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mti 340 vs wright 360
I would like to know your opinion on these boat and the benefits of each in the rough sea.
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Maybe wait for the write up from the testing they just did at LOTO?
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PBC is now selling boat, so go take some test rides on a Saturday at LOTO.
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Originally Posted by love and rockets
(Post 4647108)
I would like to know your opinion on these boat and the benefits of each in the rough sea.
thank you Terry [email protected] |
Boy, I cannot figure out why anybody would NOT buy the Wright Performance every time given that choice. 2 feet longer for a smoother ride and mph's that are close to the same. PBC can customize the boat to the hilt. LOTO on a rough Saturday would be a great test bed, both those days are done for the summer.
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Great boats for sure. Might want to clarify what you mean by "rough sea" though.
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Went out in the white and red wright performance with Myrick and Lance. 6 people on board we did 118mph, no porpoise. Went down by paradise and Myrick laid into a 180degree turn doing 85mph, pulled your body like a roller coaster. The fit and finish was awesome. I did notice one of the plastic “screws” holding the windshield on was missing. But it was a sweet ride. The conditions were smooth so I cant say anything about rough water capabilities, but they e ran that same boat in numerous poker runs down there. |
i live at Rimouski st laurent river rought seas it `s 5 feets and more wave
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thank you for the invitation but I live far away, but I'll be in Miami at the boat show
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Both are awesome! DW is a little faster. Badass boats for sure. Can't go wrong with either
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Originally Posted by love and rockets
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i live at Rimouski st laurent river rought seas it `s 5 feets and more wave
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Love and Rockets, If you befriend owners of the DW 360, perhaps you can get a ride sooner than the Miami Show? also, Performance Boat Center has a dealer in South Florida. SpeedontheWater.com covered that news and the dealer. . |
Originally Posted by dbhammer
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Maybe wait for the write up from the testing they just did at LOTO?
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DW 360 has the best lines of any OB cat!
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I have spent a lot of time in the DW360 and the boat is a 10. Myrick has run a best of 126 with one, it turns and handles incredibly as well. I am partial to Doug's boats-you might want to call Bob Teague or Myrick Coil direct and ask them what their personal opinions are (these are guys that have put boats to the extreme for decades and undersatnd build quality differences). I was blown away to hear Bobs quote in Miami last year after he went out and ran the DW36- Myrick has access and is involved with both boats on a daily basis.
Joe |
Originally Posted by love and rockets
(Post 4647552)
i live at Rimouski st laurent river rought seas it `s 5 feets and more wave
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I would venture to say that ALL of the boats on the market were not at the test. I'm betting DCB didn't bring every one of their sport cat lineup and smaller companies were probably not represented at all, for obvious reasons. Top speed isn't important since most of the time, the numbers are fantasy. But I'd like to know things like how does a 30wb Predator stack up against a 318 Skater, performance-wise. What's the build quality of a 32 Spectre compared to a DCB 31? I think the best LOOKING boat of all is the Pillini 34 so lets see what they all look like together. I get the "who is the fastest" thing but to me if I was going to cut a check for this kind of dough, I'd want to know the practical stuff.
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4647595)
DW 360 has the best lines of any OB cat!
Honestly, another cat that looks pretty impressive on the water is the new Fountain 32 Thundercat. Being 4' shorter than the Wright Performance, it is not going to give the ride, but it is a pretty damn good looking cat. I think that Ed at Big Thunder Marine (LOTO) knows as much about these as anybody. I also believe that the new Fountain comes in at a pretty good price point. As Noli says, a trip to LOTO (fly into St Louis) is a cheap way to really get to experience not only the new MTI, Wright Performance, and Fountain, but also allot of late model used cats. Good luck! |
Two of my good friends own each boat and they love them! My friend with the MTI has had multiple cats and v bottoms in his life and is absolutely thrilled with his MTI 340. My friend with the DW 360 is into his first cat after several v bottom boats and totally loves his boat. Both run extremely well in all conditions and both seem to run almost identical top ends. The MTI is running a little more prop and the DW could go up one but then he would loose some acceleration. So that said the DW would probably be faster propped the same. Both boats pop on plane with no effort at all and run amazing on normal chop and moderate seas. The DW sits much taller in the water than the MTI and has an overall bigger look but interior wise and running wise feel the same. Honestly, you will need to try them all and see which one you like. Both my friends tried each and one went MTI and the other DW. If you are looking for the biggest boat for rough water, your best bet would probably be the Mystic 38 as that is the same hull as a 44 cut down and is quite a bit larger than the the others.
