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precisiondetails 10-10-2016 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by CrownLPX (Post 4490065)
I'm not a pro. I don't have access to "pro" product. But I did take a tremendous amount of time in researching what product to use, how to apply, and how to extend results.

A painted boat with clear is just like a car. The clear gets bombarded with contaminants and gets swirl marks. No different than a car that needs paint restoration to restore the finish, remove swirl marks, and protect it from the elements. In short, there is a process that needs to be followed and there are a ton of great POLYMER products on the market. Here is what I bought and used. I was blown away with the quality, ease of application, and end result. Before anything, I clayed the entire boat from the chine to the deck. Yes, it took a long time. But now that it is done I'll be maintaining it and not having to go through the entire process in the spring.

http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-swirl-kit.html

Collinite 845 is a great sealant. I was going to use it after I used the Wolfgang sealant as that is a process many use. Some people apply two coats of the Wolfgang sealant. I ended up only needing one and I was done but I do have a bottle of 845 on the shelf if I decide to give it a try.

You all can get pro products, just not over the counter... I posted a link to the site you can order direct from there

max930 10-10-2016 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4490068)
You all can get pro products, just not over the counter... I posted a link to the site you can order direct from there

Yep. Either online or google auto body supply stores in your area.

Another thing. With the higher end polisher/sander variable speed tools won't work well with consumer products.

Taboma 10-10-2016 11:12 AM

Precision, I looked at your site. So what do you recommend for a painted boat (Spies Hecker paint)?

precisiondetails 10-10-2016 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Taboma (Post 4490099)
Precision, I looked at your site. So what do you recommend for a painted boat (Spies Hecker paint)?

Bead Maker and Challenger Marine Wax. As well as Paint gloss.

There are different factors in all 3 products.

Bead Maker- easy to use spray on wipe off but to use properly it's a full spray coating not just a mist and wipe cleaner like paint gloss would be. This is actually a sealer product and is a hydrophobic coating. The way it works is after you spray on and wipe off, in about 1-2 hours it sets up and hardens.

Paint Gloss- used the same way as Bead Maker but it's still like your classic showroom shine detail spray. Used for up keep, it has polymiers but is not a "coating" like bead maker.

Challenger Wax- is the synthetic sealer that is going to hold up long term in the marine environment which is way different then cars of course. Now I have tested Driven side by side with this stuff and I used to always use driven but now I have financial interest in P&S. Lol... By all means Driven is still awesome, I did say hold up the same. I will tell you the unique difference tho- Driven is easier to use when in sun and warm weather, but Challenger somehow someway is eaier to use when it's cold like most waxes. Anyone that has seen Fred with Drivens demo he does make an incredibly good product for the sun and heat. But for some reason when it's winter or chilly it cakes up pretty bad.

Hope this all helps you guys. I'm not just trying to boast my product but also want to help you all understand the variables as well.

Speedracer29 10-10-2016 03:02 PM

This is where Totally Buff, Vitreo, and covered storage has gotten my gelcoat:
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...psbjlhl7qg.jpg

I usually 2 bucket wash everything. Still want to keep swirls to a minimum, so which polish do you recommend From P&S?
Ultracoat or Challenger Wax for the truck AND boat as a sealer?
I've been happy with Vitreo on the truck, boat, and bike, but I'm open to suggestions.

precisiondetails 10-10-2016 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Speedracer29 (Post 4490183)
This is where Totally Buff, Vitreo, and covered storage has gotten my gelcoat:
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...psbjlhl7qg.jpg

I usually 2 bucket wash everything. Still want to keep swirls to a minimum, so which polish do you recommend From P&S?
Ultracoat or Challenger Wax for the truck AND boat as a sealer?
I've been happy with Vitreo on the truck, boat, and bike, but I'm open to suggestions.

Well are you looking for more of a polish or wax & protectant?

