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hogie roll 10-04-2016 05:10 PM

More big Outboards
 
I know how you boys love outboards :D

Copied from thehulltruth

I always remember the saying - watch out for the quiet kid, well I guess that also applies to outboard manufacturers and Suzuki would be the quiet kid. This information comes from Japan and I am not at liberty to disclose the source, but Suzuki should start sending teasers to the press in the late December time-frame as they ramp up marketing for the boat show.

Game changing next generation Suzuki high horsepower models to be launched for 2017. Official release slated for the Miami Boat Show. Here are initial some details from Shizuoka Japan:

- 2 new high horsepower models for 2017 DF350 and DFS400

- Displacement increase of 0.5L over current 300hp model to produce 350hp and 400hp respectively on 87 octane.

- The 400hp model will utilize the same increased displacement as the 350hp model, with a supplemental supercharger running low boost to provide the added horsepower.

- (VVT) Variable valve timing will remain and VLT (Variable Lift Timing) for increased torque and power.

- Hydraulic valve lifters eliminating valve adjustments.

- Direct injection with an increased economy of 16% over tradition fuel injection.

- Internal cooling passages coated with NASA derived nano-technology carbon Teflon material with an expected life of 20 years. This material eliminates corrosion issues.

- Power steering will be standard and integrated into a newly designed transom bracket with integrated power trim/tilt. Power trim is 30% quicker and incorporates an auto trim feature.

- SmartOil (trademark pending) monitors engine oil service life and alerts the user when the oil needs to be changed. Synthetic oil is standard and oil changes are extended to 200 hours.

- FuelWatch (trademark pending) monitors fuel condition alerting user of low octane condition or poor fuel conditions (i.e. emulsified water in fuel).

- Fly by wire will be replaced with Wi-Fi Connect, an industry first. Wi-Fi Connect reduces installation time by up to 80%. Installation entails 1) mount motor, 2) connect fuel and battery 3) sync binnacle Wi-Fi to motor and go. Wi-Fi Connect also provides engine data to Wi-Fi Connect compatible gauges.

- Modular cowl with separate side and top units offered in several color combinations to accent boats and boaters tastes.

- TopCharge Cowl (trademark pending) option integrates a small solar panel in the horizontal surface of the cowl to provide trickle battery charging when motor is not in use.

- 5 year warranty, non-declining (no 3rd party warranty).

- Weight for the 350hp* is 630#, weight for the 400hp* model is 660# (* - denotes 25 shaft)

Pricing has not been announced, but expected to be aggressive as Suzuki is looking to dominate the repower market and establish a stronger position in the factory rigged boat market. These new technologies are expected to trickle down into the 200-300hp range the following model year.

Only 135 days for the Miami Boat Show Premier and this is going to be an interesting Miami Boat Show.

indysupra 10-04-2016 05:25 PM

Pretty exciting stuff!!

obrien 10-04-2016 05:50 PM

I don't see them eliminating corrosion. That seems like a bit of a stretch. Fly by wire is bad enough. There is no way in hell I would buy and engine being run thru wifi.

SB 10-04-2016 05:54 PM

Would love drive trim and tab trim indicators to be Wifi connect. No holes nor cables. It is 2016.

Marginmn 10-04-2016 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by obrien (Post 4488236)
I don't see them eliminating corrosion. That seems like a bit of a stretch. Fly by wire is bad enough. There is no way in hell I would buy and engine being run thru wifi.

http://www.jammerfromchina.com/categ...tooth_Jammers/:whistle:

obrien 10-04-2016 11:03 PM

I need one of those in my truck so I can screw with all the ass hats that have their face buried in their phone while driving

Clayfan 10-05-2016 06:40 AM

I hope the information is accurate but here in Canada, Suzuki, Corp. anyway does not have a great following.

This is after the flawed shared models for a few years between them and Kawasaki in the MX and Off Road Motorcycle line and another decision a few years later to pull completely out of the Automotive Business in Canada. I guess these are business decisions made by guys and gals at the top of the food chain. But they really screwed over some Dealers up here and the Customer base in general leaving them with Orphan Vehicles and no access to OEM parts.

Nice job Suzuki.

Wasted Income 10-05-2016 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by obrien (Post 4488236)
I don't see them eliminating corrosion. That seems like a bit of a stretch. Fly by wire is bad enough. There is no way in hell I would buy and engine being run thru wifi.

I agree, this is an awful idea. I have a hard enough time connecting my ipad to the wifi while on the can, 2 rooms away from the router.


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4488238)
Would love drive trim and tab trim indicators to be Wifi connect. No holes nor cables. It is 2016.

I agree, that would be sweet, but how would you power the sending units? Batteries? I guess maybe if TPMS sensor batteries can live for several years, maybe it's possible to work?

hogie roll 10-05-2016 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Clayfan (Post 4488428)
I hope the information is accurate but here in Canada, Suzuki, Corp. anyway does not have a great following.

