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BUP 09-30-2016 01:19 PM

I Guess Pricing is on the way UP Hugely
 
That will be a great comeback for NEW Boat sales when the day all used boats sell for these prices.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...ss-o67240.html

Nate5.0 09-30-2016 02:30 PM

Cold day in hell the day I pay that for that size, power, and year boat.

thirdchildhood 09-30-2016 02:48 PM

????? $45,000?

They sure covered their ass with all the disclaimers. I don't think I'd buy a boat from them at all.

Slippery 09-30-2016 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4486655)
Cold day in hell the day I pay that for that size, power, and year boat.

yeah

along with an out of biz manufacturer, going into winter, and it doesn't appear to be especially pristine…

BUP 09-30-2016 03:16 PM

and a 65 mph set up also to not even warrant anything over 25 K. Tons of glue down carpet and wood that surely lowers the price even at 25 K.

At 45 K that's with the 5 year no fault warranty

thirdchildhood 09-30-2016 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4486672)
and a 65 mph set up also to not even warrant anything over 25 K. Tons of glue down carpet and wood that surely lowers the price even at 25 K.
At 45 K that's with the 5 year no fault warranty

But it's a 16 year old boat with only 50 actual hours ..... But ...

" All marine vessels, motors, drives or related parts and or equipment, vehicles, cars, trucks, motorcycles, trailers or any other goods or services depicted on this website (goods) for sale are being sold as is. SPM,LLC offers no warranties, expressed or implied as to the quality or condition of any goods sold. SPM,LLC makes no representation as to the quality or condition of the goods. Though some goods described on this website may be described as new or used, some components of the goods may be new and others used. SPM,LLC encourages all buyers to obtain a Marine Survey prior to purchase, of both new or used goods (structurally & mechanically) because, SPM,LLC does not represent and/or warrant the quality or condition of the goods listed for sale on this website, new or used. SPM,LLC does not warrant accuracy of the description of the goods listed for sale on this website."

lol

BUP 09-30-2016 03:27 PM

17 year old boat 2017's are out

NitroSun 09-30-2016 04:04 PM

There's 522 boats for sale in the classifieds. At least 400 of them are over priced. Some of them by double. What's the big deal?

BUP 09-30-2016 04:20 PM

Had to start somewhere with the first overpriced boat, give me some more time and I will get posting the other 399 over priced boats. Or if you wanted to pick up the slack be my guest ^^^^^^^

gotime34 09-30-2016 08:11 PM

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/5510

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/12514

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/5336

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/33186

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/10736

Sorry if any of these are people on here's boats. I didn't post any but I feel really bad for the guys that dropped a disgusting amount of money restoring 20-30 year old boats and thinking they are going to get anywhere near what they have in them, there are a few in the oso classifieds but I feel bad posting them. I also find it funny how long people are willing to hold onto things and not move on their price. Every year that thing sits it gets another year older, everything on it gets worse, and they will make you feel like an a-hole for offering 10% below the asking price..and I'm talking about in general not just with boats. People do it with property all the time and they have to pay taxes & insurance every year. Some people are very proud of their ****, let it go and move onto the next thing in your life. Again I apologize if I offended anyone if these are their boats it is just my opinion.

Nate5.0 09-30-2016 08:52 PM

A 1989 30' Velocity for over 6 figures.........that's the end of the internet

class6 09-30-2016 09:06 PM

Do you see how old the adds are? The one cigarette add was from 08. That would make the boat 4 years old at the time. Not a bad deal

Stuckonstupid 09-30-2016 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by class6 (Post 4486859)
Do you see how old the adds are? The one cigarette add was from 08. That would make the boat 4 years old at the time. Not a bad deal

You have no idea how hard it is to delete an ad on powerboat listings.com, my ad from 7 years ago is still on there after numerous attempts to have THEM delete it because I couldn't.

Nate5.0 09-30-2016 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Stuckonstupid (Post 4486865)
You have no idea how hard it is to delete an ad on powerboat listings.com, my ad from 7 years ago is still on there after numerous attempts to have THEM delete it because I couldn't.

I get it.

I am 2 years in and get mine taken down either lol

Wildman_grafix 09-30-2016 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4486869)
I get it.

I am 2 years in and get mine taken down either lol

Makes it almost worthless to use that site, who knows if the boats are still for sell or not.

1MOSES1 09-30-2016 10:01 PM

This thread is retarded. Who gives a sh*t what anyone is asking for there boat. If they get it more power to them...

