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iliveonanisland 10-18-2017 01:35 AM

41 apache easy to own and maintain. Go big or go home

iliveonanisland 10-18-2017 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by racinfast002 (Post 4585999)
Ive seen several for sale with 1500+ hour and great compression still. I don't think there is a magic number for them, but 1000 hours seems not problem for them.

And I feel you on supercharged stuff. I went from twin 625 hp whippled 454's efi's to the scarab with 2 stroke 225 efi's. These are considered "thirsty" motors in the outboard world and I just laugh. Feel like I own a prius now.

no rude 300 v8s are thirsty. Your motors not so much

blacktruck 10-18-2017 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by dezl_dr (Post 4585155)
I kind of didn't want supercharged engines. My ski is supercharged and uses much more fuel than the non charged one. I have to admit the last outboard I had was a 2 stroke mercury and it used as much gas as the 502 inboard I have now. What kind of life is a four stroke good for 1000 hours?

You can't compare your SC jet ski to new outboards, 4 stroke or 2 stroke, they are super efficient and can run over 1,000 hours easily. They are more efficient than stern drives partly because of the engines themselves but twin big blocks weigh, well over 1,100 pounds each, whereas big outboards are 500 to 650 lbs. But, having said that, sounds like you want a go fast, 30 footer. I like singles up to 29 ish but you could go 26 - 28 foot, single engine and it would be better value, a little easier to handle and maintain but still be able to camp out in. Formula 272, Fountain 27 and 29, Powerquest 27, Mirage 257 Trovare, etc. Scarabs are an option but they haven't made good boats for a long time, so they will be pretty old. Go and look at some in those size ranges and go for rides if you can.

F-2 Speedy 10-18-2017 12:16 PM

How's Paradise RM..........:ernaehrung004:

dezl_dr 10-18-2017 06:25 PM

Thanks for all the advice, it's appreciated. Saying going fast in this group puts the price tag way out of my range. But yea, top speed of 65-70 would be great. I really just wanted two motors for the one to bring me home if I have one fail. I've had a jetski leave me 15 miles from the dock and that was no fun. I have a little river jet boat now with a 502 in it, the fuel it uses isn't bad at all. But it has no use in rough water, even a big lake is too much for it. The thoughts of island hopping and spending a few days at a time on lake Cumberland have me looking.

Tractionless 10-22-2017 09:39 AM

Those Scarab engine bays are VERY tight to work in. The crossing to Bimini is actually best to make in summer when it is flatter and a Apache ($) isn't needed. I haven't made it yet but I'd be comfortable doing so in my '96 Baja 302. They sell in the $30k range, on plane as low as 25 mph, most efficient cruise speed 42 mph, will touch 65 mph top end, 150 gallon tank. Check Baja's thoroughly for rot, they're known for poor sealing at the factory.

dezl_dr 10-22-2017 06:08 PM

The performance sounds perfect to me. What kind of MPG at 42 MPH? I just want to know what to look for and the wood rot certainly is something I want avoid. I've had fixer upper boat before and they always take twice the work and money I thought going in.

Tractionless 10-22-2017 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by dezl_dr (Post 4589409)
The performance sounds perfect to me. What kind of MPG at 42 MPH? I just want to know what to look for and the wood rot certainly is something I want avoid. I've had fixer upper boat before and they always take twice the work and money I thought going in.

Mine has '96 7.4 LX Mpi's, while haven't figured MPG I get 24 running hours to 3/4 tank. That's around 35 mph cruise typically. Good info and test video here https://www.boattest.com/result/Baja/Any_Type/Any_Size


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