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plon9mike 10-06-2016 11:18 AM

Polish/Wax
 
Fellow boaters

I wanting to know what is the best wax you use to keep your boat looking like new if operated in salt water. My boat has a clear-coated finish over the paint, if this help. Trying to establish and maintain my boats shine.

V/R

Mike P.

sp123 10-06-2016 01:09 PM

I have a red and black hull clear coat over paint and always in salt water, I use a regular car wash to clean it 3m light compound to remove scratches and the occasional fender scuffs and I used a polish to bring out the color followed by 3m boat wax to protect it. When it is done it looks great and it is 6 yrs old now. I also use a porter cable buffer and recommended pads for both the wax and compound.

Tahoe540 10-06-2016 03:14 PM

I just got done detailing my used boat and it had some issues. I just used the normal car products I had on hand and I also detail my vehicles and order all of my stuff online from places that sell pro stuff. I also use a porter cable buffer with some good quality pads.
Went from this
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...psvxzcc6ei.jpg
to this
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps3ozwoppa.jpg
I used these products plus 3M compound for the first passes plus some adams butter wax for a final shine.
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...psbvnfa6ui.jpg
Any good quality products will do.
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...psveqrj9by.jpg

minxguy 10-06-2016 05:11 PM

I have been using Collinite Insulator wax,

Easy on...easy off.

Ken

eightsecmopar 10-07-2016 06:34 AM

Collinite Fleet Wax.....Been using it for years.

TW720HVY 10-07-2016 09:02 AM

3M compound and then polish, followed by below.


Originally Posted by eightsecmopar (Post 4489305)
Collinite Fleet Wax.....Been using it for years.

Just started using this as well and I must say so far, so good.

I also wash the boat with Marine31 Gel Coat Wash & Wax with Carnauba, and before I dry it I apply Griot's Garage Spray On Wax. Seems to be keeping the shine and protection up on the lift.

plon9mike 10-07-2016 09:50 AM

Guys
Thanks for all your inputs, this will help maintain my boat to showroom condiction.

Mike P.

ALL_IN! 10-07-2016 12:19 PM

Fleet Wax is great for lake boats too. The brown stain just wipes right off with a damp towel.


Originally Posted by eightsecmopar (Post 4489305)
Collinite Fleet Wax.....Been using it for years.


WHIPLASH 10-07-2016 06:53 PM

Any wax will melt off with the suns rays faster than a sealer/protectant. Collonite was the best I used until I found Mirage by Prism polish ( Prism is their metal polish, which I started using 1st on my exhaust through transom pipes and highly recommend as well). Mirage is not a wax but a polymer. The owner demonstrated the heat lamp with Collonite and Mirage and after 1/2 hour the Mirage was still like teflon and deep shine and the wax was pretty much melted off. I only need to apply once a year to the boat, including black on the deck, and it lasts , shines and repels. I use it on my cars and motorcycles as well.
There are also other sealant/protectant products out there that probably do as well but I am not familiar with them.

GO4BROKE 10-07-2016 07:49 PM

Vitreo by fountain of youth. Super easy on and off, even in the sun. Wicked deep shine.

ROB FREEMAN 10-07-2016 08:05 PM

Can vitreo still be gotten ? I'm just about all out :-(

Speedracer29 10-07-2016 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by GO4BROKE (Post 4489559)
Vitreo by fountain of youth. Super easy on and off, even in the sun. Wicked deep shine.

Bought it for the boat, now I use it on everything.

Speedracer29 10-07-2016 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by ROB FREEMAN (Post 4489562)
Can vitreo still be gotten ? I'm just about all out :-(

http://www.fountainofyouthrestore.co..._-_Vitreo.html

Click "purchase" and log into PayPal. I'm ordering a couple quarts for me and some pints for stocking stuffers because the shipping ain't cheap, might as well make it count.

BenPerfected 10-07-2016 08:27 PM

We started just toweling our clear coated deck because we have to walk on the bow. For me, the last bit of perfectly buffed bow shine isn't worth the risk of falling.

ROB FREEMAN 10-07-2016 09:15 PM

Thanks. I thought they went out of business. Or were feuding with other partners. Or something. I love that vitreo

ROB FREEMAN 10-07-2016 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by BenPerfected (Post 4489573)
We started just toweling our clear coated deck because we have to walk on the bow. For me, the last bit of perfectly buffed bow shine isn't worth the risk of of falling.