BUP 09-30-2016 11:16 PM

Basically I agree - the point really was if used boats are going to climb drastically in selling prices then all the more it could make new boats a better option for sales. Keep in mind for older boats, it is getting very hard to find new parts and even engine blocks for. Again this helps new boats for an uptick in sales as the industry deeply needs. Many service shops will not even touch a 20 year old boat either. If you call Mercruiser looking to buy any 454 -- no more 454 remans or repowers or new 454 blocks and or 454 engines thru them to be had. They are all done with the 454 completely even remans like I said.

The question for an off the topic comparison is how much would you pay for a single cab chevy 1500 - 2000 year model say in average condition - with somewhat outdated looks and an engine that is not even made anymore with very mild options ? Would you pay 3/4 of a price tag what it sold out the door for in 2000 ? that would be a possible calculation of around 30 K for an old truck. 17 year old auto / truck is considered old by auto standards - I doubt you would even pay 17 K for it - At 30 K for a 17 year old used truck - I surely would be looking at new trucks not even thinking about anything used. Point well taken I would hope.

Also if you looked around and did some haggling on the used boat market especially this time of year and forward --- think about what 45K to 50 K would really get you.

BUP 09-30-2016 11:48 PM

example - 3 years newer and haggle the crap off the OBO --- and without a novel of disclaimers.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...80-o67235.html

gotime34 10-01-2016 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4486880)
This thread is retarded. Who gives a sh*t what anyone is asking for there boat. If they get it more power to them...

Your retarded, who gives a **** what you think? People like you make people not want to post anything interesting for fear of being bashed by people like you, which then makes the site boring. I find the topic interesting and the thread entertaining and a good perspective on things. Who cares about your holier than though opinion, let the guy post what he wants, if you don't like it then don't comment.

1MOSES1 10-01-2016 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by gotime34 (Post 4486924)
Your retarded, who gives a **** what you think? People like you make people not want to post anything interesting for fear of being bashed by people like you, which then makes the site boring. I find the topic interesting and the thread entertaining and a good perspective on things. Who cares about your holier than though opinion, let the guy post what he wants, if you don't like it then don't comment.

Coming from the guy who doesn't know the difference between you're and your...ouch

mikebrls 10-01-2016 07:57 AM

They ask for a high price just to sell for a lower price , Thats the way it work's , Now if they asked for a lower price do you think people will give them a higher price :)

class6 10-01-2016 08:07 AM

Is my boat worth more because it's one of the last 24s made. It's clean and the company will never make another? Man I hope so!

Indy 10-01-2016 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4486944)
They ask for a high price just to sell for a lower price , Thats the way it work's , Now if they asked for a lower price do you think people will give them a higher price :)

Or people like me will completely blow it off since I assume the seller is just unrealistic, too many deals out there to waste time with dreamers.

rak rua 10-01-2016 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4486925)
Coming from the guy who doesn't know the difference between you're and your...ouch

Well picked up on the grammar but you should check your previous post and the phrase "there boat". Dont you mean 'their boat'?........ Ouch

Sorry, I'm not a stirrer but we all make mistakes sometimes. :):)

RR

1MOSES1 10-01-2016 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4486956)
Well picked up on the grammar but you should check your previous post and the phrase "there boat". Dont you mean 'their boat'?........ Ouch

Sorry, I'm not a stirrer but we all make mistakes sometimes. :):)

RR

No

flatlanderbill 10-01-2016 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by gotime34 (Post 4486832)
http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/5510

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/12514

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/5336

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/33186

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/10736

Sorry if any of these are people on here's boats. I didn't post any but I feel really bad for the guys that dropped a disgusting amount of money restoring 20-30 year old boats and thinking they are going to get anywhere near what they have in them, there are a few in the oso classifieds but I feel bad posting them. I also find it funny how long people are willing to hold onto things and not move on their price. Every year that thing sits it gets another year older, everything on it gets worse, and they will make you feel like an a-hole for offering 10% below the asking price..and I'm talking about in general not just with boats. People do it with property all the time and they have to pay taxes & insurance every year. Some people are very proud of their ****, let it go and move onto the next thing in your life. Again I apologize if I offended anyone if these are their boats it is just my opinion.

Wow , you found some prime examples there! Although that apache is pretty sweet.

BUP 10-01-2016 09:53 AM

I really did not mean to start anything here at all by posting.

couple things stand out - really the starting price tag is way out of line - this just took 99 % of people out the mix for buying it as they will move on looking for something else especially internet shopping --- so no big deal but great if it is not priced to high and someones buys it,

The used boat market is getting slimmer and slimmer to choose from inwhich possible price increases for used boats across the board ( I/O's especially Sportboats ).. If so this can lead possibly for an increase in new boat sales inwhich can be a real good thing..

