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Jupiter Sunsation 07-27-2015 03:16 PM

http://m.palmbeachpost.com/videos/ne...s-boat/vDXsk6/

CG helicopter video of found boat.......ZERO P.O.B....... zero persons on board

Keith Atlanta 07-27-2015 05:52 PM

My kid is only 4 and I cant even fathom what these poor people are going through. God bless them. Just hearing about it devastates me, everyone is talking about it around here...

tommymonza 07-27-2015 06:00 PM

Any large body of water is very unforgiving. Venturing out in it with the wrong boat and not having the experience to deal with the fast changing weather or emergencies will cost you your life in a hurry.

90 percent of the non alcohol related boating fatalities that happen in a large body of water occur from people venturing out into conditions that are already deteriorated and than not having the proper boat or safety equipment to deal with the situation.

ICDEDPPL 07-27-2015 06:38 PM

Heartbreaking :(

thirdchildhood 07-27-2015 07:26 PM

It's sad. They were so young.

Flightplan 07-27-2015 08:13 PM

Prayers for the boys and their families.

Jupiter Sunsation 07-28-2015 07:37 AM

Search has moved offshore of the Savannah, GA area

tommymonza 07-28-2015 07:50 AM

5 days 4 nights not good .

TW720HVY 07-28-2015 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4334919)
Any large body of water is very unforgiving. Venturing out in it with the wrong boat and not having the experience to deal with the fast changing weather or emergencies will cost you your life in a hurry.

90 percent of the non alcohol related boating fatalities that happen in a large body of water occur from people venturing out into conditions that are already deteriorated and than not having the proper boat or safety equipment to deal with the situation.

I could not agree more, the ocean is nothing that should be taken for granted. It amazes me how many ill fitted boats we see going out into the ocean down here.

The boat these kids were in was a 19' SeaCraft, and I read a post from someone that had experience with them that said with the engine mounted there is only 10" on the transom that is above the water line. This with eyewitness accounts that seen the boys heading out while they were heading in to avoid approaching storms.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/attachme...78639865_n.jpg

Here is an extensive thread in The Hull Truth....

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...ea-reward.html

Perfectmix 07-28-2015 08:34 AM

I was really hoping to hear that they were found this morning. I could not imagine going through this as a parent as I also have two young boys that live for the water. All of the support they are getting from the community and from complete strangers across the country is really heartwarming to say the least. Praying every minute for a miracle.

TW720HVY 07-28-2015 11:11 AM

I just read that they're now searching off the coast of GA and that the Navy has pulled out.

cabin fever 07-28-2015 03:57 PM

Praying they are found safe. I have a son their age.

Flightplan 07-29-2015 10:34 AM

Watched the father of one of the boys last night on Fox. God Bless him. He is still holding to hope. Said there are vests and a large Yeti cooler that were not found, and that his son is very resourceful.

It would be great if they find these young men.

Fast Shafts 07-29-2015 10:56 AM

Apparently I fell for a hoax. There was an artical online with by CNBC and AP, it looked real-and I fell for it. sorry.

TBAG 07-29-2015 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Fast Shafts (Post 4335816)
HOLY ****-just read they were found-ALIVE!!!

I think you read wrong.

Biff 07-29-2015 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Fast Shafts (Post 4335816)
HOLY ****-just read they were found-ALIVE!!!

Where did you read that? That is amazing!

Perfectmix 07-29-2015 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Fast Shafts (Post 4335816)
HOLY ****-just read they were found-ALIVE!!!

I sure hope you are right. Do you have a source for that info? I could not find anything that supported that. Lots of speculation on an orange floating raft is all I could find on THT.

Flightplan 07-29-2015 11:04 AM

Most recent news I could find. Nothing about a rescue.

http://www.mynews13.com/content/news...sing_teen.html

Jupiter Sunsation 07-29-2015 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Fast Shafts (Post 4335816)
HOLY ****-just read they were found-ALIVE!!!

Plenty of hoaxes going on......social media mostly. :(

RNGRDVE 07-29-2015 11:15 AM

There's a story passing around online about boys found but it's dated from 2005...

Fast Shafts 07-29-2015 11:21 AM

Apparently a hoax-sorry.

thirdchildhood 07-29-2015 11:38 AM

Hopefully it will come to be true. If there are life vests and a cooler unaccounted for then there is hope!

Indy 07-29-2015 03:33 PM

I can say without hesitation that if I had a boat in FL I'd be out there putting some time in on the water looking for these kids.

Jupiter Sunsation 07-29-2015 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4335940)
I can say without hesitation that if I had a boat in FL I'd be out there putting some time in on the water looking for these kids.

Problem is they are way way way offshore......off the coast of GA!

The boat was found 67 miles offshore.......my 32 Sunsation will a full tank of gas would struggle to get out to that point and back to shore without running out of fuel. 134 miles round trip is simply out and back, no type of search pattern or anything.

Indy 07-29-2015 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4335949)
Problem is they are way way way offshore......off the coast of GA!

The boat was found 67 miles offshore.......my 32 Sunsation will a full tank of gas would struggle to get out to that point and back to shore without running out of fuel. 134 miles round trip is simply out and back, no type of search pattern or anything.

Yeah...I know. I was also 14 and out in my 14' Hardy Boys boat (that reference for sure dates me) on Long Island Sound doing 14 year old things like running out of gas, rowing to shore, pulling the cord on my 35hp to get a few revs on the prop to make headway and a million other things. It's not the ocean but it's not close to a lake either and it's dangerous out there. Even though it's futile, part of me is with those kids and I'd still give it a shot. Where there's hope, there's people who chip in.

