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Old 05-10-2016 | 11:52 PM
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So you think he owes you something because your putting more power into the boat than you originally started with and this is somehow his fault? Your racing the boat and want a warranty? How long is the warranty on the arnesins? So you say you haven't paid anything for nor torwards these new custom gears because he feels guilty? Did you offer to send money to get the order started as your the good guy here from what I am reading and he is the bad guy. Sounds like you threaten him with this public outburst and now your in a corner of a wet floor as you and your wife have certainly mother F'd him as everyone is saying this to you. I just hope for his sake your not one of these 6'6" bullies that threaten everyone in order to get what you want.
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Old 05-10-2016 | 11:57 PM
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I am sure I must be wrong but you ordered a custom set of gear ratio for your drives and you understood it takes time since, I could be wrong but, a custom means one off set of gears and it tends to take however long it takes for one off stuff. Yet your wanting this custom item but are tired of waiting for the custom one off items and you in turn said your wife went on face book and mother F'd this guy and his business. You yourself started this thread to mother F him and his business and yet all you are wanting is a daily phone call from him telling you when the custom one off set of gears will be done after he told you it would take some time or however long it takes?Is this method going to get better service from a company? Is this going to get you something for free? Is this going to change the fact that you seem to want warranty for items that are 3-4 yrs old running 1,150 hp through a 800'hp warranties drive and your driving it 140+ in big water hitting side rollers as you put it and it's someone's fault other than your own? I guess you threatened to do this mother Fn if he didn't get it done or for free but now what's next? I don't see that this guy has anything to lose by not calling you nor getting the one off set of gears any faster than they are as you've surely mother F'd the hell out of him and his business which is clearly what you set out to do. Mission accomplished but when are you going boating again? Will he be there to support you in the future now you've set out to destroy him and his business because he didn't give you a daily phone call? I may be wrong but how is this shi* talking going to get the one off items any faster? When he does call you telling you that the custom one off items are finished what are you going to say? Hey rick I went on the Internet and tried to ruin your business because you were trying to help me with what I wanted but I really wanted this custom one off gear set for my boat plus daily updates too. How much of your money is he holding as I am sure he is not stupid enough to start a custom one off projects with you not putting some skin in it. Typically one off requires paid in advance right?
wow,have you read through this thread.rik won,t call him back after telling him the cases are built&painted.if i understand correctly rik was on board with this build from day one and speced the drives.rik knew the boat,the power and the intended use of the boat.the drives were installed at skater.i think peter and his people installed the drives properly so that is not the problem.did rik error when he said the drives were what the boat needs?the question about owing rik money was answered buy the op,PAID IN FULL.you say the gear sets are custom one off and take time,they may be custom but 4 months for a gear set,i don,t think so.you say the op is trying to destroy rik and his business,to me it looks like the op just wants rik to return his call and does not know another way to get that call.i think anyone who spends over 400 grand on a boat would be pizzed if they had to wait 4 month on drive repair and can,t even get a return phone call.boatless,if you have factual information about this drive issue please post it.also,if i read this right the gear set,and all the other parts need to be installed in the new cases that are painted&ready for assembly.their are two sides to every story,i wonder why rik is not telling his story.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 12:13 AM
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So you think he owes you something because your putting more power into the boat than you originally started with and this is somehow his fault? Your racing the boat and want a warranty? How long is the warranty on the arnesins? So you say you haven't paid anything for nor torwards these new custom gears because he feels guilty? Did you offer to send money to get the order started as your the good guy here from what I am reading and he is the bad guy. Sounds like you threaten him with this public outburst and now your in a corner of a wet floor as you and your wife have certainly mother F'd him as everyone is saying this to you. I just hope for his sake your not one of these 6'6" bullies that threaten everyone in order to get what you want.
6 6 bully,i think he must be 7 6 and a mma fighter!boatless,you have no idea what you are talking about but you look pretty foolish right now.as i said earlier,if you have factual information please post it because so far you appear to know nothing about it.maybe before posting again you might try reading the thread from page one!
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Old 05-11-2016 | 12:13 AM
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There has to be more to it than that because if alls good then why would the communication break down unless someone made a pest of themselves or was not professional. I mean if this guy gave him all this money then he has to expect to get the special order gears but time line is always ? on custom one off things. You don't just slander someone and their business because they don't take your calls because the custom items are not finished yet.