Polish- ultra coat polish/full throttle
Wax- Challenger
Cars and clear coat- ultra coat paint sealant
Boats sealer is the challenger cause of the marine environment weather clear or gel

buck35 10-10-2016 07:33 PM

Maybe you answered this already, but what do you recommend for gel surfaces, as the website only talks paint?:readinghelp:

precisiondetails 10-10-2016 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by buck35 (Post 4490261)
Maybe you answered this already, but what do you recommend for gel surfaces, as the website only talks paint?:readinghelp:

The challenger wax, bead maker, and paint gloss

See my long post above

buck35 10-10-2016 08:08 PM

Thank you sir!
My li'l black boat thanks you as well.:)

precisiondetails 10-10-2016 09:44 PM

FYI- free shipping on all orders of $150 and more. My buddy Vinny Riffice who some on here may know, he has a skater and manny nice cars, he really loves our stuff. He just made an order today. Also as you can see NASCAT likes it too. And let me tell you- for him to like it says something. Lol

precisiondetails 10-10-2016 09:48 PM

On another note- we do offer training and instruction on all our products as well as just helping with your skills and making you more efficient.

You all can either PM me or call or email me with any questions, always willing to help out and explain things especially on what those specific boat line gimmick products try to tell you. I won't name names.

[email protected]
916-837-1379

Chad

Text ok too

MonkeySea2 10-11-2016 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by eightsecmopar (Post 4489305)
Collinite Fleet Wax.....Been using it for years.

My fiberglass guy recommended Collinite boat wax. It is now my favorite! It leaves a deep, wet looking shine and easy to use. Love it!! My 2007 black gelcoat still looks brand new

Cash Bar 10-11-2016 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4490017)

"AVATAR updated as you anticipated :cool-smiley-027:

I just threw up a little. Ugh

Cash Bar 10-11-2016 01:35 PM

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Chad, the Skater needs a complete setup after sitting on Ron's lift for 3 months before I bought it.

Can you give me the full breakdown of what I need? What do you think is best to put on the transom and how much? Remember, it has about 3 gazillion colors. LOL

precisiondetails 10-11-2016 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 4490489)
Chad, the Skater needs a complete setup after sitting on Ron's lift for 3 months before I bought it.

Can you give me the full breakdown of what I need? What do you think is best to put on the transom and how much? Remember, it has about 3 gazillion colors. LOL


Exterior-
Challenger wax
Paint Gloss
Bead Maker

Interior-
Xpress interior cleaner
Natural finish dressing/conditioner

You can call me if you would like I know you have my number. Lol

Get some insanity towels too, they are amazing, then get some Costco microfiber a to do all the dirty work.

skate 10-11-2016 05:01 PM

Ok I've got a question. What can you put on the deck to protect and shine without creating a death trap. I waxed my sides before Key West last year with some spray on wipe off wax from my car Detailer which worked fine. Only problem was the mist over spray on the deck made it slicker than Owl S#*+. I like to have killed myself and any one who dared to walk on it that week.

jmoore1225 10-11-2016 05:27 PM

Precision, Do they typically go on in that order on the exterior?

precisiondetails 10-12-2016 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by skate (Post 4490554)
Ok I've got a question. What can you put on the deck to protect and shine without creating a death trap. I waxed my sides before Key West last year with some spray on wipe off wax from my car Detailer which worked fine. Only problem was the mist over spray on the deck made it slicker than Owl S#*+. I like to have killed myself and any one who dared to walk on it that week.

Well that's a tough one. Those things kind of go together.

precisiondetails 10-12-2016 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by jmoore1225 (Post 4490565)
Precision, Do they typically go on in that order on the exterior?

Not really an order thing. As I'm not speaking at all about correction, just maintenance and up keep

buck35 10-12-2016 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by skate (Post 4490554)
Ok I've got a question. What can you put on the deck to protect and shine without creating a death trap. I waxed my sides before Key West last year with some spray on wipe off wax from my car Detailer which worked fine. Only problem was the mist over spray on the deck made it slicker than Owl S#*+. I like to have killed myself and any one who dared to walk on it that week.

How about that material they sell for toolbox liners. Comes in 10 or 15 foot rolls . Its really clingy, but a rubber or latex that shouldn't mar the finish.

edit in , it may actually be sold as shelf liner , I think I bought it at costco.

skate 10-13-2016 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by buck35 (Post 4490758)
How about that material they sell for toolbox liners. Comes in 10 or 15 foot rolls . Its really clingy, but a rubber or latex that shouldn't mar the finish.

edit in , it may actually be sold as shelf liner , I think I bought it at costco.

