there are big lakes and then the great lakes. Superior is 360 miles long 160 miles wide and at its deepest is 1200ft deep. Huron and Michigan aren't quite as deep but close, think Michigan is 900ft deep and like 300 miles long.

My impression:

LOTO is a winding inland brown water lake you could probably swim across in many spots.

Great Lakes are big, cold and separate countries in some cases.

Oceans are where Apache videos are made!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56asSZmSphs

I have only been on the ocean once, so can't comment on that.

As far as Lake Michigan goes, my experience is that basically, anything over 1-3Ft water, the average high performance boat, isn't going to be doing any high speed running. I'm not talking about "guestimated" 1-3's. I mean NOAA observations. They make the rules, not some guy in a pleasure boat. How you or I interpret NOAA's wave reports, is much different. 3-5 footers , is getting big. I always hear how " I lost sight of my buddys boat in the troughs, had to be 8ft'er". The average go fast boat, is probably 4-5ft from the water line to the top of the windscreen.

NORTHERLY ISLAND TO CALUMET HARBOR-CALUMET HARBOR TO GARY- GARY TO BURNS HARBOR- 320 AM CDT FRI JUL 29 2016

TODAY NORTH WINDS 10 TO 15 KT BECOMING NORTHEAST EARLY THIS MORNING THEN INCREASING TO 15 TO 20 KT EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 2 TO 4 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT OCCASIONALLY TO 7 FT BY EARLY AFTERNOON.

TONIGHT NORTHEAST WINDS 10 TO 20 KT BECOMING EAST AFTER MIDNIGHT. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 3 TO 5 FT OCCASIONALLY TO 7 FT.

SATURDAY NORTHEAST WINDS 10 TO 15 KT INCREASING TO 15 TO 20 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 3 TO 5 FT OCCASIONALLY TO 7 FT.

SATURDAY NIGHT NORTHEAST WINDS 10 TO 20 KT DIMINISHING TO 10 TO 15 KT LATE IN THE EVENING. MOSTLY CLOUDY IN THE EVENING THEN BECOMING PARTLY CLOUDY. WAVES 2 TO 4 FT.

Anyone who thinks they are going to go out on the lake here today, and run their 32ft vee bottom at 80mph in this water, is dreaming.

And then there is the attack of the clones, on lake michigan...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyR_ptdLh7M

more clone wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og3-FIMjB7k

A great event ruined by lawyers.

More commercial shipping has sunk in the great lakes then the coastal waters of the usa

The second leg of Boyne thunder north of Elk Rapids passes over water appx. 600 ft. deep

Why do they call it a lake when it it`s a River?

same as kentucky lake,lake cumberland,etc.