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thisistank 05-30-2019 05:48 PM

What's the easiest way to mount a trailer box??
 
Pics would be great but how are most trailer boxes mounted? I'm buying a 49" x 15" x 15" to keep cleaning stuff and jack and tools and what not. I plan on mounting it along the I beam long ways, not sideways across the tongue. Same type of set up like your typical Myco. Problem is, it's an aluminum I-beam. So, what's the best way to do it. Does anyone may large enough U-Bolts to wrap around the I-beam? I don't think drilling through the trailer would be a good idea. Any ideas?

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c47d8e2a18.jpg
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Griff 05-30-2019 06:09 PM

I would say to make 1/4" aluminum plates a few inches wider than the I beam, drill holes in them and use long SS bolts.

BONDO10 05-30-2019 06:09 PM

Tank, have someone Tig a flat mounting plate to the trailer , and just thru bolt the box. I would plate the inside of the box as well. Also, don’t forget to put some type of insulator between the steel and aluminum, as well as coated hardware.
Good luck with the new rig
jeff

thisistank 05-30-2019 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by BONDO10 (Post 4689153)
Tank, have someone Tig a flat mounting plate to the trailer , and just thru bolt the box. I would plate the inside of the box as well. Also, don’t forget to put some type of insulator between the steel and aluminum, as well as coated hardware.
Good luck with the new rig
jeff


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4689152)
I would say to make 1/4" aluminum plates a few inches wider than the I beam, drill holes in them and use long SS bolts.

You guys are saying basically the same thing right? I didn't think of welding a plate. That's a good idea. Would an aluminum welded plate on the bottom support all that weight? I plan on putting a floor jack in there as well as tools and other heavy stuff.

Any other way that I wouldn't have to track down a welder and just do it myself. What about U-bolts on the back side of the box, wrapping around the ibeam and drilled through the box.

BONDO10 05-30-2019 06:42 PM

You could certainly use two plates and four bolts. Very similar to the way a small bolt on trailer jack mounts, but just like the bolt on jacks, they have a tendency to get loose quite easy. What I meant about the welded plate was not to go under the box, but on the back of it. That’s how Manning did it on my Sonic trailer, and I never had a problem. Now that I have outboards, no need for tools, or tool boxes....

thisistank 05-30-2019 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by BONDO10 (Post 4689161)
You could certainly use two plates and four bolts. Very similar to the way a small bolt on trailer jack mounts, but just like the bolt on jacks, they have a tendency to get loose quite easy. What I meant about the welded plate was not to go under the box, but on the back of it. That’s how Manning did it on my Sonic trailer, and I never had a problem. Now that I have outboards, no need for tools, or tool boxes....

LOL..True.

Those manning trailers are freakin nice.

I get what you're saying now. and good call with the thru bolts / two plates. I do know a welder come to think of it.

ramos45 05-30-2019 07:11 PM

I've been thinking of doing the same to my steel trailer. I have some scrap pieces of 3/16 thick 2x2 angle iron to weld into L brackets then either u bolt or weld to trailer. The box would then be bolted to L brackets. All the boxes I've been looking at are thin skinned so wouldn't want to just bolt through the box even with a backing plate.

Griff 05-31-2019 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4689157)
You guys are saying basically the same thing right? I didn't think of welding a plate. That's a good idea. Would an aluminum welded plate on the bottom support all that weight? I plan on putting a floor jack in there as well as tools and other heavy stuff.

Any other way that I wouldn't have to track down a welder and just do it myself. What about U-bolts on the back side of the box, wrapping around the ibeam and drilled through the box.