If your definition of a pest means someone who started calling months after drives where sent and weeks after the promised deadline than yes I am a pest. Unprofessional is not returning your customers calls. Unprofessional is making promises on product, deadlines, and not following through. There is no slander here only stating facts and asking others if they have had the same issues or if they had any advice. After all I have a lot of hard earned $ invested in a product that has had issues from day one. I understand timelines for special products and I could understand if I had been told months not weeks for my drives to be completed. Rik is the one who set the deadline of drive completion at a few weeks not me which lead me to believe gears where either completed or almost completed.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 12:13 AM
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Now it's this ricks fault that the boat cost 400k? The boat owner said he hasn't paid anything for the repair nor for the custom gear ratio he ordered and that the boat was at loto in september I believe he said and its only been 4 months. What happened to the other 4 months and why didn't he wait 4 months to start this project? This is not adding up. What I know is the boat owner has not paid for anything by his own admission because he thinks rick feels guilty. People have stated the boat started with 900's? and now has 1150's and your saying its ricks fault? The boat is raced and therefore it deserves an extended warranty? What would Mercury do? Would imco give him a 2-3 yr warranty? I think the boat owner by his own admission tried to bully this rick guy to get his "guilty repair and upgrade" and went into the Internet to motherF him and did it. I mean this thread doesn't anywhere say rick please give me a call does it? What about email?
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Old 05-11-2016 | 12:21 AM
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6 6 bully,i think he must be 7 6 and a mma fighter!boatless,you have no idea what you are talking about but you look pretty foolish right now.as i said earlier,if you have factual information please post it because so far you appear to know nothing about it.maybe before posting again you might try reading the thread from page one!
I read it your just got a hard with your friend and don't see that your friend is motherFn this guy to get what he wants. If it's was anything else the thread would have said give me a call.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 12:23 AM
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Now it's this ricks fault that the boat cost 400k? The boat owner said he hasn't paid anything for the repair nor for the custom gear ratio he ordered and that the boat was at loto in september I believe he said and its only been 4 months. What happened to the other 4 months and why didn't he wait 4 months to start this project? This is not adding up. What I know is the boat owner has not paid for anything by his own admission because he thinks rick feels guilty. People have stated the boat started with 900's? and now has 1150's and your saying its ricks fault? The boat is raced and therefore it deserves an extended warranty? What would Mercury do? Would imco give him a 2-3 yr warranty? I think the boat owner by his own admission tried to bully this rick guy to get his "guilty repair and upgrade" and went into the Internet to motherF him and did it. I mean this thread doesn't anywhere say rick please give me a call does it? What about email?
you really need to read this thread from page one,then maybe you will stop posting with pure emotions .the op just wants a phone call from rik,just an update about his drives!
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Old 05-11-2016 | 12:31 AM
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I read it your just got a hard with your friend and don't see that your friend is motherFn this guy to get what he wants. If it's was anything else the thread would have said give me a call.
yep,you got me,i do know the op,that is part of the reason i am asking you to read the thread from page one.you just are not getting the message and my bet is you never will.now i have to ask,do you know rik?do you have any factual information about this thread?NO.i am not going to argue with someone who can,t comprehend what he reads.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 12:36 AM
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Now it's this ricks fault that the boat cost 400k? The boat owner said he hasn't paid anything for the repair nor for the custom gear ratio he ordered and that the boat was at loto in september I believe he said and its only been 4 months. What happened to the other 4 months and why didn't he wait 4 months to start this project? This is not adding up. What I know is the boat owner has not paid for anything by his own admission because he thinks rick feels guilty. People have stated the boat started with 900's? and now has 1150's and your saying its ricks fault? The boat is raced and therefore it deserves an extended warranty? What would Mercury do? Would imco give him a 2-3 yr warranty? I think the boat owner by his own admission tried to bully this rick guy to get his "guilty repair and upgrade" and went into the Internet to motherF him and did it. I mean this thread doesn't anywhere say rick please give me a call does it? What about email?
No one is blaming Rik for cost of boat where did that come from? Reason drives didn't get sent in Sept is because it was my understanding he was making the gearing all along , he did not need my drives to make the gearing. Never have I stated that I would not pay for the gearing. Rik agreed to cover cost of NEW UPGRADED STRONGER CASES and I would pay for new gearing. 900s? read the post on this tread from Wobble where Rik stated what horsepower my boat had in it before the boat even hit the water Rik has known all along. As far as payment if Rik would send me an invoice then I would be happy to pay it. I have to ask Rik on here to give me a call? I have tried calling him today several times with still no answer why will he not answer? Again my boat has 30 hours on it due to continuous issues with drives, so yes I feel a warranty should still be in effect.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 12:38 AM
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yep,you got me,i do know the op,that is part of the reason i am asking you to read the thread from page one.you just are not getting the message and my bet is you never will.now i have to ask,do you know rik?do you have any factual information about this thread?NO.i am not going to argue with someone who can,t comprehend what he reads.
I couldn't spot either of them in a room full of two people. Your so close to this your willing to trash a guy you don't know either. I'm not trash talking either of them. #rickgivemeacall
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