New Bertram Copper Kettle Model
 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]552678[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]552679[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]552678[/ATTACH] Hi my name is John and I work for Mel Riggs rebuilding marine transmissions. Over the years working for Mel I became very interested in making a model of the
38 Competition Bertram race boat Copper Kettle. Last year I found out Sammy James still had the mold for the model of the 38 Competition boat. So this winter he
made me a boat model. Yes I did ask him to make it out of Kevlar but he said No !! The stuff is to hard to work with so he made one out of glass for me. I'm looking
for all the Photos I can get my hands on. Photos of the sides ,engines dash, seats anything would help. If you have photos send me a private email or post them
on here. I will start working on the model when I have done all of my homework. Thanks John

Hey John,
How have you been? Cool project! Cant wait to see that come together. I will check on my external hard drive if I have any pics...

Jack Jr.

Cool model . Does your mom know you have that in your bedroom on the bed?

Very cool.

Heres one I have of it from early/mid '70's at the Strohs Grand National on Lake Erie. Pits were in the marina at Cedar Point amusement park where my parents docked their boat.
I think I spanked my monkey right before this shot was taken ;) Maybe after, not sure since I could'nt see or think straight at that point.


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There are a couple here if this helps at all.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Copp...er+Kettle+boat

https://www.google.com/search?q=Copp...Kettle+Bertram

Jack Jr I was just up on the north side of Milwaukee picking up a engine for one of my cars. We will have to hook up this summer and you will have to give a ride in that Apache. Thanks for looking.

tommymonza I'm just a 51 year old kid!!

Twin O/B Sonic That is the 40 ft Corsa hull. Mel said the boat was good in rough water but was a Tank! They didn't use it very much and they moved back into the Cigarette hull.

SS930 Thanks for looking up the photos on google . Keep looking Thanks John

Sammy James is truly an icon.

Thanks. I didn't think it looked right.

How bought this one I shot at the same race?

Copper Kettle name was on numerous boats including the 38 Bertram and a 40 Corsa.

John,

Will it be motorized?

Jeff

John here are some for you....

I will keep looking for more

Did the Bertram hull go onto become any of the boats we know today? We all know the Cigarette lineage but does Bertram have a similar history?

It was very competitive boat back in the day and I would be shocked if the design wasn't carried forward.

Bertram focused on cruisers and sportfisherman. The 31 Bertram is a legendary hull for sportfisherman but the 38 Comp hull is different. It has a 20 degree Deep V, not 24, some rocker(in some hulls). So as far as I can tell, one of the most beautiful offshore racing hulls was left to history.

Wannabe

No the model will not motorized. But I'm looking for a good model engine, drive and parts builder. I did find this builder http://finemodelcars.com/us/ferrari-...e-at-14-scale/ It looks like big bucks!!

I'm shocked that no one got a hold of the mold or modeled another hull from the 38' Comp. It's actually shocking to me!

B38 I'm trying this spring or summer to fly down and see Sammy James and I was wondering if I could maybe hook up with you and check out your 38 Bertram and your models? John

Sure. Any time.

That design was very fast and very easy to spin out if you did not have experience to handle it. Even with Sammy James handling the throttles and trim in Vincentive, Vince Fasano would arrive back at the finish line looking like a bloody pulp. At one race, Sammy pulled up for the checkered flag and they told him the boat was disqualified. Sammy looked confused and they told him that every boat has to return to the finish with the same number of crew they started with. Sammy laughed and reached down in the cockpit and pulled Vince up off the floor and asked..."Does this count?"

[ATTACH=CONFIG]553407[/ATTACH] Here is a another man that used to run Bertrams. This is new old stock patch that I found roughly 6"x10" . It should have been put on the backside of a shirt or a coat but was never used. And if anybody's wondering it's not for sale at this time it is staying in my collection.

my 38 Bertram Model
 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]553414[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]553415[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]553416[/ATTACH]Some photos of my model - the drives could be motorized, but I decided not to ! Don't ask me where I got the drives and trim tabs - it was more than 15 years ago, however I remember they were not inexpensive - around 1,800 for the hardware on the transom. My Brother Peter, our Still Photographer rigged the model.

Enjoy ! Phil

This link may help to find parts for models

https://www.google.com/search?q=mode...utf-8&oe=utf-8