No, I'm saying use aluminum plate instead of U bolts but basically used in the same way as the U bolts.
Then use the same plates inside the tool box. Kind of like the way engine mounts are mounted on stringers.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a4e776aef6.jpg

SB 05-31-2019 05:22 AM

You definitely want to hold + support the toolbox from it's bottom. There are some L brackets out there for toolboxes. Here are some to get an idea:
https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Acc...y_Toolbox.aspx


For an easier internet search use the term Brackets for Installing Aluminum Tool Box

Note, always install thin foam or rubber strips between metal brackets and aluminum trailer frame. I (and many people of coarse) have seen the devastating electrolysis effects of steel parts not being isolated from aluminum trailers. The kits should come with it, but should doesn't mean it will, :)

Photo from Etrailer.com DeeZee box and DeeZee mounting brackets

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...02fec4e33f.jpg

Wobble 05-31-2019 01:57 PM

To answer the question posed: stepladder

thisistank 05-31-2019 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4689231)
No, I'm saying use aluminum plate instead of U bolts but basically used in the same way as the U bolts.
Then use the same plates inside the tool box. Kind of like the way engine mounts are mounted on stringers.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a4e776aef6.jpg

AH! Got it!!

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thisistank 05-31-2019 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4689237)
You definitely want to hold + support the toolbox from it's bottom. There are some L brackets out there for toolboxes. Here are some to get an idea:
https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Acc...y_Toolbox.aspx


For an easier internet search use the term Brackets for Installing Aluminum Tool Box

Note, always install thin foam or rubber strips between metal brackets and aluminum trailer frame. I (and many people of coarse) have seen the devastating electrolysis effects of steel parts not being isolated from aluminum trailers. The kits should come with it, but should doesn't mean it will, :)

Photo from Etrailer.com DeeZee box and DeeZee mounting brackets

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...02fec4e33f.jpg

thanks...I like that.

F-2 Speedy 05-31-2019 04:42 PM

You good on the tire carriers, I see you have one

thisistank 05-31-2019 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4689327)
You good on the tire carriers, I see you have one

Yep. Though I still want to see if I can do that spare hub set-up like you have. I don't know how they're set up though.

jamontes 05-31-2019 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4689331)
Yep. Though I still want to see if I can do that spare hub set-up like you have. I don't know how they're set up though.

go down to your local trailer supply and buy two spindles. Weld them to 2 uprights and you can mount your full spare brake/hubs to them.

that is how I set mine up and now have 2 full brake/hub set ups packed with grease and ready to mount. Came in handy after a center tire blow out on my last trip to Pensacola.

send me your number and I can text you some pix when I am at the boat tomorrow

thisistank 05-31-2019 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by jamontes (Post 4689346)


go down to your local trailer supply and buy two spindles. Weld them to 2 uprights and you can mount your full spare brake/hubs to them.

that is how I set mine up and now have 2 full brake/hub set ups packed with grease and ready to mount. Came in handy after a center tire blow out on my last trip to Pensacola.

send me your number and I can text you some pix when I am at the boat tomorrow

thats what speedy did. Came out super nice.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2a5348a0f.jpeg
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jamontes 05-31-2019 08:55 PM

That is exactly what I did.

Sydwayz 06-01-2019 01:02 PM

Couple thoughts.
DO NOT mount the trailer tool box too low. You want is as high as possible so when you are on the crappiest ramp and the 'wrong' tide or lake level, you don't flood your tool box. I mounted mine too low, and regretted it as such a few times. I mounted mine by bolting aluminum box tube under the aluminum frame of the trailer, and bolted the box to those tubes. Again, that was too low for the boxes I used. Taller boxes might have been better.

Two schools of thoughts on double spare tires.
1) I like the idea of having double spares, and I always carried two spares. Jeff Jassby had Myco put dual spares with full spindles on his NorTech trailer years back, that actually performed as additional guides to center the boat on the trailer IF needed in a strong wind or current. If such were mine, I would have had white vinyl covers over them, and used them for the exact same.

2) However, sometimes it's beneficial to stand on your spare tire on the trailer to access or reach the bow, grabbing a line, washing, trans-versing, whatever. If you have a spindle, the tire/wheel will spin and you can't stand on it. As such, there is merit to having the spares mounted to a fixed flat mount above the trailer. They can still act as guides mentioned above as well. And just keep a spare full ready to go spindle in a sealed bag in the trailer tool box (which is what I did, and never ever used).

wananewboat 06-01-2019 01:53 PM

I saw this photo and always liked the set up. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...039d3bf34f.jpg

Quinlan 06-03-2019 06:24 AM

Photo from Etrailer.com DeeZee box and DeeZee mounting brackets

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...02fec4e33f.jpg[/QUOTE]
Mine is mounted on my Manning like this but with 2 small metal bars welded to bottom of trailer.
I would suggest turning it where the door is facing up. Mine gets water in it every time I dunk. Maybe if door is facing up as I saw one done before if would not get water in.

