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Mseuro 07-31-2016 08:22 AM

We are getting off point a bit, it's not about money it's about people and businesses that don't do and preform the services they promise to provide. There seems to be a lack of work ethic today. From mechanics, truck drivers, and fill in the ________. I remember a time when your word and reputation was everything, and you didn't need an office full of lawyers and a contract to get you to do your job, just a handshake. Times are changing and they are not for the better. I owned a business for 17 years and sold it not because of the work but because the employees and people where such a pain to get them to do their job. It seems that people are lazy and feel entitled to get something for nothing.

Mseuro 07-31-2016 08:49 AM

I look at the younger people today and all I see is the movie "Idiocracy". If you have never seen it I recommend you do. No other movie is as scary as that one and it's supposed to be a comedy.

Hook'em 07-31-2016 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4465499)
I thought the last line was rent it:).

Goes like this.

If it flys, floats or fuks, rent it. If it has tits or tires, you're gonna have trouble with it.

offshore312 07-31-2016 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Mseuro (Post 4465353)
I am about to go postal trying to get my boat ready for the Emerald Coast Poker Run. Have had my boat moved to Mobile AL for a company to touch up some fiberglass, wash, compound, and detail the 1st week of June and was to be completed in 2 weeks. Well here we are the last day of July and they should have it ready Monday. I traveled 3 times in the past month 4 and half hours one way to inspect the boat and show them what a crap job they where doing. Now it has to go to the electronics store for all the other upgrades that could take 3 weeks. Looks like I'm screwed for the Poker Run and most of the season.

No replies needed I know what I did wrong, my point for the rant is when you are spending a large amount of money with these people get a contract and have a stipulation that if work is not completed on time there will be a monetary deduction until work is completed.


I guess I am too trusting but after all I have gone through and additional money paid I will not make this mistake again.

I hope I can make the last run of season.


Two words my friend... "LIQUIDATED DAMAGES" which are assessed on a daily basis when you miss the agreed upon schedule without very valid cause.
This is quite common in my world, where we live and die by schedule & budget.

sprink58 07-31-2016 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4465499)
I thought the last line was rent it:).

OK...let's go with this.."If it has tits, props or wheels...it will have problems...so rent it !! :evilb:

sprink58 07-31-2016 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by offshore312 (Post 4465547)
Two words my friend... "LIQUIDATED DAMAGES" which are assessed on a daily basis when you miss the agreed upon schedule without very valid cause.
This is quite common in my world, where we live and die by schedule & budget.

AH HA...like me...you must be a Contractor !!! Most correspondence begins with " This will serve to INDEMNIFY the undersigned from...."

2jz 07-31-2016 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Mseuro (Post 4465353)
I am about to go postal trying to get my boat ready for the Emerald Coast Poker Run. Have had my boat moved to Mobile AL for a company to touch up some fiberglass, wash, compound, and detail the 1st week of June and was to be completed in 2 weeks. Well here we are the last day of July and they should have it ready Monday. I traveled 3 times in the past month 4 and half hours one way to inspect the boat and show them what a crap job they where doing. Now it has to go to the electronics store for all the other upgrades that could take 3 weeks. Looks like I'm screwed for the Poker Run and most of the season.

No replies needed I know what I did wrong, my point for the rant is when you are spending a large amount of money with these people get a contract and have a stipulation that if work is not completed on time there will be a monetary deduction until work is completed.

I guess I am too trusting but after all I have gone through and additional money paid I will not make this mistake again.

I hope I can make the last run of season.

You need to suck it up as lesson learned and no need to get lawyer involved because will be waste of time also.
When you traveled three times to the shop to tell them what they was doing wrong and tell them how to do their job was the problem. A good lawyer will say reason for delay was you keep adding more stuff to do or if you wasn't happy with results you should have went else where. You should have let them do the job and argue payment option because you wasn't satisfied. Hate you going through it. just my 2cents

Mseuro 07-31-2016 12:57 PM

I was not saying I needed a lawyer in this case. Was just trying to warn others. Yes I did learn something from experience.

Mseuro 07-31-2016 01:00 PM

Also the reason I went to shop was because they said it would be ready. It was one excuse after another.

offshore312 07-31-2016 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 4465551)
AH HA...like me...you must be a Contractor !!! Most correspondence begins with " This will serve to INDEMNIFY the undersigned from...."

30 years in the biz, working under AIA contract building everything from Pharmaceutical Manufacturing, Medical & Surgical Centers, Food Manufacturing, Casinos, Churches, Jails, Prisons, Juvenile Correctional Facilities, Schools, office & multi use, student housing, you name it... the Food Manufacturing had the highest LD @$50k per HALF HOUR for any production time lost due to construction...


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