I agree, I would have been all over it when it showed up at Phantom, but I am 90% into a 34 build.
I just want a mid size Cig or Apache to go with the Phantom and then call it a day on the boat stuff.
My thoughts on the price are only based on shop chatter and speculation, not hard info.
offshoredrillin
01-10-2021 08:44 AM
if you got it even at 99, in year it will be worth 150 in my opinion. the market for quality preowned is getting thinner.
Relaxing
01-10-2021 09:20 AM
Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
(Post 4772545)
if you got it even at 99, in year it will be worth 150 in my opinion. the market for quality preowned is getting thinner.
The used market is only going to get smaller on this style of boat, and trying to find a clean one is not easy.
hoodoo
01-10-2021 09:30 AM
I understand the appreciation of Cigarettes and Apaches but does this trickle down to less iconic stuff like Scarabs, Sutphens, etc?
pm203
01-10-2021 10:00 AM
I would say yes. Maybe not at the same level, but most likely yes.
Pez Man
01-10-2021 10:04 AM
Originally Posted by Eddienel
(Post 4772525)
That boat looks bigger then 35. How fast with the twin 500's? 75?
I had the 35 Playboy with twin 500's, ran 83.
offshoredrillin
01-10-2021 10:08 AM
Originally Posted by Pez Man
(Post 4772559)
I had the 35 Playboy with twin 500's, ran 83.
yup and its easy to get the 500's up to 625plus hp and still run it on 87 and have a bullet proof pkg.
F-2 Speedy
01-10-2021 10:08 AM
Their a guy on here that has a 39 Sutphen Zule power and #6 drives and priced around 70k and cant get a buyer, so I dont think its across the board of high performance brands
ICDEDPPL
01-10-2021 10:18 AM
uniquely branded as “Tiger 35” as the previous owner’s wife did not want him to buy a “Playboy” boat.
I`d rename it "I guess you`re staying on shore 35. "
Jupiter Sunsation
01-10-2021 10:39 AM
Originally Posted by hoodoo
(Post 4772554)
I understand the appreciation of Cigarettes and Apaches but does this trickle down to less iconic stuff like Scarabs, Sutphens, etc?
I think the biggest obstacle to older boats is insurance/financing........anything over 20 years gets tough to find either. Add in non-merc/big power, high valuations and it really gets tough then when you can bind coverage it is expensive.
The Spirit of Apache is probably the top condition Apache out there and they dumped huge money into it and I think the first actual sale price was 300-400K (after a 1.2mm build and asking huge money to start). So while the sale price might be a benchmark for Apaches, it was still a 60%+/- loss. The 41 Apache Ultimate Warrior had similar numbers 600K build, asking 199K.
This Cig just had 50K dumped in it, surely a 99K sale isn't making the guy any money but it should be a nice boat to own/run for the next few years.
There was a 28 Magnum called Powder Keg for sale 10-15 years ago. Small block twins, I think it even had alpha drives on it (it was a goofy powertrain) but it was restored to an over the top level and it was 30-35K. Just a cool old boat that was timeless, small enough to use in any lake, easy to tow, small enough to tuck into a barn. No idea what happened to it, but it would have been a cool boat to own for very little money.
