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Old 04-10-2017 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasted Income
Well a Sunsation F4 is *kinda* like a 38PP
F4 seems to be a faster hull but it chine walked a little at top speed, the Powerplay was rock solid but keep in mind it was almost 20 mph slower (400 less HP) than the Powerplay I drove. The PP has an old school feel to it, everything was square, look like the gauges were installed with a hole saw in a flat dash. The F4 was something out of Star Trek by comparison with a ton of CNC parts.
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Old 04-10-2017 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
F4 seems to be a faster hull but it chine walked a little at top speed, the Powerplay was rock solid but keep in mind it was almost 20 mph slower (400 less HP) than the Powerplay I drove. The PP has an old school feel to it, everything was square, look like the gauges were installed with a hole saw in a flat dash. The F4 was something out of Star Trek by comparison with a ton of CNC parts.
F-4 is a 5-step hull vs.2 on the PP plus some other changes to the bottom. I never experienced any chine-walk in the F-4. Don't remember Teague making any mention of it either in his review. The only recognizable carryover from the PP to the F-4 is the cabin liner. Otherwise you would never know the F-4 buck started as a 38 PP hull/deck.
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Old 04-10-2017 | 01:36 PM
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The boat at fast boats isn't as clean as temper tantrum. Still a great looking boat though!
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Old 04-10-2017 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
That was my buddy's boat new and I posted it on OSO as he was going to trade it, Steve showed up the next day with the F650 and a myco and took her home!
We ran the crap all of it out of Port Everglades, kept at the OSO office on State Road 84 and than headed to Maryland to his brother's house.
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Old 04-10-2017 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me
F-4 is a 5-step hull vs.2 on the PP plus some other changes to the bottom. I never experienced any chine-walk in the F-4. Don't remember Teague making any mention of it either in his review. The only recognizable carryover from the PP to the F-4 is the cabin liner. Otherwise you would never know the F-4 buck started as a 38 PP hull/deck.
? There's pics in the PP section in a thread accounting for all 38s.

Sure looks like 2' added behind the steps plus a 3' swim platform.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...es-o68191.html
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Old 04-10-2017 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hogie roll
? There's pics in the PP section in a thread accounting for all 38s.

Sure looks like 2' added behind the steps plus a 3' swim platform.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...es-o68191.html
Mentalpause still has pics from the build of the buck. The build used to be documented on Sunsation's website before it's demise. Hull sides were cut out and swapped side to side, the hull cut in half and lengthened, a 32 SS nose was grafted on to the front, additional steps added, integrated swim platform added, new fairing, dash pods built, 3 piece interior liner made into a single mold, etc., etc., etc. When the boat was first discussed eons ago, it was supposed to be a 36. Then it grew to a 38 or 39. Then the PP was brought into the picture. Then dealer input grew it even further. The first boat was supposed to be a 525/XR boat. It quickly outgrew that combo.
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Old 04-10-2017 | 02:40 PM
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See this thread for the complete list of 38's and a pic of the first F4 http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/p...owerplays.html
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Old 04-10-2017 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me
F-4 is a 5-step hull vs.2 on the PP plus some other changes to the bottom. I never experienced any chine-walk in the F-4. Don't remember Teague making any mention of it either in his review. The only recognizable carryover from the PP to the F-4 is the cabin liner. Otherwise you would never know the F-4 buck started as a 38 PP hull/deck.
The 2 steps that do anything are the same as the Powerplay. The other bow steps really do nothing at speed (they are not even in the water!).

I rode in the factory F4 boat and was aboard when they shot the cover for the brochure. At speed it would rock back and forth noticeably. I did 1/2 that poker run on a 43 NT which rode like a Cadillac and then came back on the F4. The chine walk was very noticeable on the F4 but that was the factory boat and might have been tweaked more than others. As I remember it ran about 104 when new whereas the other boats were 99-100.
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Old 04-10-2017 | 02:49 PM
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at 1:40-1:41 you can see the back and forth even on dead flat water. It may get more pronounced at higher speeds or with the NXT drive vs. bravos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYzHr5e75ew

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Old 04-10-2017 | 03:35 PM
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Lets get this back on track...the Powerplay has absolutely no chine walk at any speed. It also tracks extremely well.
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