TW720HVY 07-30-2015 07:52 AM

I pulled this off of The Hull Truth forum. Hopefully I am not violating OSO forum rules by doing so, if it is a violation I will understand if it is removed. International Marine Service is a business that has vowed to donate profits from the sale of their safety gear to the families of the two missing boys.

As everyone is aware we are actively searching for two young men that encountered some undesirable conditions very close to our retail location in South Florida. This has enabled the entire THT community to come together and pray and support the families in so many ways. In addition as someone has just pointed out in another thread there is also a much increased awareness for the need of safety equipment such as EPIRB, PLB, and ditch bags on every single vessel.

International Marine does not ever want to benefit for anyone's misfortune. This is one of the reasons we have started the THT theft benefit that has assisted so many members that have been the victim of theft and zero profit to our company.

What we would like to do is the following: For the next 12 months any and all profit of any safety related purchase from our website will be donated to the families of Austin and Perry.

International Marine will not make one penny from these sales. 100 percent of the profit will be donated. No admin fees and no hidden charges.

This is just one way we can bring awareness to safety and assist the families during this very troubling time. Please take a moment and review what equipment you have on you vessel that is needed for you and your family.

Please know each and every purchase will assist the families 100 percent. You don't have to do anything, we will run a report and send the funds at the end of each month for an entire year.

Thank you,

Mike

Here is their website, so if you're in need of new or additional marine safety equipment consider them for a good cause.

http://www.internationalmarineservice.com/

glenncal1 07-30-2015 11:13 AM

Unfortunately at this point a good outcome is in the miracle realm.

TW720HVY 07-30-2015 11:26 AM

At this point, hopefully we will all learn from this and make sure we have all available resources for the type of boating we are doing, taking nothing for granted or becoming complacent. And if you have kids, make sure you treat every outing as a learning experience for them, because one day they might just have a crazy idea to do something not so smart, at least they might bring tools and knowledge they were taught.

This is a tragic event to say the very least.

Sorry for the standing on a soapbox, I am stepping down now.

Jupiter Sunsation 07-30-2015 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by glenncal1 (Post 4336291)
Unfortunately at this point a good outcome is in the miracle realm.

According to facebook/the hull truth . com........some debris went past a Cape Hatteras, NC bouy and the bouy had taken pics of it. It looks like either a white cooler/ possibly life jackets/people or whitecaps. CG responded to the area.

Keith Atlanta 07-30-2015 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4336510)
According to facebook/the hull truth . com........some debris went past a Cape Hatteras, NC bouy and the bouy had taken pics of it. It looks like either a white cooler/ possibly life jackets/people or whitecaps. CG responded to the area.

When did you see that news? Ive been following and havent seen it. How old is that?

I really hope they were smart enough to be wearing jackets. I know the statistics are dwindling but a slim chance is better than no chance.

TW720HVY 07-30-2015 09:43 PM

The buoy images came out this afternoon. I have been trying to find credible news sources that are talking about the images, but so far I haven't been able to.

Jupiter Sunsation 07-31-2015 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4336518)
When did you see that news? Ive been following and havent seen it. How old is that?

I really hope they were smart enough to be wearing jackets. I know the statistics are dwindling but a slim chance is better than no chance.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...eward-172.html

scroll down to the bottom of the page.......

rak rua 07-31-2015 09:23 AM

Don't want to be a doomsdayer but I always say, hope for the best and allow for the worst.

Given the worst possible outcome, Make sure we all learn from this event and equip ourselves and our kids with more knowledge and the right safety gear to prevent anything like this in the future.

I truly believe that most mishaps at sea could have been prevented with a little more education and a few more simple safety measures.

I am still hoping for some good news because I love boating and I love people.

RR

SB 07-31-2015 10:14 AM

There are only so many things you can do to 'control' and 'safeguard your (especially male) teenagers. All you can do is all you can do. From there, hope for the best.

And yes, I can say this from experience. Unfortunately, I've been in several circumstances where all of us did not come back.

Stories like this do break your heart.

TW720HVY 07-31-2015 11:15 AM

Coast Guard just announced they are suspending search and rescue operations at sunset tonight.

SB 07-31-2015 11:38 AM

Glod bless the 2 young men, families, and friends. Sad.

Flightplan 07-31-2015 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by TW720HVY (Post 4336745)
Coast Guard just announced they are suspending search and rescue operations at sunset tonight.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/missing-...ending-search/

TW720HVY 07-31-2015 12:59 PM

Copied this from THT.

those that do do
and those that don't live on facebook and play video games
i got a lot of respect for these boys
they have lived more in the past week than the general public ever will
i hope they are found but if not they're parents should be proud
they had the guts to live

Jupiter Sunsation 07-31-2015 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by TW720HVY (Post 4336778)
Copied this from THT.

those that do do
and those that don't live on facebook and play video games
i got a lot of respect for these boys
they have lived more in the past week than the general public ever will
i hope they are found but if not they're parents should be proud
they had the guts to live

All good and everything but I would hate to know I died due to the lack of a $300 epirb/plb.....

BTW one of the granddad's owned the biggest tackle/boating shop in town.......

TW720HVY 07-31-2015 05:20 PM

There are a lot of reasons why these two kids shouldn't have died.

Best thing we can do, as we move forward, is learn from this. It is amazing how two 14 year old boys just taught a boating community full of adults around the country of what to bring with them for every single boat outing. How many people were really talking about PLBs/EPIRBs or what to pack into a "ditch bag" before last weekend? Not many! How many of us had one before this, how many will now have one?

Their parents/grandparents will have the weight of doubt/choices/actions around their necks for the rest of their lives.


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