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Dave M 08-11-2016 10:02 AM

We need an Outboard section in Technical
 
A lot more people are running OB's here now. I'd like to see an outboard tech section, particularly for Verados. Who else?

skate 08-11-2016 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Dave M (Post 4469802)
A lot more people are running OB's here now. I'd like to see an outboard tech section, particularly for Verados. Who else?


Yes!

Pete280 08-11-2016 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by skate (Post 4469804)
yes!

x3

noli 08-11-2016 10:21 AM

,


Agreed, please build an "Outboard" section in Technical



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chewymalone 08-11-2016 10:34 AM

Yes

BL6 08-11-2016 10:57 AM

Verado's baby!

Interceptor 08-11-2016 11:23 AM

OutboardOnly

Indy 08-11-2016 11:28 AM

Go

Crude Intentions 08-11-2016 11:43 AM

The hull truth
Scream and fly
AARP.com

Should all work

offshore312 08-11-2016 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4469852)
The hull truth
Scream and fly
AARP.com

Should all work

Allrecipes.com see egg eaters....:party-smiley-004:

Nate5.0 08-11-2016 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4469852)
The hull truth
Scream and fly
AARP.com

Should all work

I guess someone should let Skater, DCB, Spectre, MTI, and brands alike know those O/B powered boats are not power boats and need to start coming with rod holders huh?

Double Rigged 08-11-2016 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4469893)
I guess someone should let Skater, DCB, Spectre, MTI, and brands alike know those O/B powered boats are not power boats and need to start coming with rod holders huh?

I would bet most Outboard Guys will hold their motors wide open a lot longer than you I/O guys.
Some of you may have some MPH but we go the distance!

Anyone that has Verados check out (The Verado Club) website. It was built by someone I know many years ago. Pretty good site.

Crude Intentions 08-11-2016 02:06 PM

Again. I bet Honda civics get better gas mileage than supercharged camaros also. I know which id rather drive.

Nate5.0 08-11-2016 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4469901)
Again. I bet Honda civics get better gas mileage than supercharged camaros also. I know which id rather drive.

And I bet you still get passed O/B cats then you do by BBC I/O's

Crude Intentions 08-11-2016 03:36 PM

Oh. Now we are comparing cats to vhulls? Why not compare cats to bbc cats? Because OBs don't make the power. That's why.

Nate5.0 08-11-2016 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4469932)
Oh. Now we are comparing cats to vhulls? Why not compare cats to bbc cats? Because OBs don't make the power. That's why.

I did not list a bunch of cat builders?

Are Vee hulls the only thing o/b's power?


Last I checked this thread simply asked about an O/B tech area.....are those O/B's cats running some kind or crazy unknown motor that is not the same as any other O/B? Do they get an O/B pass cause they are on a cat? They are sports boats but a go fast vee hull with O/B's isn't (i.s Active thunders new design)?

I just want to be clear so I can keep my man card and be all tuff, macho, and stuff

Nate5.0 08-11-2016 03:45 PM

I do enjoy the knuckle dragging thought process of many here.....big and loud equals man.

outonsafari 08-11-2016 03:54 PM

yes an outboard section,

Indy 08-11-2016 04:03 PM

Fact is outboards are appearing on OFFSHORE boats which this site is all about, not river runners and silly stuff like that that so many seem to get caught up in.

I'll just point to the Boyne Thunder thread and all the views compared to the Lake Havasu bling fest threads. Gimme chop and throttling any day over the 800 mph river whip-dee-doos. If it's with outboards then I'm cool with it just as long as they're running in the tough stuff.

Crude Intentions 08-11-2016 04:04 PM

answer me this. Why does OBs need its own section? Can questions about those not go in q&a? Or DIY?

Nate5.0 08-11-2016 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4469944)
answer me this. Why does OBs need its own section? Can questions about those not go in q&a? Or DIY?

Why does every boat builder need their own section?

Can't they just have one big section called Offshore boats? It just might make it a bit easier I imagine is all to get the advise or help needed.

Nate5.0 08-11-2016 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4469943)
Fact is outboards are appearing on OFFSHORE boats which this site is all about, not river runners and silly stuff like that that so many seem to get caught up in.

I'll just point to the Boyne Thunder thread and all the views compared to the Lake Havasu bling fest threads. Gimme chop and throttling any day over the 800 mph river whip-dee-doos. If it's with outboards then I'm cool with it just as long as they're running in the tough stuff.

All day brother man!

Dave M 08-11-2016 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4469944)
answer me this. Why does OBs need its own section? Can questions about those not go in q&a? Or DIY?