That ain't no joke. Dam head hits the boat . Body not far behind. Lol. Talk about embarrassing chit rite there :-))))

precisiondetails 10-07-2016 11:01 PM

Man where do I start with this thread? Lol...

Carnuba is no good for boats, synthetic waxes will be the only wax that holds up long term. We make many cool products. We are not just a single line that we hope someone likes. For example- we make 20 different dressings about 10 waxes and 5-10 all purpose cleaners. We have been around since 1961. We have always just sold to the pros like shops, dealers, body shops, car washes mainly commercial sales.

Check out and Google- P&S Detailing Products

ToMorrow44 10-08-2016 07:39 AM

I use Presta Products for all my detailing. Their cutting compounds are awesome and they sell the buffing pads to match the compounds, makes it really easy. I use their marine uv creme wax and seems to work very well. A little pricey but really good stuff.

NASCAT 10-08-2016 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4489611)
Man where do I start with this thread? Lol...

Carnuba is no good for boats, synthetic waxes will be the only wax that holds up long term. We make many cool products. We are not just a single line that we hope someone likes. For example- we make 20 different dressings about 10 waxes and 5-10 all purpose cleaners. We have been around since 1961. We have always just sold to the pros like shops, dealers, body shops, car washes mainly commercial sales.

Check out and Google- P&S Detailing Products

I've had good results w/ the Driven Wax you turned me on to. My boat is stored indoors so a good coat of Driven followed by occassional P&S spray on quick detail keeps it looking shiny, slick and the water beading. Very happy w/ the products you turned me on to.

precisiondetails 10-08-2016 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4489720)
I've had good results w/ the Driven Wax you turned me on to. My boat is stored indoors so a good coat of Driven followed by occassional P&S spray on quick detail keeps it looking shiny, slick and the water beading. Very happy w/ the products you turned me on to.

Thanks Mike, now you have to try a product we just came out with a few months ago. It's called Bead Maker. And yes the driven is the best non P&S product. Of course we don't really sell to the public so people aren't as familiar with it. But there is a huge difference between over the counter and professional product.

Powerquest230 10-08-2016 03:40 PM

Would this be a good time to bring up Leverage vs the world of other products? That discussion is usually as good as Apache vs the world in 6' seas, or Fountains vs every boat 4' shorter without a beak....

Sorry, first day off work in a month and the gulf is too churned up from Mathew for boating (I need an Apache).

Back to being serious in my derail- prayers to all impacted by Mathew

tjny 10-08-2016 07:52 PM

Another collonite fleetwax user here

buck35 10-08-2016 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4489725)
Thanks Mike, now you have to try a product we just came out with a few months ago. It's called Bead Maker. And yes the driven is the best non P&S product. Of course we don't really sell to the public so people aren't as familiar with it. But there is a huge difference between over the counter and professional product.

Is the product difficult to use , or is it another issue, as not selling to the public?

Ghost24 10-08-2016 08:15 PM

There's a school of thought that what's most important isn't which wax you use, but that you use it. I know a lot of folks who just don't wax enough. I'm a fan of 2-3 waxings per season here in the mid-Atlantic. Has done well. I've used the 3M Marine Wax and been happy. Only adding the lightest of their grit products when needed, which has been rare.

precisiondetails 10-08-2016 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by buck35 (Post 4489781)
Is the product difficult to use , or is it another issue, as not selling to the public?

The pro grade product is actually way easier to use. If only the public knew how garbage the over the counter stuff was... The pros have to have easier more efficient product to use, their time and $$ and livelihood are on the line.

We don't focus on the public much, heck we even sell Meguires stuff that is pro line, not over the counter Walmart/west marine garbage. It's a whole different animal like night and day

Before I sold the product, I had a detail business for 12 years.

Pez Man 10-09-2016 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4489720)
I've had good results w/ the Driven Wax you turned me on to. My boat is stored indoors so a good coat of Driven followed by occassional P&S spray on quick detail keeps it looking shiny, slick and the water beading. Very happy w/ the products you turned me on to.

I also use this product. Works great, lasts, and is easy to use.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...pscudv3rlp.jpg

Ryan00TJ 10-09-2016 09:22 AM

Collinite marine fiberglass here.

