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Old 02-24-2003, 08:48 PM
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Old 02-25-2003, 10:21 AM
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It looks like the Cigarette owner were letting Apache owners have their day. But when Apache owners start bashing Cigarettes, Cigarette owners will let te truth be known

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Old 02-25-2003, 11:21 AM
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So, whos going to annswer my question? What year was the last championship won by an Apache?
Fred IS the voice of reason.....
answer....1984...19 years ago
THIS IS INCORRECT...BETTER DO YOUR HOMEWORK! And remember the waters they used to run in, TRUE testing of construction!

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WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!!!!!
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:12 PM
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Fortunately, I’m not old enough to forget everything yet but, still old enough to remember when Offshore Racing was still raced ummmmmm..............can you say OFFSHORE! Maybe these boats were running so far ummmmm................OFFSHORE that no one saw them but, here are a few facts I can still remember;

1997 Superboat World Champion
41’ Apache / Lipship

1993 Superboat World Champion
47’ Apache / Heritage

1993 “D” Class US Offshore World Champion
41’ Apache / J&H Electric

1992 Superboat World Champion
47’ Apache / Heritage

1992 US 1 Superboat National Champion
45’ Apache / Kid Apache

1991 APBA Open National Champion
41’ Apache / Dollar Marine

1990 APBA Open National Champion
41’ Apache / Dollar Marine

1989 Superboat World Champion
47’ Apache / Little Caesar’s Pizza

1988 APBA Modified World Champion
41’ Apache / Little Caesar’s Pizza

1986 APBA US 1 National Champion
41’ Apache Catamaran / Team Apache (Saccenti, Kramer)

1984 APBA World Champion
41’ Apache / Warpath (Saccenti, Kramer)

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How many of these boats were built by Bobby? I don`t have a great depth of knowledge on Apache history, just a question.
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:32 PM
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Glad to see the Eric has done his homework and knows the facts!
 
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:33 PM
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Roger,

That post is not about who built what, only that Apache Powerboats have won more World & National Titles than was given mention to previously in this thread. And I’m sure I’ve forgotten a few.
 
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1997 Superboat World Champion 41’ Apache / Lipship
IS THIS THE SAME "PHIL LIPSHULTZ (SP?) THAT IS THE CIGARETTE DEALER?
 
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:43 PM
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In my opinion, many of todays boats wouldn't last in true offshore racing...for instance, the Cigarette "Yachts International" would more than likely break up before it finished a "TRUE" Miami to Bimini and back race...so where is the actual testing? There is none, just drag racing in a circle. MILLIONS of dollars went into the Apache program were they were "TESTED" and perfected in "Real" offshore conditions...Apache doesn't brag about TOP END smooth water speed, they are seeking out the customer who wants something strong, comfortable and performs FANFKNTASTIC in big seas. Ride in any other boat, then jump into an Apache - same day, same seas - and then YOU be the judge!
TooOld - you should know, you have one of the REAL Cigarettes that set their standards back then!

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