I have memory foam mats to throw across the boat when tied up, but I'm talking about when your at the dock tieing up or washing down! I busted my butt in KW last year, but then I also stepped on a pop top and blew out a flip flop there that day!

BigSilverCat 10-13-2016 02:23 PM

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How about water beading on the deck of the boat in the shape of the skater logo? Ceramic Pro coating. Water beads pretty good on it. And they tell me I will never have to wax it. Just water hose off anything that is on it (scum line, spider dots, salt water spots, ect.).

https://youtu.be/Rv57cRMdBKw

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Interceptor 10-13-2016 04:20 PM

Nonskid in some areas make a lot of sense.

buck35 10-13-2016 05:15 PM

How about a pair of dedicated deck shoes that dont leave the boat . Slip on off and ready for the next go around.

SB 10-13-2016 05:40 PM

IMHO: Dry bare feet get the best grip...outside of non skid.

skate 10-13-2016 06:43 PM

Yes I'm a bare feet only guy. Problem arises when jumping upon the deck to tie off if it's wet or boarding and disembarking passengers. Also when hosing it down your feet are always wet and you down dare use a soap or Salt-a-way. I have not waxed the deck only the sides since I painted it. I use a spray on UV protectant on the deck and upholstery which really make it shine but is not slippery.

I would love to find a wax to put on the deck for more protection that will not make it slippery.

buck35 10-13-2016 11:47 PM

:DHmmmm, non slip wax, mustache wax maybe. Bikini wax! Your best bet are some hockey pads.

ICDEDPPL 10-15-2016 10:46 AM

You guys are doing it all wrong.
ONCE A YEAR POLISH!!

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...49158677-4.jpg

It`s bullet resistant.

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...35828749-3.jpg


Increases your speed if put on bottom

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s11...42536199-3.jpg


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s5/...62256853-3.jpg


Grill proof

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-2/p450608903-3.jpg


Makes your truck pull like a semi!

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s6/...61934163-3.jpg


Wax your drive gears for 76.4% less parasitic drive loss!!


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s5/...37716802-3.jpg

Chick MAGNET!!

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...57871724-4.jpg


Kid friendly and Gluten free!


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s5/...45579308-3.jpg


Coat the inside of your fuel tanks for double the fuel mileage!!

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s1/...14314867-3.jpg


Wax your engine .. more power!!


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...87049423-5.jpg


Beads like crazy


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...52709975-4.jpg

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s4/v63/p51931815-4.jpg


Mild thunder and Cowboy approved

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s1/...03118418-3.jpg



Once a year!!


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s9/...48154883-4.jpg
http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s6/...52706565-4.jpg


Don`t text me with any questions, just go to your local autoparts store or order now for just $$$19.99!!
ORDER within the next few minutes and we`ll double your ORDER!!!

*plus shipping and handling.
* this message has not been approved by the National Polish Association

Speedracer29 10-15-2016 10:55 AM

^^^^^^^^^^ Judging by these facetious claims, use of a respirator is recommended during application to avoid "lightheadedness"... Not to mention he hasn't had any kids since he started using it....coincidence? I think not.

buck35 10-15-2016 12:16 PM

Is that aluminum on that grinding wheel. Bad dog no biscuits for you!
great pics though, thanks. None on the props, lol

ICDEDPPL 10-15-2016 01:19 PM

Ahh yes I did forget the props.

With Nu Finish you will not need to add any extra cup to your props any longer, those days are over.

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...74753648-3.jpg

ICDEDPPL 10-15-2016 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4490171)
Bead Maker and Challenger Marine Wax. As well as Paint gloss.

There are different factors in all 3 products.

Bead Maker- easy to use spray on wipe off but to use properly it's a full spray coating not just a mist and wipe cleaner like paint gloss would be. This is actually a sealer product and is a hydrophobic coating. The way it works is after you spray on and wipe off, in about 1-2 hours it sets up and hardens.