This is after the flawed shared models for a few years between them and Kawasaki in the MX and Off Road Motorcycle line and another decision a few years later to pull completely out of the Automotive Business in Canada. I guess these are business decisions made by guys and gals at the top of the food chain. But they really screwed over some Dealers up here and the Customer base in general leaving them with Orphan Vehicles and no access to OEM parts.

Nice job Suzuki.

They seem to have a radically better reputation for outboards than in any other market they are in.

Jolley 10-05-2016 12:12 PM

Someone needs to build 500hp x 500tq at 500lbs......................... That will be a game changer :):)

Swamplizard 10-05-2016 12:16 PM

I'll take 3
Let's design a bracket for my 42" beast and I'll sell the Arneson ASD8s and the BBC 454s (cast iron doesnt belong in a salt water boat anyway).:hijack::food-smiley-007:

Slippery 10-05-2016 12:20 PM

Didn't Suzuki sorta pioneer the dual plug head thing on OB's back in the 80's ?

Indy 10-05-2016 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4488238)
Would love drive trim and tab trim indicators to be Wifi connect. No holes nor cables. It is 2016.

It's inevitable, it's called innovation and progress.

SB 10-05-2016 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4488549)
It's inevitable, it's called innovation and progress.

Yes, I understand. But before I die would be nice. LOL.

hogie roll 10-05-2016 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Jolley (Post 4488540)
Someone needs to build 500hp x 500tq at 500lbs......................... That will be a game changer :):)

Tall order. You could build the motor in a seven for 1000hp at 1000lbs but idk if the lower would hold up.

hogie roll 10-05-2016 04:36 PM

May have been trolled

Brandonb_05 10-05-2016 11:12 PM

Bring compression ratios up, run high octane fuel, and reprogram the ECM. But there goes reliability
And the lower unit haha

Bad Ass TA WS6 10-06-2016 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Clayfan (Post 4488428)
I hope the information is accurate but here in Canada, Suzuki, Corp. anyway does not have a great following.

This is after the flawed shared models for a few years between them and Kawasaki in the MX and Off Road Motorcycle line and another decision a few years later to pull completely out of the Automotive Business in Canada. I guess these are business decisions made by guys and gals at the top of the food chain. But they really screwed over some Dealers up here and the Customer base in general leaving them with Orphan Vehicles and no access to OEM parts.

Nice job Suzuki.

They went through some bankruptcy in 2011 or so if I remember. Also pulled factory support for the racing teams etc. I know when that happened the whole product line suffered. At the same time Arctic Cat disbanded from their use of Suzuki engines/power which they have used since their inception. Kinda fell apart... I love the GSXR line of sportbikes, but same thing they havent changed much since 2009 on the bike and are waaaaay behind. The new details on the upcoming model just dropped and I hope its a game changer as they have always been king of the streets... That said I know nothing of their outboard lineup, but it seems after the bankruptcy they are headed in the right direction. Just took some time to find that direction and a head of steam

Jolley 10-06-2016 09:38 AM

******WE HAVE BEEN TROLLED******

From the original poster on THT--- He made it all up !!!!!!!!


"Thought of this days ago and threw it together and posted in about 30 minutes of downtime between phone calls, and yes, this is a spoof, but I tried to include things that many of you have asked for over the years and yes, I may have stretched it with Wi-Fi and TopCharge and somehow started a battle of the computer geeks over the Wi-Fi portion.

Regardless of the bruised egos in the OCD outboard worshiping crowd, has anyone ever sat back and thought if it's possible to have a constructive thread that doesn't bash fresh ideas, changes in technology or brands on this site?

I'm sure this thread had eyes from Zuke and other manufactures and let's just hope they push the envelope on technology and product offerings for future releases as we as consumers in this competitive environment win and ultimately advance our boating enjoyment. Heck, remember when 7 Marine first launched their motor and everyone poo-pooed it and here they are years later still pushing the envelope forward.

Zuke - if you are watching this thread, I'm looking for a job and would be happy to work for you in a marketing or sales capacity."

Bad Ass TA WS6 10-06-2016 09:40 AM

LOL. Must be snowing already somewhere

hogie roll 10-06-2016 04:10 PM

Yeah. He took advantage of the persistent speculation that zuke will come out with something bigger. They teased a 300+ years ago.

Indy 10-06-2016 05:54 PM

Seems like they have they clowns over there too.

SB 10-06-2016 06:04 PM

Can someone still build wifi position sensors for drives and tabs, lol

Flightplan 10-06-2016 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4489160)
Seems like they have they clowns over there too.

I had to report you to the authorities for saying the word "clown". Shame on you in these sensitive times.

Speedracer29 10-06-2016 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Flightplan (Post 4489203)
I had to report you to the authorities for saying the word "clown". Shame on you in these sensitive times.

It all starts with thread trolling, and before you know it, boom! CLOWNPOCOLYPSE!

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/loca...09990289-story


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