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Jupiter Sunsation 12-31-2019 11:29 AM

Another jetty vs. boat last night
 
https://www.portevergladeswebcam.com/
Live cam shows the boat is still there with people investigating it

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...goa-story.htmlAccording to WPLG Ch. 10, at least two people were in serious condition after the boat slammed into the jetty, which is in Dania Beach, on Tuesday just after midnight. At least four people were in the boat, which was traveling at a high speed when it crashed, Ch. 10 reported.

A woman was ejected from the 42-foot boat and sustained traumatic injuries, WSVN Ch. 7 reported.

Alwhite00 12-31-2019 02:41 PM

“Just after midnight on Tuesday, December 31, 2019 Broward Sheriff Fire Rescue received a call for a 42’ vessel which struck a jetty near Port Everglades after having difficulty navigating the dark waters, ejecting one person and injuring three others.”


not good. I wonder how fast they were going?

Indy 12-31-2019 05:11 PM

There's no GPS chart plotter on a vessel that expensive?

ActiveThunder 12-31-2019 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4720298)
There's no GPS chart plotter on a vessel that expensive?

Of course there is. But you already knew that. And if you want to run the ocean at might you better rely on your eyes and know exactly where you are at, not count on a GPS. I see they are all from Indiana so that factors in to probably being clueless about the waters. Thankfully they aren't all dead.

People got hurt doing stupid things that they thought were fun. Hopefully the next person will think more than twice. But probably not....

302Sport 01-01-2020 09:18 AM

We can talk about how the people didn’t know what they were doing, they were drinking, etc..... but how hard would it be to illuminate all of the jetty’s??? I don’t mean one little blinking navigational light on the end, I mean light the whole thing up with bright lights.

ActiveThunder 01-01-2020 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4720342)
We can talk about how the people didn’t know what they were doing, they were drinking, etc..... but how hard would it be to illuminate all of the jetty’s??? I don’t mean one little blinking navigational light on the end, I mean light the whole thing up with bright lights.

Actually, in the day of LEDS, quite easy. And I agree with your point. You just have to wait until a family member of a politician gets killed for it to happen.

302Sport 01-01-2020 12:52 PM

I have heard that big issue with the government lighting jettys is that in court they are basically admitting guilt and opening a can of worms regarding old accidents.

sp123 01-01-2020 02:24 PM

maybe it is just a cost issue... why pay for lights when nav equiptment is much better this made the national news this am....

hogie roll 01-01-2020 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4720298)
There's no GPS chart plotter on a vessel that expensive?

you can still get yourself in a pickle at speed

Indy 01-01-2020 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4720387)
you can still get yourself in a pickle at speed

I hardly think a jetty is not marked on charts and electronics. Reading a chart (yeah...a paper chart) and paying attention to your electronic devices is a great start, but not the be all/end all for boating at night. I don't know the exact circumstances of this incident but lack of preparation, not paying attention and speed is a big reason for many of these occurrences.

Jupiter Sunsation 01-01-2020 06:15 PM

Don't forget the turtles! Yeah, for part of the year you can't light up your condo/have bright street lights along the coastline because the turtle hatchlings get confused and don't swim towards the ocean (moon light) when there are bright lights confusing them.

Oldest guy on the boat lives in a 10mm house right inside the inlet, so he likely was piloting the vessel.

PremierPOWER 01-10-2020 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4720301)
Of course there is. But you already knew that. And if you want to run the ocean at might you better rely on your eyes and know exactly where you are at, not count on a GPS. I see they are all from Indiana so that factors in to probably being clueless about the waters. Thankfully they aren't all dead.

People got hurt doing stupid things that they thought were fun. Hopefully the next person will think more than twice. But probably not....

What a dumb statement about not being familiar with the waters. I am from Indianapolis, but we have a vacation home in Florida and I am VERY familiar with the waters.

PremierPOWER 01-10-2020 03:09 PM

The boat has FLIR and radar, so there really is no excuse for hitting it short of a medical emergency. I can very easily and safely run 40+ with radar and FLIR. I'd be willing to bet that he was on auto pilot simply not paying close enough attention to the route, whether alcohol was or was not involved.

Jupiter Sunsation 01-10-2020 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 4721353)
The boat has FLIR and radar, so there really is no excuse for hitting it I'd be willing to bet that he was on auto pilot simply not paying close enough attention to the route, whether alcohol was or was not involved.


Guy had the boat a month...........no chance he was using the autopilot at midnight.

ActiveThunder 01-10-2020 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 4721352)
What a dumb statement about not being familiar with the waters. I am from Indianapolis, but we have a vacation home in Florida and I am VERY familiar with the waters.

Hopefully more familiar than the idiot from Indiana that drove over the rocks. And all I meant was perhaps he wasn't familiar with the water. The inlets can get the best of the most experienced on the ocean side of the state in trouble. The lake side of the state, there's just a lot of ground to run up on.

frickstyle 01-11-2020 07:13 AM

Here's another angle. I was out fishing that morning and snapped this on the way back in around 11:30a. Apologies as I was driving and couldn't get to it until way past, a lot of commotion thru the channel that day....

He made it pretty far!!! (In seriousness, I hope no one is permanently injured. does anyone know what happened to the woman, or what was the causation of the accident? You guys are quick to rag on this guy without knowing details.)

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...14024f3f41.jpg

Indy 01-11-2020 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4721389)
You guys are quick to rag on this guy without knowing details.)

You are right, he could have had a heart attack or health issue, but seeing accidents played out like this many times over the years it's usually operator error; not doing your homework regarding the waters, alcohol, speed, distraction, being in over your head, ego.