Simple, so people who are not interested in the topic don't have to wading through tons of threads. There are lots of sections on this site that I NEVER visit. But, it doesn't bother me that they are there.

Wildman_grafix 08-11-2016 05:19 PM

Why isn't more OB Performance V hulls being made? Other then AT it doesn't seem like anybody is doing a offshore performance V hull.

Lots of new 28-32 cats. I know they are light in comparison but you would still think you'd see a few more out there. I know everyone likes the CC because you can carry 12 of your closest friends but in the cats you can't sooooooo why not a nice OB V for those that can't pay cat insurance rates.

Nate5.0 08-11-2016 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4469978)
Why isn't more Performance V hulls being made? Other then AT it doesn't seem like anybody is doing a offshore performance V hull.

Lots of new 28-32 cats. I know they are light in comparison but you would still think you'd see a few more out there. I know everyone likes the CC because you can carry 12 of your closest friends but in the cats you can't sooooooo why not a nice V for those that can't pay cat insurance rates.

not many builder's build 28-35 Vee hulls still. Most still building are going big in length and that means lots of power to move it.

thats my take.

many of those Cat hulls are built by builders constantly building in that size market

indysupra 08-11-2016 06:23 PM

I agree and I don't even have an egg beater. To me it seems like a no brainier to keep people from going to the other sites.

Indy 08-11-2016 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4469978)
Why isn't more Performance V hulls being made? Other then AT it doesn't seem like anybody is doing a offshore performance V hull.

I'll take a crack at this:
- Middle class has taken a beating. No longer buying fun stuff, just trying to survive and save something for retirement.

- Younger generation has technology and social media that dominates their life, carrying student debt too that prohibits expensive toys.

- The high gas prices a few years ago killed the gas guzzling BB sport. As a side note, those financial types that profited off of us by gouging us with high gas prices can go to hell, I hope they're getting theirs right now.

- Tons of people lost their savings thanks to our spiffy government and lovely Wall Street pukes. As a side note they can all go to hell too.

- Corporations have cut all the costs they can, there's only so much they can cut, now they're well into their employee reductions which is doubling the work of those still left, I don't know many who don't work weekends these days.

- Globalization...nobody's fault, not even out puke politician's fault, just the advancement in technology has made it easy to do business overseas, companies are taking advantage of it and I can't blame them because...

- ...we demand the best products at the cheapest prices, I shop around just like everybody else.

- Aging population. Many of us (yes, I'm in this category) are tired or reluctant to crawl into a bilge and contort ourselves to work on the engines. The idea of an outboard and it's accessibility is attractive to me.

- Aging boat supply base. Many of these boats are in need of major refits...many hours on the engines needing rebuilds (not cheap), hull repairs, dated paint schemes, cracking interiors and technological upgrades. When you add this stuff up it get's overwhelming for the average Joe.

- Aging wifes...yeah, admit it, your partner isn't so big on having the sh!t beat out of her as much anymore, maybe a more comfy vessel keeps you on the water instead of at Costco purchasing bulk toilet paper and giant jugs of Mr. Clean.

- New boats are expensive as sh!t. I purchased my new Nordic 28 in 2002 for $62k. It's much more than that now and no way I'm paying close to $100 for a boat like that. Hell, I saw a used Sensation 28 CC for $130k the other day on this forum...I'd spend $130 on a used 28' CC the same day I have my teeth ground down for fun...without novocain. If that's what it takes to get back on the water I'm moving to the middle of the Saraha and investing in a palm tree, well drilling machine, and female camels.

Ing 08-11-2016 06:45 PM

Absolutely need an OB Section! I'd never go back to any other power after owning Verados.

Dave M 08-11-2016 06:59 PM

Superboat still and always has built the 21, 24, or 30 with I/O's or OBs.

bsboss 08-11-2016 08:18 PM

OB section would be great, need to include the Mercury Racing OpitMax too!

Coryc 08-11-2016 08:41 PM

Activator/ Rage recently built a 30' V Hull with 2 300xs on it. Ran over 87mph and that is one of the best offshore v hulls ever made in that size range.

Wildman_grafix 08-11-2016 08:48 PM

Indy,

I get those points but what I meant is there are all these OB cats but very few OB V's. Other then the last two posted. Then again maybe there will be more.

BTW they are very valid points that at my age I doubt I will see change in my life.

Speedracer29 08-11-2016 09:39 PM

Superboat, Baja, Checkmate, Banana, Velocity, Excalibur, Scarab, Pantera, and Sutphen. All manufacturers with their own section. And all manufacturers who've made outboard performance vees since the 80's. That's more than 3 decades of egg beater boats if you're keeping track. Oh, and Progression. But Progression owners don't get their own section. But we don't really need it, as all our boats run and handle perfectly and never break anything. :party-smiley-004:

Indy 08-12-2016 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4470044)
Indy,

I get those points but what I meant is there are all these OB cats but very few OB V's. Other then the last two posted. Then again maybe there will be more.