Paint Gloss- used the same way as Bead Maker but it's still like your classic showroom shine detail spray. Used for up keep, it has polymiers but is not a "coating" like bead maker.

Challenger Wax- is the synthetic sealer that is going to hold up long term in the marine environment which is way different then cars of course. Now I have tested Driven side by side with this stuff and I used to always use driven but now I have financial interest in P&S. Lol... By all means Driven is still awesome, I did say hold up the same. I will tell you the unique difference tho- Driven is easier to use when in sun and warm weather, but Challenger somehow someway is eaier to use when it's cold like most waxes. Anyone that has seen Fred with Drivens demo he does make an incredibly good product for the sun and heat. But for some reason when it's winter or chilly it cakes up pretty bad.

Hope this all helps you guys. I'm not just trying to boast my product but also want to help you all understand the variables as well.

I like the sound of this product . Thoughts on monthly waxing.. I need something easy on/off. (unlike collonite)

http://psdetailproducts.com/i-167493...t-sealant.html

Can I use the Bead Maker as a wipe down after pulling the boat out, (frequent use) or this http://psdetailproducts.com/i-175406...spray-wax.html

??

precisiondetails 10-15-2016 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4491763)
I like the sound of this product . Thoughts on monthly waxing.. I need something easy on/off. (unlike collonite)

http://psdetailproducts.com/i-167493...t-sealant.html

Can I use the Bead Maker as a wipe down after pulling the boat out, (frequent use) or this http://psdetailproducts.com/i-175406...spray-wax.html

??

For cars use that paint sealant, for boats use our challenger wax.

As for the 2nd question- you can use bead maker as a wipe down spray. I use paint gloss for quick wipe downs cause the point of the product is you don't need to really coat your surface. The bead maker is a spray on wipe off protectant. So you really want to coat it on. The way it works is after you wipe it off, in about an hour it sets up and hardens. It is hydrophobic so it does not like water. Thus the name bead maker.

Bead Maker is on our front page
Paint Gloss part # C5001 for a gallon

We also have the spray bottles to go with all our products.

jponfrank 10-15-2016 04:53 PM

How does bead maker compare to chemical guys V7. Been using that for years with great results. Willing to give anything a try once.

precisiondetails 10-15-2016 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by jponfrank (Post 4491804)
How does bead maker compare to chemical guys V7. Been using that for years with great results. Willing to give anything a try once.


I wish I could give an honest answer to that. But I've never tried their product. How does it work? What is its purpose?

NASCAT 10-15-2016 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4491705)
You guys are doing it all wrong.
ONCE A YEAR POLISH!!

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...49158677-4.jpg

It`s bullet resistant.

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...35828749-3.jpg


Increases your speed if put on bottom

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s11...42536199-3.jpg


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s5/...62256853-3.jpg


Grill proof

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-2/p450608903-3.jpg


Makes your truck pull like a semi!

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s6/...61934163-3.jpg


Wax your drive gears for 76.4% less parasitic drive loss!!


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s5/...37716802-3.jpg

Chick MAGNET!!

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...57871724-4.jpg


Kid friendly and Gluten free!


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s5/...45579308-3.jpg


Coat the inside of your fuel tanks for double the fuel mileage!!

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s1/...14314867-3.jpg


Wax your engine .. more power!!


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...87049423-5.jpg


Beads like crazy


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s/v...52709975-4.jpg

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s4/v63/p51931815-4.jpg


Mild thunder and Cowboy approved

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s1/...03118418-3.jpg



Once a year!!


http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s9/...48154883-4.jpg
http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s6/...52706565-4.jpg


Don`t text me with any questions, just go to your local autoparts store or order now for just $$$19.99!!
ORDER within the next few minutes and we`ll double your ORDER!!!

*plus shipping and handling.
* this message has not been approved by the National Polish Association

Friggin Hilarious!
You invested some time putting that together, nice work.

baywatch 10-16-2016 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4491873)
Friggin Hilarious!
You invested some time putting that together, nice work.


+1. Great post!! Posts like that are why I look at Oso. Very well played sir.

Jupiter Sunsation 10-16-2016 07:41 AM

Anyone else look at this thread title and wonder if it was about wax made in Poland?


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