Any follow-up to the story?

frickstyle 01-11-2020 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4721391)
You are right, he could have had a heart attack or health issue, but seeing accidents played out like this many times over the years it's usually operator error; not doing your homework regarding the waters, alcohol, speed, distraction, being in over your head, ego.

Any follow-up to the story?

Fully agree, just saying some people are quick to choose sides, without even knowing 1% of the true story.

I look at it as in the same camp; when something truly freakish happens in a high speed accident (ex: steering failure / drive failure = spin out and ejection) - the general public has the sentiment "Well, that A-hole in the loud boat deserves it. He's prob a rich prick and had it coming to him." I don't have a lot of tolerance for that and try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.

I saw a truly nasty river boat accident on IG where someone ran head on into a piling, tree, or power pole in a hydro(?). Split it right down the middle bow to transom, killed the guy instantly (this was recently in FLA). turns out a gust of wind got under the boat, picked it up, turned it starboard, set it down and WHAM! He was prob running 80-100mph. For sure there were a lot of people blaming it on alcohol, not the case. Don't be so quick to judge, it might be you next time... (not directed at you Indy).

Remember that guy that ran his Baja up into the covered floating docks (LOTO?)... heartattack. Just pisses me off people feel the need to comment (where you there??? come on.)

Anyways - would really like to hear the full story on this if anyone has it.

Keith Atlanta 01-11-2020 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4721363)
Guy had the boat a month...........no chance he was using the autopilot at midnight.

Auto pilot wouldnt have hit the rocks, would it? When we run autopilot in my buddys Invincible it is incredibly accurate.

Griff 01-11-2020 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4721395)
Remember that guy that ran his Baja up into the covered floating docks (LOTO?)... heartattack. Just pisses me off people feel the need to comment (where you there??? come on.)

Heart attack thing was BS. He was walking around and people who were there said he was drunk and beer cans all over the boat. He then complained of having a heart attack/chest pain and went to the hospital and was released the next day I believe. Not sure if the WP got a BAC on him or if he got a BWI though.

Tractionless 01-12-2020 12:24 PM

Typical irresponsibility and invincibility of Floridiots!

Jupiter Sunsation 01-12-2020 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Tractionless (Post 4721530)
Typical irresponsibility and invincibility of Floridiots!


All 4 aboard were from Indiana...........:rolleyes:

PremierPOWER 01-13-2020 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4721363)
Guy had the boat a month...........no chance he was using the autopilot at midnight.

I was using auto pilot on day one of having our Nortech CC and Monterey cabin cruiser and at night. Both boats do have FLIR and radar, which makes it easier. It would still be very easy to have this happen on auto pilot if you were not paying attention.

PremierPOWER 01-13-2020 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4721421)
Auto pilot wouldnt have hit the rocks, would it? When we run autopilot in my buddys Invincible it is incredibly accurate.


Depends on how he set it up. If he had it just on heading lock, it would just hold the boat straight, until the operator took control. If he made his own route to follow, he may have made it right through the jetty. If he had auto route, I would think it would have routed around this, but it is not 100%. Anytime I use auto route, I check it to make sure. Either way, if you don't pay attention during auto pilot, you are at risk of hitting something/ someone.

Wildman_grafix 01-13-2020 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 4721668)
Depends on how he set it up. If he had it just on heading lock, it would just hold the boat straight, until the operator took control. If he made his own route to follow, he may have made it right through the jetty. If he had auto route, I would think it would have routed around this, but it is not 100%. Anytime I use auto route, I check it to make sure. Either way, if you don't pay attention during auto pilot, you are at risk of hitting something/ someone.


I know auto route on my Garmin Chartplotter is not error free by any stretch.

ALL_IN! 01-13-2020 02:52 PM

I hate to hijack this thread, but anytime I use auto route on my Garmin - it takes me across land. Is that normal?? Granted, I've never opened the book/manual, but it's not very intuitive.


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4721670)
I know auto route on my Garmin Chartplotter is not error free by any stretch.


Jupiter Sunsation 01-23-2020 07:25 PM

911 tapes released, whew it sounded bad

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...5im-story.html

1989mach1 01-23-2020 08:24 PM

I would be interested in the boat now for the right price. Most of that should buff out.

Boomer35 01-23-2020 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4722824)
911 tapes released, whew it sounded bad

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...5im-story.html

i had to stop listening, let alone shared it online.

Jupiter Sunsation 01-24-2020 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer35 (Post 4722843)
i had to stop listening, let alone shared it online.

It was embedded in the article which went on to say only ONE other boat hit that jetty in the previous 10 years. Lot's of OSO members have used that inlet so they are familiar with it.

Jupiter Sunsation 08-05-2020 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4721391)

Any follow-up to the story?

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...vbm-story.html


100mm lawsuit filed, lawyer's statement:

“It’s so reckless, to get into a million dollar boat with 1,700 horsepower and four outboard engines, and taking a big boat up on a plane going very fast while carrying passengers and after drinking, apparently not knowing where you are or really how to use the boat’s GPS and radar,” Hickey said. “It’s just the heights of recklessness.”

SB 08-05-2020 07:42 AM

Article is locked without signing up.

Any chance lawyers are Morgan and Morgan. :)

Jupiter Sunsation 08-05-2020 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4751523)
Article is locked without signing up.

Any chance lawyers are Morgan and Morgan. :)


Not M&M but the lawyer specializes in brain injury cases!

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...vbm-story.html


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