Deleting beware threads
 

So you have guys that make private deals that for what ever reason do not go as planned ,so when they cant work it out they come on here and start a thread to tell us their side of the story of how bad the other party is,and basically are looking for assistance from us (put the pressure on the other party)to get their money back on a deal they made and we had nothing to do with,

so we all chime in not really knowing much about the deal that was made behind the scenes and stick up for the OSO member,

so here is were I think the bull$hit comes in, I do not think you should delete the thread!,
you asked for our help (if you say you didnt then why start the thread?)then because of the power of OSO you get your money back and then you delete the thread?really??
I thought OSO was more than a web site I thought this is a place where we all watch out for one another,
Deleting the thread is clearly a way you are telling us (OSO) ,hey mission accomplished good for me I got what I wanted from the help of you guys, and as far as the party that I had issues with?well you guys can figure it out for yourself.

Beware threads should be left up once started, not used as a bargaining chip to get what one wants.
Also, a lot of the "bandwagoning" should be cut out. FACTS from those involved or those that have DIRECT experience with the parties involved need to reply.

yep,I agree 100%
when you delete the thread, you in one way or another are showing us how its ALL about you and we were used for your purpose !!

Who cares. It's the internet. Packed full of BS.

Well at least give us the choice to determine what's BS and what's not... "who cares" is not a reason to delete a thread that informs members of potential headaches when dealing with certain businesses.

But what if the the deal is "I'll refund your money if you delete that thread" BAM....thread gets deleted because money talks.....

*But I agree they should stay up, just because the guy caves and gives a refund because of this forum doesn't mean he's not shady to begin with. Unless it was a true misunderstanding of course.

Agreed. There are more than a few here Iv'e read about that got REALLY burned. I'm sure all of them wish there would have been "beware" threads posted that they could have read...

I meant "who cares" as in why delete threads at all. Leave them up.

some years ago i had a thread in the beware section,long story short a guy owed me 4300 bucks and he strung me along for a month,then he stopped taking my calls.shortly after i started my thread he contacted me saying he would deposit the money through a wire transfer if i removed the thread,i said when the money hits my account i will remove the thread.the next day when i checked my account the payment had been made,being a man of my word i contacted a moderater and requested the thread be removed.in this case i had to give my word to get my money.as much as would have liked to leave the thread up for others to be warned i gave my word.one thing i know for sure,the power of oso is amazing.

Got it

And I understand mike tkach's point too, it's a tough situation for sure.

Some of you might think different if it was your $1200 instead of Smoking Gun's.

Padraig

I know exactly how u feel . and where the origainal poster of this thread is going with this . Yes yesterday I started a thread telling exactly what happened in my situation with pics .. And yes until it was posted on the Internet i got nowhere .. However I was contacted and told I would be receiving a check this morning . The sender tracked it to my house within minutes of being del . I was contacted and told to delete the thread as I was paid . Now mind u I have a personal check in my hand that I have to dep and if thread stays up im sure it won't clear or do I want to be a tough guy eat $1.200 and leave the thread up ????
It's easy for all u guys to say till your in the situation . I have my word I would take it down and I value that . So in the end am I the bad guy ??? Sooner or later the guy would have *****ed to oso mods and it would have been pulled like many others have and i would still be out the $$$ .. So in ending anyone want to put up $1.200 I'll gladley put the post back up as long as I have my money back
Any takers. ????? Ya I didn't think so

Some years ago a well known member of this site, screwed me on a pair of sport masters, after numerous emails and phone calls met with a resounding thud and little action a well worded post on OSO got it resolved in a day...
In this particular instance the well known member pulled some strings and had the post removed, so it can unfortunately swing both ways, I would have much rather it been left up.

