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what went wrong ?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/12...g-down-at.html
wrong oil ?, wrong, type of heads, cam, rods, rings?....wrong "engine designer"?....did it have XR drives ?.....did it have used 1075 parts in it ? |
cable broke on the steering ?? maybe the alpha went south
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Cruiser wake dislodged the oil pump. Kaboom.
"metal debris collected in the lube oil filer, causing the system to shut down" That's the PC/DNC way of saying "we blew a motor." Like I heard once: 'It was an electrical connectivity problem. The piston came up, and whacked the spark plug, which knocked the spark plug wire off.' |
Gas turbines!
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Originally Posted by Pete B
(Post 4386604)
Gas turbines!
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I was a Gas Turbine Tech in the Navy - even pre-commished a cruiser at Bath Iron Works where this ship was built.
What shut this ship down was the most feared casualty to the main propulsion system that can happen: FUD (Fuk... Up Debris) in the main Reduction Gear Lube Oil System. The snipe on watch probably discovered it when he was cleaning the lube oil purifier soon after the ship got underway - a task I did so many times while I was in watch in the engine room. Not sure if the reduction gear locked up or if they just kept finding shavings and shut it down before the inevitable. The main reduction gear is kept under lock and key because it would be so easy to incapacitate the ship by throwing something in there and in 99% of cases if something does go wrong with the reduction gear it's beyond the capacity of the ships personal to fix it. That's a job for the shipyard and the boys at Western Gear. http://youtu.be/YLQW2QJ_fzQ |
could of been the caterpillar propulsion drive system failure
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My guess is the multicombulator disconfigured. Sixty percent of the time it'll get you every time.
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Ethanol gas ate the fuel tanks
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The Flux Capacitor failed to discharge causing the Turbo Encabulator (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag) to toss it's cookies into the Drive Lube Reservoir. This in turn fed radioactive debris into the Alpha Drive. Since the Navy had something bigger than a small block powering the ship, I doubt Mercury will warranty the fix. This means the tax payer will be on the hook for it - again.
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Muslim mechanic.....
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Chinese parts
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Originally Posted by 33outlawsst
(Post 4386609)
could of been the caterpillar propulsion drive system failure
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I heard the under water drain plug led light was still working just fine.
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All good guesses but obviously the problem was the wrong engine oil was used. Only if they were OSO members they would have known the proper oil to use.
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The Bob Straub cam reverted with dry exhaust
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4386665)
The Bob Straub cam reverted with dry exhaust
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
(Post 4386608)
I was a Gas Turbine Tech in the Navy - even pre-commished a cruiser at Bath Iron Works where this ship was built.
What shut this ship down was the most feared casualty to the main propulsion system that can happen: FUD (Fuk... Up Debris) in the main Reduction Gear Lube Oil System. The snipe on watch probably discovered it when he was cleaning the lube oil purifier soon after the ship got underway - a task I did so many times while I was in watch in the engine room. Not sure if the reduction gear locked up or if they just kept finding shavings and shut it down before the inevitable. The main reduction gear is kept under lock and key because it would be so easy to incapacitate the ship by throwing something in there and in 99% of cases if something does go wrong with the reduction gear it's beyond the capacity of the ships personal to fix it. That's a job for the shipyard and the boys at Western Gear. http://youtu.be/YLQW2QJ_fzQ |
Originally Posted by Brandonb_05
(Post 4386661)
All good guesses but obviously the problem was the wrong engine oil was used. Only if they were OSO members they would have known the proper oil to use.
WHICH OIL IS THE CORRECT OIL ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? |
Originally Posted by Speedracer29
(Post 4386671)
Eff it, we're two pages into this and it snowed last night..... So.....
WHICH OIL IS THE CORRECT OIL ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? |
Originally Posted by Brandonb_05
(Post 4386673)
The castrol gtx bottle at advance looks cool, I would go with that one.
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If this keeps up someone is going to have to rename this thread to " looking back on OSO 2015"
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Originally Posted by Speedracer29
(Post 4386675)
But, but, but, .... It doesn't say "compatible with naval grade engines" on the back and I can't find the required ASE spec.... Guess it's Wolf's Head from here on out, LOL.
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Originally Posted by Brandonb_05
(Post 4386666)
With straight out of the box AFR heads
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the facts are in,the afr head stuck a valve in the guide because the water got 2 deg colder up north!:lolhit::lolhit::crazy:
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Not to worry, Turkey's new stealth ships are working flawlessly :flag:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZkmh1hnxms |
Originally Posted by Marginmn
(Post 4386608)
I was a Gas Turbine Tech in the Navy - even pre-commished a cruiser at Bath Iron Works where this ship was built.