Drake22.250 10-01-2016 09:59 AM

BUP ass for every seat, too bad some of the asses have keyboards!!! :party-smiley-004:

1MOSES1 10-01-2016 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Drake22.250 (Post 4486989)
BUP ass for every seat, too bad some of the asses have keyboards!!! :party-smiley-004:

This topic has been beaten to death before. The horse is dead "poking with stick".

mikebrls 10-01-2016 10:50 AM

what's really crazy is the price for a brand new single engine boat ,WoW Keep them under a $ 100 k and they will sell a lot ,

boats74 10-01-2016 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4486853)
A 1989 30' Velocity for over 6 figures.........that's the end of the internet

Holy hell on that price!!

Nate5.0 10-01-2016 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4487003)
what's really crazy is the price for a brand new single engine boat ,WoW Keep them under a $ 100 k and they will sell a lot ,

When used ones are $100k why price new ones under?

outlw36 10-01-2016 06:02 PM

New boat prices are retarded.
If a person invested a 1/4 of a new boat price and made there boat new again, why shouldn't it be worth the money.
New 38 CIG with 700's 500k
Old 38 CIG made new 150k

Seams like a savings to me, because your going to lose your ass when you go to sell the new one anyway.

Just my opinion

Dave3fl 10-01-2016 06:22 PM

Maybe the used one is $100k BECAUSE the new ones are closer to $200k. I'm not saying the used one is reasonably priced but new boat prices are insane right now. I don't know why and I'm not criticizing boat builders, obviously people are paying $$$ for new boats so the demand is there. The last new boat I bought I got almost as much as I paid for it when i sold it seven years later.

yeller 10-03-2016 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4486677)
But it's a 16 year old boat with only 50 actual hours .....

I wouldn't count on that. Shogren will lie about hours. Not a very honest company.

Dave M 10-04-2016 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Stuckonstupid (Post 4486865)
You have no idea how hard it is to delete an ad on powerboat listings.com, my ad from 7 years ago is still on there after numerous attempts to have THEM delete it because I couldn't.

Do you remember your login info? Or, still have the same email? After I sold my boat I logged in and deleted the listing, no problem.

As far as the original post.....I thought that boat was priced pretty high too. I let my Superboat go for not much more than that and it was a 2006 with a 525efi, ITS, K-planes, etc. etc.

chewymalone 10-04-2016 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by gotime34 (Post 4486832)
http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/5510

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/12514

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/5336

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/33186

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/10736

Sorry if any of these are people on here's boats. I didn't post any but I feel really bad for the guys that dropped a disgusting amount of money restoring 20-30 year old boats and thinking they are going to get anywhere near what they have in them, there are a few in the oso classifieds but I feel bad posting them. I also find it funny how long people are willing to hold onto things and not move on their price. Every year that thing sits it gets another year older, everything on it gets worse, and they will make you feel like an a-hole for offering 10% below the asking price..and I'm talking about in general not just with boats. People do it with property all the time and they have to pay taxes & insurance every year. Some people are very proud of their ****, let it go and move onto the next thing in your life. Again I apologize if I offended anyone if these are their boats it is just my opinion.

That's one of the big problems with powerboatlistings.com. A couple of the ads you referenced are from 2008 and 2010. Still, most of the stuff on the market is way overpriced and some dealers think they can bring a premium because people will have more of a sense of security buying from them. I'd rather buy from an individual who took care of an immaculate boat and tears up when it rolls away. I was recently a seller in such a transaction.

caseyh 10-04-2016 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by outlw36 (Post 4487101)
New boat prices are retarded.
If a person invested a 1/4 of a new boat price and made there boat new again, why shouldn't it be worth the money.
New 38 CIG with 700's 500k
Old 38 CIG made new 150k

Seams like a savings to me, because your going to lose your ass when you go to sell the new one anyway.

Just my opinion



agree!
I know ill never get what ill have sunk into my cig bullet but its the way I want it and know what is there now. do I think it should bring more then it would? yes only because what has been do to it. its better then when it came from the factory. I couldn't afford a new one. could have bought a tired 38ts now but it would have been just that a tired needed work boat. then you sink more fixing the newer bigger boat and your right back to the could have completely redone a older one then have a newer one half way done. just my $.02

UR2late 10-05-2016 04:00 AM

Builder in Clearwater area is building a twin step 26-28 that is affordable and performs. Runs 75 with stock 250 outboard and sells for 55-60k.

VoodooRob 10-05-2016 06:22 AM

2016 38 Fountain, New 38 Top Gun build price and the couple of new Bajas are the same retail price now as they were 10 years ago. So why the sticker shock on new boats?


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