F-2 Speedy 06-03-2019 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4689351)

My trailer has replaceable spindles, 5 bolts to remove and bolt a new one on if it gets damaged, no more replacing the axle.....:D

thisistank 06-03-2019 12:15 PM

Thanks everyone for all the advise. Good stuff. I think I know how to do and what I’m going to do know. Going to pick up 4 of the prefab L brackets and mount a stainless 49” x 15 x 15 box nearly level with the bottom of the trailer frame (not hanging lower. It’ll be mounted opposite of the spare tire so no dual tires. I still have to see if my south Florida trailer is a bolt on spindle or solid. Then I’ll figure out the spindle situation.

Joe 06-06-2019 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4689784)
Thanks everyone for all the advise. Good stuff. I think I know how to do and what I’m going to do know. Going to pick up 4 of the prefab L brackets and mount a stainless 49” x 15 x 15 box nearly level with the bottom of the trailer frame (not hanging lower. It’ll be mounted opposite of the spare tire so no dual tires. I still have to see if my south Florida trailer is a bolt on spindle or solid. Then I’ll figure out the spindle situation.

....your wife SOOOO needs to video you attempting this! Just sayin'!

*Let the Tank destruction project begin! Eeeek! LOL (love' ya man! :-)

thisistank 06-06-2019 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Joe (Post 4690537)
....your wife SOOOO needs to video you attempting this! Just sayin'!

*Let the Tank destruction project begin! Eeeek! LOL (love' ya man! :-)

kinda scary how well you know me joe!! Lol

you going to loto?

Strip Poker 388 06-12-2019 01:22 PM

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i put 2 plates on the inside of the box to support it,spread out the weight.2 bolts ,its been there since 2003

PremierPOWER 06-19-2019 08:47 PM

What boxes are those? I mounted mine in the exact same spot, but mine are side opening and one of them leaks anytime it gets into the water. I want to swap them both for top opening boxes like that.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2cb91dabe2.jpg

thisistank 06-20-2019 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 4692862)


What boxes are those? I mounted mine in the exact same spot, but mine are side opening and one of them leaks anytime it gets into the water. I want to swap them both for top opening boxes like that.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2cb91dabe2.jpg

Myco build the trailer with the ladder at the bow? I'd actually like to have a ladder too LOL Cant find a pre-fab one anywhere.

SB 06-20-2019 10:49 AM

I've only found a few searching around under ' Boat trailer bow steps '

Here is one:
https://www.easystepsystem.com/

thisistank 06-20-2019 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4692936)
I've only found a few searching around under ' Boat trailer bow steps '

Here is one:
https://www.easystepsystem.com/

I did see that one. It's just not high enough. I think the only way is to have someone custom make one. I like these set ups. I think it would be beneficial to not have to crawl up onto the swimstep to get on the boat while it's on the trailer.

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SB 06-20-2019 11:15 AM

That Sport trail one looks cool. :)

Years ago, on OSO, I saw a pic of a ladder attached to the swing arm of the outdrive guard part of trailer. I thought that was cool if someone has this type of trailer..

SB 06-20-2019 11:21 AM

Found it :)
https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ladders-2.html

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...68f4be254f.jpg

PremierPOWER 06-21-2019 08:20 AM

That is awesome! I will be adding that

PremierPOWER 06-21-2019 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4692923)
Myco build the trailer with the ladder at the bow? I'd actually like to have a ladder too LOL Cant find a pre-fab one anywhere.

Yes, it is from Myco. The first Myco we had built didnt have a ladder but we later ordered one for it, so you could probably call Myco and have one made.


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