What shut this ship down was the most feared casualty to the main propulsion system that can happen: FUD (Fuk... Up Debris) in the main Reduction Gear Lube Oil System. The snipe on watch probably discovered it when he was cleaning the lube oil purifier soon after the ship got underway - a task I did so many times while I was in watch in the engine room. Not sure if the reduction gear locked up or if they just kept finding shavings and shut it down before the inevitable. The main reduction gear is kept under lock and key because it would be so easy to incapacitate the ship by throwing something in there and in 99% of cases if something does go wrong with the reduction gear it's beyond the capacity of the ships personal to fix it. That's a job for the shipyard and the boys at Western Gear. http://youtu.be/YLQW2QJ_fzQ Looking back these ships are really quite impressive GE LM2500'S 20,000 -25,000 hp Gas Turbines depending on the ship that they are on. The main reduction gear is almost a work of art 9ft bull gear, double helical double reduction, 3600RPM input 200RPM output tolerances measured in the thousands of an inch. Pretty neat. |
Originally Posted by Speedracer29
(Post 4386671)
Eff it, we're two pages into this and it snowed last night..... So.....
WHICH OIL IS THE CORRECT OIL ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? |
Instead of hiring Professionals, they went on a forum OCO (OffshoreCombatOnly.com) and asked how they should build it.
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Merc Spec CMI headers are the likely culprit
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Maybe they will just sell the ship and smokin gun will buy it :evilb:
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Originally Posted by Brandonb_05
(Post 4386748)
Maybe they will just sell the ship and smokin gun will buy it :evilb:
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
(Post 4386608)
I was a Gas Turbine Tech in the Navy - even pre-commished a cruiser at Bath Iron Works where this ship was built.
What shut this ship down was the most feared casualty to the main propulsion system that can happen: FUD (Fuk... Up Debris) in the main Reduction Gear Lube Oil System. The snipe on watch probably discovered it when he was cleaning the lube oil purifier soon after the ship got underway - a task I did so many times while I was in watch in the engine room. Not sure if the reduction gear locked up or if they just kept finding shavings and shut it down before the inevitable. The main reduction gear is kept under lock and key because it would be so easy to incapacitate the ship by throwing something in there and in 99% of cases if something does go wrong with the reduction gear it's beyond the capacity of the ships personal to fix it. That's a job for the shipyard and the boys at Western Gear. http://youtu.be/YLQW2QJ_fzQ
Originally Posted by Questofpower
(Post 4386719)
Me too cleaned that thing countless times, always on the mid watch. I was a GSE on a FFG and I completely agree that it has to be a Main Reduction Gear failure it's the only thing that makes sense.
Looking back these ships are really quite impressive GE LM2500'S 20,000 -25,000 hp Gas Turbines depending on the ship that they are on. The main reduction gear is almost a work of art 9ft bull gear, double helical double reduction, 3600RPM input 200RPM output tolerances measured in the thousands of an inch. Pretty neat. |
Originally Posted by vindicator101
(Post 4386753)
Ah yes. Even an old MM like me can remember cleaning all those discs.
Small world Questofpower. I was a GSM5 on the Stark, FFG 31. I got off of her right before she geared up for her deployment to the Gulf in 87 and was struck by that Iraqi plane. The week I got out of the Navy all of the Flags were at half mast in honor of the 37 sailors lost in that attack. I had been off her for 9 months but I knew over half of the sailors that were lost. The ones that lived went thru hell keeping that ship afloat and then were treated like **** by the Navy because I guess they somehow blamed them for letting her get hit. |
I'll bet it had something to do with operating in salt water. Would never have happened if they'd have stuck to the lakes.
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Its already on Facebook Powerboat SwapShop being parted out.
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Originally Posted by Questofpower
(Post 4386719)
Me too cleaned that thing countless times, always on the mid watch. I was a GSE on a FFG and I completely agree that it has to be a Main Reduction Gear failure it's the only thing that makes sense.
Looking back these ships are really quite impressive GE LM2500'S 20,000 -25,000 hp Gas Turbines depending on the ship that they are on. The main reduction gear is almost a work of art 9ft bull gear, double helical double reduction, 3600RPM input 200RPM output tolerances measured in the thousands of an inch. Pretty neat. |
Thank you for your service ^^^^^^
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4386764)
Its already on Facebook Powerboat SwapShop being parted out.
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
(Post 4386759)
Yep, the good ole De Laval Lube oil purifier - had to clean every one of those dam 32 disks :).
Small world Questofpower. I was a GSM5 on the Stark, FFG 31. I got off of her right before she geared up for her deployment to the Gulf in 87 and was struck by that Iraqi plane. The week I got out of the Navy all of the Flags were at half mast in honor of the 37 sailors lost in that attack. I had been off her for 9 months but I knew over half of the sailors that were lost. The ones that lived went thru hell keeping that ship afloat and then were treated like **** by the Navy because I guess they somehow blamed them for letting her get hit. |
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