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Originally Posted by jusabum
(Post 4616402)
I have a passion for the sport, and yes, I have raced. But somebody who is active in the sport "shouldn't" automatically qualify as the best guy to make it happen, as a person with an understanding of how to market, promote and generate excitement is what is needed. (if thats where your Q came from)....and that is what I see as part of the issue. A great boat mechanic doesn't necessarily make the best boat dealer - two separate roles.
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Originally Posted by speicher lane
(Post 4616590)
Resorts World would have gone through the same business evaluation - hell, every team on paved track or on the water goes through this process justifying the expenditure of Racing vs. what they are personally getting out of the venture.
. A very good friend had lived in S. Florida his whole life (53 yrs old) and never had been to the Bahamas. So we chartered a plane and flew 7 of us over there. His argument was it was going to be just like Florida, same water etc. I laughed and said make that judgment when you get there. He agreed that it was a totally different experience than Florida despite being so close. He had a blast and has since returned again. While the Bahamas can be rustic (or ghetto) depending on how far you venture out from the resorts it really only exists on American tourist dollars. You can fly from NY to Ft Laud cheaper and way more frequently than flying Ft Laud to Bimini. Hotels are cheaper in Ft Lauderdale and way way way more to do but there is a charm to the Bahamas especially Bimini. Many resorts have failed in the Bahamas, Resorts World itself is the 2nd go at that location (it used to be called Bimini Bay). While the 9 billion dollar parent company Genting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genting_Group is "paying the freight" to make it successful they still have to keep those dollars rolling in the other 51 weeks a year. |
Originally Posted by h2oboater
(Post 4616558)
Just don't break down in Bimini waters if you have a warrant for your arrest by the government there. Chances are you wont be lucky enuff to have a helicopter pulling you back into international waters like our friend did in the Fort Apache race back in the day.
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I NEVER said racer's are not smart.
I NEVER compared NASCAR to Offshore - I simply used the example that JJ wouldn't be the guy to run NASCAR events, even though he was an experienced Nascar racer. I NEVER said attracting sponsors was easy...not even sure I mentioned how I would approach them differently. I NEVER said the racers wouldn't possess a "wealth" of useful experience, THEY are the most important part of an offshore strategy...and the "core" to a successful strategy! Maybe all this negativity and resistance is why something can't get done in this sport. What has me curious though, is WHY the people directly involved with racing wouldn't be "interested" in the possibility that there could be another way to do these events where everybody was in a win, win situation. Oh well. |
by the way opa does just fine with or without this race
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Originally Posted by jusabum
(Post 4616646)
I NEVER said racer's are not smart.
I NEVER compared NASCAR to Offshore - I simply used the example that JJ wouldn't be the guy to run NASCAR events, even though he was an experienced Nascar racer. I NEVER said attracting sponsors was easy...not even sure I mentioned how I would approach them differently. I NEVER said the racers wouldn't possess a "wealth" of useful experience, THEY are the most important part of an offshore strategy...and the "core" to a successful strategy! Maybe all this negativity and resistance is why something can't get done in this sport. What has me curious though, is WHY the people directly involved with racing wouldn't be "interested" in the possibility that there could be another way to do these events where everybody was in a win, win situation. Oh well. |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4616180)
Yeah but the promoter can't overcharge all the teams for dockage, crane rental, parking, tent set up, food catering, etc! Combine that with the normal pricing of S. FL vs. Bahamas overcharging and the Bahamians will complain they didn't make anything either!
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Originally Posted by TeamSaris
(Post 4616182)
We went last year. It was a fantastic event. For the record, we didnt pay for the crane, docks, tents (the dry pits werent really used), parking or food catering. Other than travel expenses, and same fairly pricey rooms/food it cost us no more than your typical race. And the hotel paid for the shipping.
Here's the deal. Resorts World Bimini spent a LOT getting us all there last year. We raced, and we left. That's the problem. If it was a week long event and they got a weeks worth of room revenue out of it spending 300k getting the boats there would make sense. But it isn't, and probably wont be. On the rest of the comments, im glad OSO has the issues with racing all sorted out. One of you please start an organization that has endurance ocean racing, tv coverage (last years Bimini race was on NBC Sports btw), real prize purses and real corporate sponsors. We'll be the first team to sign up. If you don't, frankly, shut it. Unless you're actively coming up with something better (I can promise none of it is as simple as you think), stop running down the current format. |
If had the dollars I’d just give a $50k or $100k purse to the first back from FTL- bimini and back. Then a hire a chopper to catch the action. Idk how you’d monetize it, but it would be bad ass :D You could maybe make running a length of the beach a requirement on both ends. It wouldn’t be a sustained viewing opportunity though. |
Originally Posted by hogie roll
(Post 4616661)
If had the dollars I’d just give a $50k or $100k purse to the first back from FTL- bimini and back. Then a hire a chopper to catch the action. Idk how you’d monetize it, but it would be bad ass :D You could maybe make running a length of the beach a requirement on both ends. It wouldn’t be a sustained viewing opportunity though. |
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