I agree ...but sooner or later the thread will go away get buried and lost .like I said in my first post .. I can leave the post up its just gonna cost me $1.200 I don't think I really want to advertise it ..I still need a set of heads though ..funny how easy other guys think .and don't get me wrong I appreciate all the support I got here from others and I always speak up as well for other in the same situation .things may have been different if the amount had been smaller u never know ...I did what I said I would do its over .not beating a dead horse

heres a guy who understands

ill tell u what ill do for u ..send me a check for $1.200 and ill put the post back up ..gotta luv it its all about me .put yourself in my position

I bet you would have walked away from the $1.200 right ?????? jerk

We all need to look out for one another and help each other out thats the way of our sport. It sucks becouse it is a double edged sword if you leave it up to possibly save someone else the hassle good chance you might not get your problem solved. Then if you get it solved by giving your ward that when it is you will taking it down and at that point you open up the chance for some one else to get burnt by the same guy. It sucks earth way and if people conducted there sales in a way that they would wanted to be treated there would be no need for a beware section. But that is unrealistic sadly.

the guy in question has 30 items in the classified section that he has paid for to advertise .you really think oso wont pull the post .??? I considered everything long before this

No need to jump on him, you see the other side too. Part of the site is to help protect members from these predators and I get that sentiment, I also get your end of needing to get your money back, sort of a win-lose scenario but all here understand your position.

I am the original poster Gordon,and believe it or not its always about you,there has been many beware threads deleted your is just one of them,but this thread is not about you,its about all the people that take time to reply to these threads and than POOF its GONE!!!

I have to tell you Gordon I have bought parts from you in the past and spent some time talking to you on the phone,and you always were a gentleman and real nice,BUT on this site with some of your replies Gordon you come of sounding rather bitter and always rough,so for a guy that pretty much runs a business on OSO with just a Gold Membership try to be a little nicer with your replies,
I was NOT thinking of you when I started this thread,sorry if you thought this is about you,its not.

class act ,again,thread was not about you,
and I really dont give a phuck about your $1200.00 thats between you and the other party,your a grown adult you made the deal,so deal with it.

Besides you have told other people to stay off your threads in the past, so please practice what you preach and stay off my thread.

Not interested in arguing with you

Thread was NOT about Smoking gun,

Tough call. I see it as getting your hard earned cash back, but also doesn't leave any bread crumbs for the next buyer who does a search and comes up with nothing and then proceeds to make a purchase.

Next time, after you get your money/parts back and are made whole, put the beware thread back up, unless you signed a legal document saying you won't. :D

who deletes these threads?

Are theyre still super moderators like that speedgirl thing .or has it changed to unnamed mods ?
Just curious if the bias still lives here .:stooges:

A last thought on this, you used us i.e. OSO to further a means to get a result in your favor, if people are questioning the deletion of a thread warning members of a business that might not operate in the best interest of a consumer they have a right to question the deletion. Calling someone a jerk after you used us is uncalled for.

here is my take on this matter,unless money does not matter i see no shame in removing the beware thread if that is what you need to do to get your money back.while i agree that their is no need for name calling how can you blame a guy that really just wants to be made whole again.in my case i had no problem removing my thread to recieve my 4300 bucks.this section is not just to warn others of scammers but also to help those that got ripped off to get their money back.just maybe the guy who tried to screw gorden learned the power of oso and will think twice before he pulls that chit again.also,a lot of members read the thread before it was removed so this section does work.

my thread and gordon,s were deleted by our request as that is what it took to be made whole again.

And while you guys are at it, make sure you tell your wife the names of all the girls you banged in the last 30 years...

C'mon guys, sometimes mistakes are made. It isnt always direct misrepresentation and its opinion.

How many of you are having power built by Cobra right now? Yeah, exactly.

really threads not about me .I find it odd I delete the thread at 10.30 and at 12.00 this one shows up

and yes I tell people to stay off my threads that talk crap and are meaningless ..stupid comments

accept my apology .I was pissed as you would be I hate when everyone gangs up on a guy no matter what you do your wrong

He'll of a coincidence.

Padraig

When these threads appear, it's usually one side of a story between two disgruntled parties. Everyone chimes in with their own take on the scenario, rarely is there much evidence posted and the second party remains unseen.