Try the ones you like and best of luck! https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1979064f41.jpg |
Originally Posted by iamjoe
(Post 4647753)
I would venture to say that ALL of the boats on the market were not at the test. I'm betting DCB didn't bring every one of their sport cat lineup and smaller companies were probably not represented at all, for obvious reasons. Top speed isn't important since most of the time, the numbers are fantasy. But I'd like to know things like how does a 30wb Predator stack up against a 318 Skater, performance-wise. What's the build quality of a 32 Spectre compared to a DCB 31? I think the best LOOKING boat of all is the Pillini 34 so lets see what they all look like together. I get the "who is the fastest" thing but to me if I was going to cut a check for this kind of dough, I'd want to know the practical stuff.
1. We tested seven boats including a DCB M33 and a Pilini 34. Others were invited and the event was well publicized and open to any builder who expressed interest. Nordic, for example, tried to get a boat there but couldn't. We invited Screaming Eagle (now Spectre Powerboats per the speedonthewater.com story earlier this week). Though most of the companies that brought boats to our roundup are advertisers, our roundup was not limited to them. Any implication otherwise is incorrect. 2. Top speed was one of the many pieces of performance data we gathered. As we've said countless times, top speed is not the only, much less the most important, measure of performance. Also as we've said many times before, all of the boats in the class take a lot of time—and a lot of water—to achieve their top speed. 3. We brought three professional drivers: Bob Teague, Grant Bruggemann and Shaun Torrente and worked in three different teams with each team running every boat through the same set of test protocols and evaluations. We think they are imminently qualified for their jobs. For the record, beyond performance metrics, we did in fact gather lots of "practical stuff." (I like that term.) 4. We are not picking a winner. We will present our evaluations of what we observed, from performance to workmanship, on the day we tested all the boats. We will present our objective and subjective observations, but you, the readers, get to make your own determinations. If they're based on our findings, great. If not, great. 5. The roundup will run in the Sept/Oct issue of Speed On The Water digital magazine. I think that about covers it. Carry on, gentlemen. P.S. Forgot to mention: Love the enthusiasm and interest. Thank you. |
Originally Posted by JPEROG
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I have spent a lot of time in the DW360 and the boat is a 10. Myrick has run a best of 126 with one, it turns and handles incredibly as well. I am partial to Doug's boats-you might want to call Bob Teague or Myrick Coil direct and ask them what their personal opinions are (these are guys that have put boats to the extreme for decades and undersatnd build quality differences). I was blown away to hear Bobs quote in Miami last year after he went out and ran the DW36- Myrick has access and is involved with both boats on a daily basis.
Joe |
The cool thing about all this is years ago there were not too many choices for an O/B Cat but today is a different story. The boats tested are all a bit different including price points. Good news is competition makes all brands better and offer more to the consumer. It basically comes down to how you plan to use the boat. What is important to you. How much do you want to spend etc. Regarding size of these cats 360 versus 340 etc you should really look at the actual running surface. For example Dales 30 Skater proto type has no notch in the transom which makes it LOA close to 32'. The DW is more like a 34 they way the boat carries. I think MTI on some models also have no notch or can be ordered either way. All things come into play in the real world of running day to day. Matt really looking forward to results!
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Or 360 link Click on the YouTube Logo to get it on YouTube Once upon a time there was a little 308 Skater 400R running in the rough on LOTO 2018 Shootout Friday afternoon when the rain after a day and a half had finally let up. With plenty of fuel and four rednecks in Lifelines the little Skater 308 met a lovely Blue MTI 340 lumbering up the lake. One bat turn later the little Skater 308 pursues the mighty MTI 340 for a fun run only to find that a big bad white DW 360 has quickly appeared from nowhere. Cheerfully the rear seat passengers encourage the big bad DW 360 to run the little Skater 308 by letting them know that Skater surely is number 1 unbeknownst to the Skater’s captain. As the little Skater 308 turns and picks her line the big bad DW 360 makes it’s move. The little Skater exclaimed “I think I can I think I can!” But with time as they rolled along something strange began to happen! The big bad DW 360 and mighty MTI 340 appeared magically on the LOTO horizon. Again the little Skater 308 exclaimed “I think I can,”. As the Little Skater 308 hit her power band she overtook first the lumbering MTI 340 and then the DW 360! As She passed the two beauties she said to herself Maybe Skater really is number 1 after all. Now the new sayers May claim the little Skater had a better line or less fuel or a better setup or “Magic Mother Mercury CNC props or the unmentionable “Super Tune.” But the little Skater 308 that thought “it could” had a windshield mounted VIRB 360 to document this magic little Skater 308 moment and just went home to the Camden Supercat Fest pool bar for refreshments with a little less fuel and four big smiles. Morale of of the story is every cat has its day. Weather that day be smooth or rough water. Heavy load or improper setup. Wife on board or not��. But at the end of the day it’s all fun and good to be on the water running with everyone BTW yes I’m bored today and Tropical Storm Gordon is sitting on my head. Also Skater does not condone or endorse chewing cigars and running LOTO with DWs and MTIs. |
^^^^^ This is the same mentality Mad Props seems to have when running with bigger boats with 1100/1350s.
