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PARASAIL941 07-10-2020 09:37 AM

I was told they ride great in a light chop. Jay Ross referred to it as the Grand National hull. I was thinking of building/ buying something similar to buzz around in. You could cover a lot of ground in a day around here with that one. Sounds like a blast!!!

Nate5.0 07-10-2020 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by PARASAIL941 (Post 4747567)
I was told they ride great in a light chop. Jay Ross referred to it as the Grand National hull. I was thinking of building/ buying something similar to buzz around in. You could cover a lot of ground in a day around here with that one. Sounds like a blast!!!

Awesome and thank you for the feed back.

Our only hold was just wanting to assure it was 1. A real manufacture as it states it is, and 2. that it can handle a light intercoastal chop.

So ya, looks like next up is a run in her.

PARASAIL941 07-10-2020 10:17 AM

I'm splashing my latest project this weekend. If all goes well , I'd like to check out your area in the next couple weeks. Good luck!

Nate5.0 07-10-2020 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by PARASAIL941 (Post 4747576)
I'm splashing my latest project this weekend. If all goes well , I'd like to check out your area in the next couple weeks. Good luck!


Let me know.

We are always around 3 rooker and Caladesi island and then hit up Eggmont from time to time

larslindroth 07-10-2020 05:20 PM

That's the hull design with which Jay Ross started Sonic Marine in 1976. It's got an 8' beam and most were jets, but some were built for outboards. The hull is an unusual MVP design with larger strakes and mini tunnels. It's got a wide pad to ride at higher speeds and the twin Merc., mentioned above, by Lee was done in 1990. That boat eventually ended up in Michigan and got twin 2.5 245 hp CLE offshores. 100 mph plus 15 years ago and then sold to Palm Beach, FL, and was in 2007 in N.Y. Well handling boat, and heavy layup. I bet the 1979 is at least 2,000 lbs dry and might have originally been a jet. Light chop should be fine, but not much more. Here are a couple of photos of an early jet and the 1990 twin. GLW the potential purchase.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f8a252ea9d.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fc10e198c4.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...56a9898f5b.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...53b2e465b5.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6620e0869a.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ad6581c899.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...05eea9a257.jpg

Twin O/B Sonic 07-10-2020 05:48 PM

Bad ass!

Again, thx for the history lesson Lars.
I had seen several and thought they were a J Ross boat.
Didnt remember it being the first.
Makes sense.

Love the twin.

Nate5.0 07-10-2020 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4747640)
That's the hull design with which Jay Ross started Sonic Marine in 1976. It's actually 21'6" and got an 8' beam. Most were jets, but some were built for outboards. The hull is an unusual MVP design with larger strakes and mini tunnels. It's got a wide pad to ride at higher speeds and the twin Merc., mentioned above, by Lee was done in 1990. That boat eventually ended up in Michigan and got twin 2.5 245 hp CLE offshores. 100 mph plus 15 years ago and then sold to Palm Beach, FL. Well handling boat, and heavy layup. I bet the 1979 is at least 2,000 lbs dry and might have originally been a jet. Light chop should be fine, but not much more. Here are a couple photos of an early jet and the 1990 twin. GLW with the potential purchase.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f8a252ea9d.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fc10e198c4.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...56a9898f5b.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...53b2e465b5.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6620e0869a.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ad6581c899.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...05eea9a257.jpg




This post is awesome!!!! Thank you so much!!!

thirdchildhood 07-10-2020 07:22 PM

That looks sick with the 2.5 2-strokes!

larslindroth 07-11-2020 03:40 AM

Is the Sonic Marine 21 a splashed, but refined Rayson-Craft 20 GN V-bottom?
 
Well, the true original was really sick and it had triples!!! If the story is correct, then Jay Ross simply splashed a Rayson-Craft GN V-bottom boat. The first one Rudy Ramos created won the 1967 Outboard World Championship in Lake Havasu with 3 Mercs driven by Rudy, Ron Larson, and Michael Reagan, (yes that Son of the #POTUS to be). Rudy once claimed that his 20' GN V-bottom is nothing more than an Allison hull cut down and straked. Well in that case maybe Paul Allison got inspired by Rudy, since Paul's little deep-V showed up in '68. The truth is probably that geniuses think alike, and naturally always keep an eye on the competition. Would naturally like to hear Jay Ross confirm the GN story. Jay obviously always had great taste in boats and when he built his Sonic 24SS model he wisely chose the Donzi Doral hull and had a more modern deck created. Thank God the Rayson-Craft got to keep its timeless deck design though.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d55680fa42.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...327e1679a1.jpg

Stuckonstupid 07-14-2020 03:40 PM

Looks like they dropped the price on the boat referenced in the first post BIG TIME.


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