If the problem is resolved and both parties are happy with the outcome, why keep dragging someone's name through the mud forever? Many people have seen the details and will remember the name, in my books, that's enough. Hold a grudge if you like but stop spreading it to others over something that is often not fairly represented by both sides.

Couple of recent ones I can think of, Ron Belk and his 42 Fountain. Eventually, the second party appeared and started to refute the claims. Neither party posted contracts or evidence, only verbal diarrhea. After several calls for evidence were met with nothing, mods locked the thread pending evidence/contracts from either party involved. Good call, the whole thread just made two people look like angry idiots.

Very recently, Smokin Gun posted his story on how he got dudded on some parts. After a bit of kicking around, his money has been refunded and the problem is now resolved. I presume the thread has now been deleted (I can't find it) and it's water under the bridge.

Keeping these threads active just promotes bickering and dramas on a friendly forum. If the issues are resolved or the thread just deteriorates into a mess of personalities, egos and hearsay then mods should delete/lock as they see fit.

My 2 cents.

RR

So if you are buying so called brand new transom assemblies and outdrives and engines paying good money but cheaper or the same as a full blown marine dealer do you not think something is up as well ? So when you get these parts and there is no serial numbers on these parts - does that not set off a RED FLAG ? if you are buying online or guy(s) who do not have a dealership and guys who work out addresses not known would that be a RED FLAG ?

I also like the claim about this person who claims he was a big master certified tech - well the truth of the matter is this guy never turned a wrench on any marine engines. There is so much BS that this same guy has and I really would like to see when these cheaply priced OEM outdrives that are bought has an issue right off the bat. NO warranty period.

With that said if anyone who has bought from persons including this person who has something that might have a possible readable serial number on it (that should) and wants me to check it out - to see if in fact its a brand new product and if in fact you have a warranty thru Merc or if its a reman product sold as a lie being brand new or if its a stolen Merc item - just throw me your serial numbers and what that product is plus where you bought and from whom.

GOOD LUCK

this is the beware section which means just that,someone giving us the heads up on a scammer,

for the guys that start and delete threads maybe OSO can add a section,maybe help me be whole again section??

so please if you start a thread to warn us from scammers then please do not delete it,,But if you are looking for OSO power to help you get your money back then post it somewhere else ,

no coincidence,their have many threads deleted his is one of them, he is not special,it is not about him,
its about the rest of us that take time to reply and then wonder what happened to the thread and how do I get my time back that I wasted trying to help someone.

do NOT know when you deleted your thread,I do not follow your every move,dont really follow you at all,

Hey,I am sure the other party you were blaming feels this way as well,

couple of things,1.karma is a biith.2.when it happens to you i,m sure you will practice what you preach NOT.3.who made you the dictator of who posts what where?4,now i think gordon might be right about you.5 give it up dude you are not the boss,hell you don,t even have a paid for membership!

here is an idea,don,t waste your time responding because i am pretty sure nobody cares what you say anyway.for some reason i believe you will keep throwing dirt in the hole!btw it looks like gordon might be a good judge of character.:chill-pill:

it has happen to me a couple of times but I got myself in the mess and I got myself out of it,I have been a member a lot longer than you and up until 4-5 months ago i was a paying Platinum member ,butI did not see the need to pay for a membership anymore because i really dont spent that much time on here,because of $hit like this,trust me its not about the money i can assure you that,
If you want pm your address and I can send you $50.00 ,its NOT a money thing,I can assure you that!
as far as practice what I preach?practice what?all I simply asked was for threads on the beware section not to be deleted so others dont get burned,if that is hard for you to understand then I dont know what else to say,

I started the thread so I think I have the right to respond,
heres a idea,if you dont like the thread than you dont respond,hows that?

this thread was not started about a certain individual,if you and Smokin gun are friend thats great!but dont feel like you have to go out of your way to stick up for him because I am NOT attacking him,at all !