1stoutlaw 10-09-2016 09:59 AM

3 coats of "Nu-finish" a year !!!!!

sutphen 30 10-09-2016 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4489801)
The pro grade product is actually way easier to use. If only the public knew how garbage the over the counter stuff was... The pros have to have easier more efficient product to use, their time and $$ and livelihood are on the line.

We don't focus on the public much, heck we even sell Meguires stuff that is pro line, not over the counter Walmart/west marine garbage. It's a whole different animal like night and day

Before I sold the product, I had a detail business for 12 years.

then why does my collinited boat stay water beading all season long?I only do it in the late spring.cleaner then wax,,good to go.use it on my cars and truck too.

precisiondetails 10-09-2016 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4489870)
then why does my collinited boat stay water beading all season long?I only do it in the late spring.cleaner then wax,,good to go.use it on my cars and truck too.


I never said other stuff didn't work, I said what we are about and what people who do it for a living use is different.

And garbage in comparison to the pro grade stuff... And I will say most isn't as good, not all.

vintage chromoly 10-09-2016 11:46 AM

So, is this "pro grade", not available to the public, stuff available the the membership here?

If not, why bring it up?

If so, where do we get it?

buck35 10-09-2016 12:51 PM

That was the jist of my question earlier. My guess is we buy a quart, not a 5 gallon bucket... but maybe we're just not worthy. Lol

27Fountain 10-09-2016 01:07 PM

Driven Marine Polish last as long as anything I have tried. Easy to work with.

max930 10-09-2016 01:22 PM

My uncle is in the auto body business. So I get pro 3m stuff or Meguiar's via his suppliers. The major difference from consumer products is the pro stuff is designed for use with pro buffer machines. The consumer products are fine on newer finishes. But older stuff the pro stuff brings it back to new better then regular consumer products.

precisiondetails 10-09-2016 01:36 PM

Here it is fellas a direct link, by all means check it out.

http://psdetailproducts.com

Zach F100 10-09-2016 07:34 PM

Funny that no one has mentioned Performance Boat Candy yet. Maybe I should be looking for a new product.

What product is recommended for washing the boat after applying the Ultracoat Paint Sealant? What about a quick detailer spray between waxes and how often??

precisiondetails 10-09-2016 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Zach F100 (Post 4489958)
Funny that no one has mentioned Performance Boat Candy yet. Maybe I should be looking for a new product.

What product is recommended for washing the boat after applying the Ultracoat Paint Sealant? What about a quick detailer spray between waxes and how often??

Yes use the spray every time you pull the boat out of the water and wipe down. Wax when scum lines don't easily wipe off with just your finger.

NASCAT 10-10-2016 06:55 AM

May hit you up later in the week so you can assist me w/ putting an order together.

"AVATAR updated as you anticipated :cool-smiley-027:

Gimme Fuel 10-10-2016 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Zach F100 (Post 4489958)
Funny that no one has mentioned Performance Boat Candy yet. Maybe I should be looking for a new product.

What product is recommended for washing the boat after applying the Ultracoat Paint Sealant? What about a quick detailer spray between waxes and how often??

I tried their kit. Didn't work any better than plain ole Starbrite PTEF wax and Turtle Wax Detailer/Spray wax. Wasn't impressed enough to go out of my way and order it versus pick the other cheaper crap up at Wally World.

Sunny32SSR 10-10-2016 09:03 AM

I'm not a pro. I don't have access to "pro" product. But I did take a tremendous amount of time in researching what product to use, how to apply, and how to extend results.

A painted boat with clear is just like a car. The clear gets bombarded with contaminants and gets swirl marks. No different than a car that needs paint restoration to restore the finish, remove swirl marks, and protect it from the elements. In short, there is a process that needs to be followed and there are a ton of great POLYMER products on the market. Here is what I bought and used. I was blown away with the quality, ease of application, and end result. Before anything, I clayed the entire boat from the chine to the deck. Yes, it took a long time. But now that it is done I'll be maintaining it and not having to go through the entire process in the spring.

http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-swirl-kit.html

Collinite 845 is a great sealant. I was going to use it after I used the Wolfgang sealant as that is a process many use. Some people apply two coats of the Wolfgang sealant. I ended up only needing one and I was done but I do have a bottle of 845 on the shelf if I decide to give it a try.


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