P1 cheating
 

P1 has such a great idea and platform. They are truly a one design class. No where else can you race and not have to worry about being beat by the guy with a bigger wallet. It truly allows you to see who is the best pair of driver /throttles are.

With that being said at the last race team Lycamobile were caught cheating. They had actually sanded the bottom down on their boat to try and gain a competitive edge. This is not allowed in the rule book. You can add a coating but not sand or change the bottom from a physical stand point. I guess The name Sand man for the navigator is dead on. Being his name is Sandy. The team was made to put the bottom back to factory or not race.

Now this weekend their close friend Halloween super store had a similar issue. Basically the same thing was done to the bottom. They sanded on the bottom.

Why is it so hard to follow the rules? If you can't beat them in this class it means you can't operate the boat as well as the next guy. Don't cheat, go find something that your good at. Period.

I wish P1 the best. Hope they nip this in the bud before it destroys the class. They have something special

I believe p1 is the only class that is exciting to watch. There is much excitement every race. It is a RACE until the very last turn. Cheating will destroy, yet again, another class. A lot of the people on here treat this class as a joke but it is the most competitive racing right now. I am tired of watching parade laps on my computer screen, or Miss Geico have to run by herself because those boys are the only ones to show up that weekend. Yes the p1 boats are not running 180mph but they are actually racing. I wish there were 5 boats out there running in the unlimited class but right now there are not. So p1 is what is most enjoyable to watch and I hope the boys over there do not allow anyone to continue this. Sanding the bottom of the boat? Nice job "sand man"

WHAT!..... Cheating in boat racing...You r kidding.... L.O.L.

Lucky. I live down the street from you.

Really ? where?

Tera mar drive

I wouldn`t call that cheating.

They made him take the boat and re gel the bottom before he could run.

Were templates used in the Tech?

Everytime I see someone mention Ms Geico in a boat race, it just pisses me off, as they absolutely refuse to insure high performance boats..... The fact that they run a high performance boat for advertising is an insult to the intelligence and passion of those that are truly involved in this "sport".... Just my 2 cents

Your a Jackass. The Geico team is a huge asset to offshore racing.

Why don't you bring your Top Gun to the next race?

brentadkins has a good point - he didn't say anything derogatory about the Geico team, he merely made an observation that Geico corporate doesn't insure high performance boats yet they sponsor a race team and use it in their advertising. I don't disagree...

Well, at least the cheating has gotten "less" blatant!

Sometime back (15-20 years?) there was an indecent where they used two boats with the "fake" boat starting the race and then it slipped away in to some islands and the "real" driver (and matching boat) entered the race midway (of course in the lead).

He crossed the finish line first but was not awarded the honor because they new "something was not right: (you know that you have left someone in the dust and then they are at the finishing line waiting for you).

I would love for someone to chime in on this with the name of the race and actual fact about this

I think you are referring to a Miami Vice episode.
It was called the Great McCarthy.

I think they had 2 50' Carys and were running drugs

yep

And if they had not cheated Sonny would have won because he had the guys from the police car garage put some turbochargers on his boat so that that slug Chris Craft could break 65 , Or was the Scarab in the show by than ?

Errrr.... Now I am embarrassed....

I thought that I was recalling something that really happened (I am hoping that someone wall chime in and tell me that Miami Vice was copying something that happened in real life).

As far as I am concerned Geico's practices are totally misleading and hypocritical, not to mention that they use the top class to perpetrate this bait and switch.

Dean

I think it was the Cris Craft. I just watched that episode last week. It's on a few hrs every morning at 10-11-12 on direct tv

I don't understand cheating ?

If you know you didn't win (fairly ) where is the reward ?
Certainly not a $20 trophy .

Well, In my opinion, there are 2 types of people involved in racing (all forms)

#1 Those who race. Many show up, win some races, spend a lot of money, get a lot of pictures with checkered flags and trophies, brag to world about their accomplishments, move on to something else.

#2 Racers.

Blueprinting the bottom isn't allowed?

No, they are not allowed to sand or blueprint.

We raced P1 last year in Tampa after years of running our own One Design class years ago and All I can say is they are doing a lot of stuff right, that's what I would make a post about. When ever you have racers competing, you are going to have people pushing the rules. Their guys saw someting, got on top of it, and corrected it? What else do you want them to do? Do you really think other teams are not pushing boundries?

Last year there was word of someone using an illegal substance in the motor and they came right in a said anyone caught using it would be immediately DQ'd.

To me they are being very pro active, and their product is amazing.

NO, I never cheated or had a Cary 50 and I never ran drugs or got royalties from that episode.

But, I think I could have won that race fair and square by beating Crockett.

Obviously P1 is doing everything to keep everyone on same playing field. They have a great platform as i have stated. They caught the problem and made Lee fix the issue before he could race. So Reindl your correct in your statement. Their product is amazing. Just don't want a couple bad eggs to ruin it for everyone else. I wonder what Lycamobile would think being a sponsor?

Sandman is right here. You got some facts to prove your post? When you bring my name into a topic you better have it correct...or be corrected.

We call it OPTIMIZING,

Really Clark, jackass?? I do not disagree with you about the Geico team and their contribution to the offshore racing scene.... But if you have ever tried to insure a boat with even modest power, they inform you that they do not insure boats like that.... kinda ironic IMO??

. I often heard the 2 types were cheaters and loosers. I hope that this is not so

Was that your boat in the episode?

:angry-smiley-038::food-smiley-007:

Ok then lets hear your side of what happened to clear your name. I agree there is always 2 sides to every story. Welcome to OSO and your first post.

I beleive he signed up because someone slammed him on here for cheating, Welcome Sandy. For the record, can we know who the accusers even are? So, UR2Late, who are you? nofastboat?

My name is Charlie. As I stated in an earlier post I live in both Florida and NJ. I stand behind my statement of what transpired. The bottom was sanded and had to be repaired before the boat was allowed to race.

That being said, you also stand behind/up for, known criminals and fugitives, lest we not forget your buddy Andy Biddle. Not saying you are wrong about the cheating, although I have absolutely no knowledge of same, but your credibility is certainly questionable.

scarabman, I thought the same thing. He will call out someone for sanding their hull, but he defends known criminals. That's too funny.

I understand some might dislike the fact I know both Andy and Tracy. I have kept my boat at the marina and had a great experience. Some didn't. So obviously there are two sides.

What I can say is that I know that the bottom was sanded. Period. I know it had to be fixed before it could be raced.

I speak with several teams. I just asked And and Tracy. They didn't have any knowledge of the incident.

gow about we get an answer then from the team if it happened? Let them admit it. Maybe another team will pipe in.

Go Scarabman! Nice post! Yeah Charlie tuna UR2L8 is friends with and speaks up for Andy and Tracy. Two no good bastards that screwed good people for lots of cash so they could finance their racing careers. Charlie doesn't hold that against them, but has a hissy fit over a possible sanded boat bottom. Go figure. Hey Charlie, get some perspective on right and wrong! Your buddies are headed towards prison to get their bottoms reconfigured.