Thanks for the invite. I've got an absolute crazy fall coming up. Family vacation late September, work is insane and I still have to get my tilt back to Skater before "winter" We'll be around as soon as the boat makes it home. It took me two weeks, just to get over to Ontario, California to drive this truck home.

About how heavy of a boat could a P4XL handle without issue? I'm guessing it will truck a 15,000+ pound boat at 75 MPH all day long?

I'm sure it'll handle my 368 nicely. I'll never need more truck, I'm certain of that. I've seen them pulling the largest CC's with what appears to be excessive tongue weight.

The only negative on this truck is that technically, I'll need a CDL. there are lots of grey area's on this but the law states that anything over 26,000 GCVW requires at least a class B. Putting "Private Coach-Not for Hire" decals may buy some mercy from a trooper but the law is clear. A P2XL doesn't have air brakes and you can get away with it better, not sure of the GCVW on them.

With a CDL, you open Pandora's box. Again, technically, I'd need a log book and stop at all scales. Also apportioning by state, can issues arise. So, I think I'm gonna do what ALL the others do...wing it. :rolleyes:

I'm stuck at when I would "need" (or is it want? LOL) a truck like this...A 3500 would be capable of pulling what my 39 Cat weighs and then some, heck even 2500s can pull it within capacity. I know there are heavier boats out there, I'm about 14,000 pounds as of now. But most offshores/cats are usually under 20,000 pounds so considering all big three 3500 trucks are rated for 23,000 or more, I guess going bigger would be for brakes, suspension, and towing for long distance etc. Obviously, I want a P4XL bad. Real bad. But not sure I "need" it. Either way, awesome truck! My absolute dream is to have a P4XL matched to my boat and trailer. Maybe next year.

As for the CDL, try winging it. But I know from experience that if you do get stopped, you'll probably get whacked. Buddy of mine learned the hard way.

Here's why I decided on the P4XL over a F450 or equal. First, they're cool as hell. But as far as practicality goes, its the weight and stability of the tow vehicle in relation to the size and weight of the boat/trailer. I know most guys get away with it, with no problems. I will be doing long drives with my family in conditions outside my control. I can imaging what a tilted cat in high or buffeting winds would be like. Also, as you stated, the brakes are amazing on this truck. A real bad traffic situation arises where I need to panic stop, panic swerve, I want everything within my control, in my favor.

The 4 wheel drive is simply a luxury at questionable ramps, as some others in this thread have confirmed, other not. But, given the choice, I'll take 4 wheel. These front tires are extremely noisy, gonna need to change them out to something else. Worse than some lifted stuff I drove as a kid.

Go Big or Go Home! Sweet Truck

Find a phone number for your state's commercial vehicle office and talk to them. I was always under the same impression, that over 26k GVWR or a combination over 26k (which you can exceed with just an F350 dually and a triple axle trailer), that you would need a CDL. I talked to the commercial vehicle office in Florida and told them it was a boat, they said that's fine as long as its not for any commercial or money making purposes. If you had a bunch of sponsors and stuff like all the offshore fishermen, then that could be considered commercial. But for a stricly pleasure boat and truck, you might be fine. But call and talk to them, the laws aren't written super clear when it comes to personal use stuff.