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1MOSES1 08-15-2019 10:27 PM

Prop Deal Gone Wrong
 
Want to preface the story with...not looking for money to be returned just want to solicit opinions. Not gonna name drop either but these were purchased from OSO. On to the story.

Last year we cracked a LH prop...during my search of new ones I came across a pair that was deemed “in good shape, no cracks, need nothing”. I say fine I’ll take them and make the payment. Got them in...they were shiney and from the outside looked good. Honestly don’t remember inspecting them at all. Shame on me. Threw them on and went boating.

Fast forward to this year and im noticing the inside of the hubs are completely rotted. To my dismay now I have to throw them away and find new ones again. Should I be pissed that the seller wasnt straight forward or should I be pissed at myself for not looking them over at the time of sale. Either way this sucks....here are some pics of prop and texts. What do you think?

1MOSES1 08-15-2019 10:30 PM


1MOSES1 08-15-2019 10:32 PM

Here is the condition of the prop. It’s un-usable...to the people wondering if they were deliverable in good shape and corroded over the year. We don’t keep our boat in the water and always run thru fresh water (river) on the way back to the marina.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...12a0f29a2.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...aeb229bef.jpeg

Griff 08-15-2019 10:42 PM

What do you want an opinion about??

1MOSES1 08-15-2019 10:44 PM

Whether I should be pissed that the seller duped me or if I should be pissed at myself for not inspecting them when I received them...lol.

Basically have $600 paperweights now!!!

Baja Rooster 08-16-2019 12:43 AM

It’s a buyer beware world especially with used boat parts. Many of us are too busy to pop open a box the day it arrives, but after that amount of time and use it’s on you.

Alwhite00 08-16-2019 04:36 AM

That’s rotted out? I see some scale but is it really worse than the picture?

Gary C 08-16-2019 05:02 AM

Year later its on you. Sorry. That being said, they dont look unusable to me.

offshoredrillin 08-16-2019 05:39 AM

i think those are just casting flaws, ive never seen a prop rust through

BONDO10 08-16-2019 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 4702319)
i think those are just casting flaws, ive never seen a prop rust through

Agreed

badmonkey 08-16-2019 06:19 AM

On you...and the props are still good to use....

Brandonb_05 08-16-2019 06:35 AM

What pitch prop?

speicher lane 08-16-2019 06:38 AM

You bought them a year ago, handled them, installed them and now you are pondering if you got screwed because of surface oxidation making a few casting imperfections visible? Even in the top pic of post#2 shows some scaling that is oxidized in your post#3 on the flange...(BTW - I have seen props look like that after cleaning with acid over the years and the boat was land locked Fresh water)

What drew you attention to the props being considered NFG at this point? Did the hub burn through or

VoodooRob 08-16-2019 06:43 AM

When buying a product that is less than 50% of new you have to define what the sellers definition of "good" condition is versus what you expect. If you want new condition than find a used set for sale that is no doubt in that condition or do yourself a favor and buy new. To answer your question bluntly you got what you paid for.

Brandonb_05 08-16-2019 07:06 AM

My desk could use new paper weights, depending on pitch. I’ll give you 200 plus shipping for them. I would put them on my boat, I mean desk.

dunnitagain 08-16-2019 07:29 AM

Ive never seen a prop fail , from some pitting in the webs. That is the most
difficult part on a prop to cast. Run the **** out of them .
To late to complain , its on you.

1MOSES1 08-16-2019 08:57 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys. The pitting is pretty significant on 2 of the hubs and less so on the third. if I can find another prop I’m probably gonna swap this one out. It looks more significant than surface corrosion to me. I can almost stick a screw driver in them.

1MOSES1 08-16-2019 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Brandonb_05 (Post 4702333)
My desk could use new paper weights, depending on pitch. I’ll give you 200 plus shipping for them. I would put them on my boat, I mean desk.

might take you up on the offer. It’s a 26P bravo. Hadn’t I just spent 14k in drive rebuilds this past winter I probably wouldn’t worry about it...it’s cheap money to get peace of mind.

Knot 4 Me 08-16-2019 09:21 AM

You'll throw a blade on them, especially if they have ever been lab finished, well before you'd ever have a webbing failure. As others have stated, that is not corrosion.

OLDRAT 08-16-2019 10:31 AM

Concur as casting surface gas defect in the nickel based material which is not uncommon. Manufacturers usually have a pass/fail criteria (depth, length, width, etc..) addressing visual surface or NDE detected defects based on engineering data or industry standards.

