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jbraun2828 10-09-2015 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4364185)
I suspect he was trying to outrun the storm......engine died, no viable plan b.......game over.

Your probably right, I think he waited way too long before he tried to out run the storm

Jupiter Sunsation 10-09-2015 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by jbraun2828 (Post 4364189)
Your probably right, I think he waited way too long before he tried to out run the storm

I still couldn't imagine sitting in a "dead ship that is already listing 15 degrees" with 140 mph winds approaching and 50 foot waves.......reminds me of "The Perfect Storm" movie.

Of course, staying with the ship sounds like the best idea (700+ feet long) but if they were in the thick of the storm.......lifeboats would not be a viable option (launching, getting them away from the freighter, etc).

Boston.com has had decent coverage of the story, 6 of the crew were from the area. They did a short story on the kid that was on his first trip out:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/20...subheadline_hp

ImaPoser 10-09-2015 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4364109)
RIP

But there needs to be a Criminal investigation into who ordered that 40 year old derelict directly into a Hurricane.

I read the ship was due to be replaced in a few months. Were they deferring major maintenance to save some $$? Yeah, whole lot seems crappy for this crew.

Jupiter Sunsation 10-09-2015 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by ImaPoser (Post 4364199)
I read the ship was due to be replaced in a few months. Were they deferring major maintenance to save some $$? Yeah, whole lot seems crappy for this crew.

The ship was going to be relocated to Alaska routes as a replacement ship was coming for the FL-PR route. The 5 Polish guys were aboard to evaluate the mechanicals of the ship. Early reports posed the question if something they did ended up disabling the ship.

Bostonirish 10-09-2015 08:47 AM

Unfortunately we will never know the story. Sad. I do know that those shipping companies can't stand seeing a ship sit. The weather forecasters could t even pin down the track of this storm until the last minute. I'm from ma and have a few friends that went to mass maritime. I've heard some horror stories.

phragle 10-09-2015 08:59 AM

It doesnt matter what corporate said, it doesnt matter if the ship was 4 days old or 40 years old, The BOTTOM LINE is that the Captain is in charge of and responsible for his ship and crew. An overconfident captain made a poor decision that cost him his ship, his crew and his life.

Jupiter Sunsation 10-09-2015 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4364208)
It doesnt matter what corporate said, it doesnt matter if the ship was 4 days old or 40 years old, The BOTTOM LINE is that the Captain is in charge of and responsible for his ship and crew. An overconfident captain made a poor decision that cost him his ship, his crew and his life.

Makes you wonder if there was a "bonus" program for captains to keep the ships on schedule........:eek:

NASCAT 10-09-2015 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4364208)
It doesnt matter what corporate said, it doesnt matter if the ship was 4 days old or 40 years old, The BOTTOM LINE is that the Captain is in charge of and responsible for his ship and crew. An overconfident captain made a poor decision that cost him his ship, his crew and his life.

Kind of a cast a blanket statement based on an age old cliche w/o having 1 iotta of personal information as to what the circumstances were, don't you think?? All any of of here know is what we heard / read in the media. You make it sound as if the captain had part ownership, new his equipment was less than satisfactory but value profit margin over safety & the lives of his crew, had several other job offers to be a captain elsewhere on newer ships w/ better safety equipment but he chose this ship, rolled the dice & was reckless from the get go.

How about a little sensitivity over the tragedy & maybe starting your posts w/ IMHO w/ an emphasis on HUMBLE?

I guess we shouldn't have been praising Captain Sully for landing the US Air jet safely in the Hudson but maybe GRILLED him over his poor decision to fly into a flock of birds. Yep that makes sense!

Bostonirish 10-09-2015 09:51 AM

Let's not forget that storm also escalated very quickly. It went overnight from a ts to a cat 2. Those cargo ships run through horrible weather all the time. Bottom line a sad situation.

Wobble 10-09-2015 10:14 AM

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The ship was 40 years old and actually a car carrier with a design life of 25 years. With the ship listing, lifeboats could only be launched from one side, which would be the side that would come down on you when it capsized.

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/10/0...in-rough-seas/

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