare hulls on trailers unrigged ?
What kind of warranty are you expecting on hulls ?

Powerplay? Build I/O & Outboard, CC & flatdeck styles, known for great rough water ride, boat lengths: 23, 33 (35 with platform, you pick), 38 (42 with platform). They are being laid up by Mystic now so you can build them in fiberglass or carbon/kevlar, step-hull or straight bottom.

Just another option