Like stated above, the possibility of having a blade failure is greater than the web giving away.

Run them before assuming they are paperweights.

OR

Baja Rooster 08-16-2019 12:06 PM

If you getting rid of a single RH 26p I’d be interested.

1MOSES1 08-16-2019 04:49 PM


1MOSES1 08-16-2019 04:50 PM

Decided to pull the prop...you can see thru the webs. it’s pretty bad. Anyone ever see this before?

Brandonb_05 08-16-2019 06:19 PM

No sir I have not. But your right, if you blow the picture up I’m pretty sure you can see light through the hole.

Wobble 08-16-2019 07:37 PM

looks like damage from electrolysis

Griff 08-16-2019 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4702309)
Whether I should be pissed that the seller duped me or if I should be pissed at myself for not inspecting them when I received them...lol.

Basically have $600 paperweights now!!!

I can say that I have never really inspected the inner veins on any of my props.
Its not surprising that you didn't notice it and I doubt that the seller would not have noticed it either.

cigrocket 08-16-2019 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Wobble (Post 4702426)
looks like damage from electrolysis

i agree I have seen this before on a friends cruiser in marina with SS props. Electrolysis can happen rapidly especially ina marina. It only takes a boat or two to F things up


as for your deal, a year later... I wouldn’t post, I would accept as lesson learned. Inspect upon purchase

Baja Rooster 08-16-2019 10:27 PM

There was a post on that FB thing this season of two fancy brand new outboards that had the lowers literally eaten off from electrolysis. They were only in the water for a week. Most the other slips were fine but it’s supposed the next slip upstream had an issue.

1MOSES1 08-17-2019 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Brandonb_05 (Post 4702333)
My desk could use new paper weights, depending on pitch. I’ll give you 200 plus shipping for them. I would put them on my boat, I mean desk.

I’ll take 200.

1MOSES1 08-17-2019 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Baja Rooster (Post 4702372)
If you getting rid of a single RH 26p I’d be interested.

it’s for sale if you want it.

Marginmn 08-17-2019 03:21 PM

When I was restoring my Comp 6 years ago I shelled out like $5k for new 1/4 Canopies. They sat in a crate never opened for 2+ years while the boat was being re-rigged and painted. When I finally get the boat back the newly-installed canopies had a massive amount of distortion in them - like looking through a fun house mirror. Call the manufacturer and they are like, well your rigger must have polished them or something to cause that. My rigger is like, we've been rigging HPs boat our entire lives. We didn't do a dam thing to them but take off the protective plastic.

Long story short, I can't say a word because the Canopies had been shipped so long ago. I bought new ones from a different manufacturer at half the price and they are awesome. I ate the $5k and the cost of install as an expensive boating lesson and moved on.

You have no beef with the seller now. Move on.

1MOSES1 08-19-2019 10:28 PM

What happened to all the buyers lining up? :party-smiley-004:

thirdchildhood 08-20-2019 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4702844)
What happened to all the buyers lining up? :party-smiley-004:

You posted better pictures showing light coming through the holes! ;)

Boatlesss 08-20-2019 11:15 AM

you have a cigarette top gun and all you can afford is used props. better get a cheaper boat.

1MOSES1 08-20-2019 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Boatlesss (Post 4702916)
you have a cigarette top gun and all you can afford is used props. better get a cheaper boat.

how about f*ck off...thanks. :champs:

F-2 Speedy 08-20-2019 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4702922)


how about f*ck off...thanks. :champs:

LMAO I was waiting for that ........:Score-101010:

1MOSES1 08-20-2019 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4702923)
LMAO I was waiting for that ........:Score-101010:

unreal man...I’ve spent 40k in maintenance and upkeep in the last 3 years and he’s gonna bust my balls on props.

13k outdrive rebuilds
4k transom assemblies
8k new exhaust
1k new carpet
15k repeated rebuilds on 500efis



TexomaPowerboater 08-20-2019 12:45 PM

I don't think you got screwed if you got one season out of used props. If their not slowing down the boat or causing any problems while underway why not keep using them until something gives?

SB 08-20-2019 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4702922)


how about f*ck off...thanks. :champs:

Felt that over hear ! Bamm ! :)

Can't believe that guy eats chicken every now and then when he can afford steak every night. :lolhit::party-smiley-004:

TURBOED 08-20-2019 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Boatlesss (Post 4702916)
you have a cigarette top gun and all you can afford is used props. better get a cheaper boat.

do you even have a boat?


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