You are spot on. It is pretty easy to see through the BS of the posts. I know the story, but nothing good comes from repeating it.

IMO there’s value in understanding how boats perform. I’d hate to buy a problem hull to find out later that no thought there was any value in discussing multiple incidents.

Only one person knows the truth and he sure seems to be private. As he should be. I would be if it was me.

It's definitely not a hull-related issue. Speed, dark/windy conditions, operator new to the boat, all coming into play.

I’m not sure I’d compare this conversation to our current media. We are boaters talking about a not everyday situation. I didn’t think about the fact that the boat being left out there posed a navigational hazzard. Something else to think about. There have definitely been some far more “normal” accidents that far more scrutinized.

I agree 100% that this accident had nothing to do with the boat not performing correctly. What I think everybody should take away from this accident is to not mix drinking and driving these high performance boats - especially at night! In my opinion, it is obvious the owner/driver was likely intoxicated at the time of the accident (approximately 9:30 PM), that is why he left his boat floating and fled the state. Let's all just be thankful that he had no passengers with him when it happened, and that he himself (or any others) didn't turn out to be another casualty of this sport that we all love. Boats are repairable, people's lives are not.

I agree Dale 100%

ok, I could care less about who or why the dude left, but I would like to know.

what does cause a cat to do a low speed roll or better yet what do you do to keep it from happening?

So going forward all incidents are now taboo to discuss...you can't have it one way for the stooge who f's up and another for the connected or well heeled.

Never criticize a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. That way he'll be a mile away and you'll have his shoes! :party-smiley-004:

Seriously though, I don't know the guy. Don't really care abt his motives either. Doubtful I'll ever even own a cat but I'm still a bit curious how this happens and how it can be prevented.

Leaving an unmarked obstacle in the water at night is a bit selfish to say the least. Should have notified someone, even if it was anonymously.

I don't think the boat was "left" in the water overnight....it seems like it was pulled out right away. I don't have any first hand knowledge, but my guess is the owner probably called to get it recovered / towed out.

NOPE,

I was told: Owner made no contact the night of the accident, it was "seized" under investigation through the water patrol and "tow company" took and has possession at this point.

If that’s true, was a dive team involved to search for the occupants of the boat? If so, that’s fu*ked up.

That was my first thought. What a waste of resources.

Based on the news reports the following day on local radio, and piecing together comments from both forums, I don’t believe any search was conducted. Sounds like the communications between the person in the water and the person on the shore turned it into just a boat retrieval operation.

Well you just said above only one person knows that 100%

I think this depends on your stature in society and your level of wealth. The guy who grounded his AT sure made the oso news, but this guy who seemingly evaded a BWI the expensive way will avoid any chatter.

there must be more to this......if the operator was impaired then he has no right to keep this private many of us do not drink and boat and do not respect those who do..... or did it have a joe Biden wrap with flags flying? maybe a hot Russian spy was aboard with bill Clinton?

Really? The story could be good advice on how to avoid legal repercussions for making poor personal decisions.

Glad no one was seriously injured. Seems like an expensive lesson to learn. I can’t imagine insurance covering this loss, given the circumstances.

I would imagine he will be charged leaving the scene and in MO if there is over $1000.00 in damage it is a class d Felony . thats a worse charge than the BWI.

Insurance companies insure accidental, whether stupid or not every day.

After investigations....

My wife and I had 65 years combined working for the largest P&C carrier in the US. Stupid is not a reason for denial. That's defined as accidental. Fraud is a reason for denial, and you would be surprised how many times those get paid too because proving it is a biotch. You can total your car being DUI, you were stupid, you will get cancelled by the company, but it is not fraud or intentional damage so the insurance pays.

Not likely as long as he files a report at some point. The law does not define the time frame of when report must be filed.

306.140.Accident or collision, duties of operator — report required, when. — 1. It shall be the duty of the operator of a watercraft involved in a collision, accident, or other casualty, so far as the operator can do so without serious danger to the operator's watercraft, crew and passengers, to render to other persons affected by the collision, accident, or other casualty assistance as may be practicable and as may be necessary in order to save them from or minimize any danger caused by the collision, accident, or other casualty, and also to give his or her name, address, and identification of his or her watercraft in writing to any person injured and to the owner of any property damaged in the collision, accident, or other casualty.

  2. In the case of collision, accident, or other casualty involving a watercraft, the operator thereof, if the collision, accident, or other casualty results in death or injury to a person or damage to property in excess of five hundred dollars, shall file with the water patrol division a full description of the collision, accident, or other casualty, including such information as the patrol may, by regulation, require.

  306.210.Penalties for violations. — Any person who violates any of the provisions of sections 306.015 to 306.060 and 306.090 to 306.150 for which no other penalty is provided is guilty of a class B misdemeanor.

that could be debated i guess it will depend on the PA

So how did the driver get to shore? Did he swim? Let’s talk about implication. Who witnessed the accident, when was it reported? Leaving a vessel of that worth floating upside down not only stinks, but is a complete disregard for public safety. And we have a moderator stating he would be lips sealed if it were him? This whole story stinks.

Typical politics of this sport!

https://www.lakeexpo.com/boating/boa...ticle-nav-next another mystery?

The only good advice regarding that topic is to not make poor personal decisions! :cool: Otherwise, I’d recommend you gain advice on how to fix your f-ups from your attorney! Again, glad no one was seriously injured.....which is the most important part of any accident!

Entitlement - the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.

That's 70% of society these days.

+1 on nobody getting hurt/killed.

A neighbor rolled his Caddy SUV a couple years back. Spent the day out in the sun, then ended up at a bar nearby while his wife was out of town. He hopped a curb in a traffic circle and the embankment drop off allowed the vehicle to slow roll onto its side. He was going the wrong direction to his house, someone stopped to help and he persuaded them to give him a ride home for $100, leaving the Caddy in the ditch. Cops went to his house for a wellness check, he didn't answer the door. He called his lawyer the next morning, lawyer answered all the questions for the police, he never personally spoke with the cops. Tow yard released the SUV to the bodyshop/insurance company. Nothing to pursue after that, car was fixed then traded. My neighbor is retired LEO, he knew the procedures

Actually, I said he has a right to be private. As would I.

Why should he(or I) engage in any way with the people here about what happened?

If he is in contact with authorities then that is all he owes anyone. Timing may be questioned, but it still doesn't mean he needs to explain his decisions to anyone without a vested interest, like the insurance co, police, etc

A great example of this is the infamous fountain spin out. I still see non boaters on Facebook sharing the most recent dub step remix every few months. That go pro should have gone swimming when that happened.

I still havent watched any of those videos, i saw the original one. my friend was working at pbc when that happened and he met the owner and said he was such a good guy... i just feel bad for him, people got hurt. i cant laugh at it because Ive had my own mistakes...

I still cant believe they posted that up so fast when that happened.

It had all the viral ingredients, women in bikinis, fast boats and a crash!

This guy exploded on Tik Tok and its been a windfall for everyone. Truck broke down, he rides his skateboard to work while drinking Ocean Spray singing dreams by Fleetwood Mac. Mick Fleetwood did a tribute video to the guy AND Ocean Spray bought the guy a brand new truck because the exposure was so great. They said a superbowl commercial wouldn't have been as great as this 20 second video! I don't get it

I still laugh at the "What Is Love Dubstep" version of the video. My understanding is that none of the injuries were serious. You don't see remixes of the double fatal cat blowover from a few years ago. And, yes, the GoPro should have gone swimming!

It is odd that boat occasionally are left in unusual places after sunset.