BTW they are very valid points that at my age I doubt I will see change in my life.

Ahh...but I guess there are much fewer offshore boats being made anymore for those reasons, let alone choosing to make them I/Os or outboards. It's shocking the amount of builders that have gone away or drastically scaled back.

Indy 08-12-2016 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Speedracer29 (Post 4470070)
Superboat, Baja, Checkmate, Banana, Velocity, Excalibur, Scarab, Pantera, and Sutphen. All manufacturers with their own section. And all manufacturers who've made outboard performance vees since the 80's. That's more than 3 decades of egg beater boats if you're keeping track. Oh, and Progression. But Progression owners don't get their own section. But we don't really need it, as all our boats run and handle perfectly and never break anything. :party-smiley-004:

And PowerPlay. And agree with Progression, stout boats without question.

bulletbob 08-12-2016 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by double rigged (Post 4469900)
i would bet most outboard guys will hold their motors wide open a lot longer than you i/o guys.
Some of you may have some mph but we go the distance!

Anyone that has verados check out (the verado club) website. It was built by someone i know many years ago. Pretty good site.

A typical jaunt for me is 80+ mph @ 6000+ rpm for 14+ miles in the roughest water we can find.Let motors cool while enjoying scenery with a frosty beverage and do it again.. and again.....and again! To Hell with winterization. Run your boat!

Speedracer29 08-12-2016 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4470125)
And PowerPlay.

There's a 33 PP with Verados in the classifieds.... You could have all of the ride you remember, most of the speed, and virtually none of the maintenance. I'm holding out for the blue '91 with the 300XS's.

bulletbob 08-12-2016 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4469978)
Why isn't more OB Performance V hulls being made? Other then AT it doesn't seem like anybody is doing a offshore performance V hull.

Lots of new 28-32 cats. I know they are light in comparison but you would still think you'd see a few more out there. I know everyone likes the CC because you can carry 12 of your closest friends but in the cats you can't sooooooo why not a nice OB V for those that can't pay cat insurance rates.

My first boat was just that. A Velocity with twin 260s obs that would run 85+ everyday. WAY to much boat for a first performance boat for myself.

bulletbob 08-12-2016 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by indy (Post 4469997)
i'll take a crack at this:
- middle class has taken a beating. No longer buying fun stuff, just trying to survive and save something for retirement.

- younger generation has technology and social media that dominates their life, carrying student debt too that prohibits expensive toys.

- the high gas prices a few years ago killed the gas guzzling bb sport. As a side note, those financial types that profited off of us by gouging us with high gas prices can go to hell, i hope they're getting theirs right now.

- tons of people lost their savings thanks to our spiffy government and lovely wall street pukes. As a side note they can all go to hell too.

- corporations have cut all the costs they can, there's only so much they can cut, now they're well into their employee reductions which is doubling the work of those still left, i don't know many who don't work weekends these days.

- globalization...nobody's fault, not even out puke politician's fault, just the advancement in technology has made it easy to do business overseas, companies are taking advantage of it and i can't blame them because...

- ...we demand the best products at the cheapest prices, i shop around just like everybody else.

- aging population. Many of us (yes, i'm in this category) are tired or reluctant to crawl into a bilge and contort ourselves to work on the engines. The idea of an outboard and it's accessibility is attractive to me.

- aging boat supply base. Many of these boats are in need of major refits...many hours on the engines needing rebuilds (not cheap), hull repairs, dated paint schemes, cracking interiors and technological upgrades. When you add this stuff up it get's overwhelming for the average joe.

- aging wifes...yeah, admit it, your partner isn't so big on having the sh!t beat out of her as much anymore, maybe a more comfy vessel keeps you on the water instead of at costco purchasing bulk toilet paper and giant jugs of mr. Clean.

- new boats are expensive as sh!t. I purchased my new nordic 28 in 2002 for $62k. It's much more than that now and no way i'm paying close to $100 for a boat like that. Hell, i saw a used sensation 28 cc for $130k the other day on this forum...i'd spend $130 on a used 28' cc the same day i have my teeth ground down for fun...without novocain. If that's what it takes to get back on the water i'm moving to the middle of the saraha and investing in a palm tree, well drilling machine, and female camels.

amen!!

SB 08-12-2016 07:04 AM

How about an OB maintenance only forum because outboards don't need repairs right ? :fear::lolhit:


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