The little boat that can. And does. Nice run Sam. Great to have footage of those fun days that come a few times a year. |
Nice run my brother! This link plays better. Tap the YouTube logo to get full screen |
Originally Posted by iamjoe
(Post 4647753)
I would venture to say that ALL of the boats on the market were not at the test. I'm betting DCB didn't bring every one of their sport cat lineup and smaller companies were probably not represented at all, for obvious reasons. Top speed isn't important since most of the time, the numbers are fantasy. But I'd like to know things like how does a 30wb Predator stack up against a 318 Skater, performance-wise. What's the build quality of a 32 Spectre compared to a DCB 31? I think the best LOOKING boat of all is the Pillini 34 so lets see what they all look like together. I get the "who is the fastest" thing but to me if I was going to cut a check for this kind of dough, I'd want to know the practical stuff.
here are are a couple of practical pics C306WB https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f1bf78f925.jpg Practical1 https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...983e5e5761.jpg Practical2 |
Noli why didn’t Predator bring their boat to LOTO? \ |
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I actually have no answer for that one. Arnaldo would doing everything he could to bring the boat there, but if the owner is not interested.... I'd like to strike a deal with the owner and find a driver for it in 2019 at LOTO...but I know my idea will be shot down . |
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this Predator competed in LOTO a few years back and won by 1MPH...driven by Scott Blumberg....rigged at PBC https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fa53cf72fa.jpg |
Definition- Practical Stuff: Things like handling and ride (not at top speed) in the rough; build quality; interior quality; overall finish; rigging; how warranty is handled; weight and dimensions; option list; cost, etc.
For example, I buy boat A that looks all shiny and perfect at first, but then I find that the paint falls off, or the boat is dangerous at speed, or the bow light doesn't work or the gas tank comes loose or whatever else happens. I find myself totally regretting blowing hundreds of thousands for the POS and just wish someone would steal it and run it through a big chipper in New York. Having "the fastest" makes someone big d!ck on campus, but to me, it all adds up together. BTW, Noli, the Predator is a great looking boat |
Originally Posted by precisiondetails
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For those of us that don’t know- what was Bobs quote last year in Miami about it? Joe |
Originally Posted by skate
(Post 4647818)
Once upon a time there was a little 308 Skater 400R running in the rough on LOTO 2018 Shootout Friday afternoon when the rain after a day and a half had finally let up. That "little" Skater outshines them all, but of course it should, as it is a Skater! Your boat is awesome. We met at the gas dock at Red Heads when we were getting fuel in our 28. Someday, we may have to step up to the 308............... |
Originally Posted by 36Tango
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That "little" Skater outshines them all, but of course it should, as it is a Skater! Your boat is awesome. We met at the gas dock at Red Heads when we were getting fuel in our 28. Someday, we may have to step up to the 308...............
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Originally Posted by Double Rigged
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Jeff Time is Now!
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Originally Posted by noli
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this Predator competed in LOTO a few years back and won by 1MPH...driven by Scott Blumberg....rigged at PBC https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fa53cf72fa.jpg |
Originally Posted by 36Tango
(Post 4647966)
That "little" Skater outshines them all, but of course it should, as it is a Skater! Your boat is awesome. We met at the gas dock at Red Heads when we were getting fuel in our 28. Someday, we may have to step up to the 308...............
PM left in your inbox. |
Originally Posted by skate
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PM left in your inbox. I do not see one. That said maybe I should not look! |
Originally Posted by Double Rigged
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Noli what did the boat run the shootout for MPH?
I don't recall him telling me, but he said he just clinched the win by 1 or 2 MPH. The competitors were two fierce LOTO warriors => 2 women. Their boat was a Wozen boat or sth like that. The yellow non-widebody Predator boat with 400R ran 115MPH on its maiden voyage. waiting for new props to arrive. The gray widebody runs 117MPH, also waiting for bigger props. Arnaldo recommends the widebody for the 400R motors https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3024aa1a22.jpg . |
Thanks I believe that 308 Skater with 300xs’s went right around a 100mph give or take a couple. That was also on the 1 mile course. |
Originally Posted by noli
(Post 4648035)
I don't recall him telling me, but he said he just clinched the win by 1 or 2 MPH. The competitors were two fierce LOTO warriors => 2 women. Their boat was a Wozen boat or sth like that.
. The driver lives on a ranch in Fla and the throttlewoman came out of a diesel V. LOL |
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