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hoodoo 02-16-2021 07:39 PM

Those ^^^^ are Yukon Territory #’s.

Griff 02-17-2021 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by Eddienel (Post 4777695)
They are threatening to cut power off in certain areas here because of the grid. Ive got gas heat so Im good. This is definitely new for us and now they are calling for 100% chance of rain/sleet tomorrow but a high of 34. Not quite sure what thats going to do with the 4 or 5 inches of slow/ice we already have.

99% of people still need electricity with Natural Gas heat. All the controls, igniter and blower fan are electric.

Griff 02-17-2021 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by 1BIGJIM (Post 4777786)
I am going to Colorado skiing to warm up. This is brutal :party-smiley-048:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...53465baf41.jpg

It was brutal Monday night/Tues morning.
On Sunday when it was about -5* my Duramax's fuel gelled up and had to get towed home. It was treated, but obviously not enough. Some Diesel 911, more treatment and thank god for a heated garage and all was good the next day in the -20* drive home from work Mon night. Its crazy when it was 0* today and it didn't feel that bad.

thirdchildhood 02-17-2021 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by hoodoo (Post 4777785)
When do you typically get out on the water?
Late May or so?

Oh, nooo. I keep a log. First outing last spring was April 8 and it was 68* and sunny! 2019 was April 22 and it was 70 and sunny. Final day last year was October 9 and it was 77 and sunny!

thirdchildhood 02-17-2021 07:44 AM

-16 north of Detroit this morning.https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5a36fa93e3.jpg

Bostonirish 02-17-2021 07:46 AM

Curious ... how's that water situation ? Is there a lot of broken water mains ? Services ? I can't imagine the water mains are very deep in the ground down there . Our mains and house services are usually a min of 5 feet deep to stay below the frost .

hoodoo 02-17-2021 08:28 AM

[QUOTE=thirdchildhood;4777814]Oh, nooo. I keep a log. First outing last spring was April 8 and it was 68* and sunny! 2019 was April 22 and it was 70 and sunny. Final day last year was October 9 and it was 77 and sunny![/QUOTE



Thats good. In Idaho it’s more like Memorial Day weekend and that can be dicy some years.
They can have a really nice day or two in April but they sneak up on ya so it’s hard to take advantage of them.

Taboma 02-17-2021 09:21 AM

Our water lines (service lines) are, maybe 18" below grade. Mains are deeper, but we are experiencing low water pressure due to main breaks. Even the sanitary sewers are freezing shut.
Yesterday morning, the low was -17F. Last nite another 5" of snow.
Rolling blackouts likely. Fear of loss of natural gas service due to frozen well heads.
As I stated previously in this thread, if gas service is cut, the gas company is required to physically inspect each residence prior to turning on the gas due to pilot light issues.
With 500,000 people in our metro, that task could take weeks.

Interceptor 02-17-2021 09:41 AM

Although it's cold in northern Michigan we still lack safe ice to sail iceboats in many places. This happened recently on Lake Leelanau.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ff187bd4cc.jpg

Interceptor 02-17-2021 09:42 AM

Google the winter of 1977-1978. Epic.

F-2 Speedy 02-17-2021 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4777832)
Google the winter of 1977-1978. Epic.

I remember, we were in western KS pheasant hunting and it snowed 15 inches in one night, they closed I-70 from Denver CO to Topeka KS, we were stuck in a popup camper for 3 additional days

Canuck B Crazy 02-17-2021 10:41 AM

Its sunny here today. Snow has melted. Should hit around 40. Normal weather for our area this time of year. The boat show is usually on and its a light jacket and jeans type outdoors event. It was cancelled this year do to covid.

Bostonirish 02-17-2021 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Taboma (Post 4777828)
Our water lines (service lines) are, maybe 18" below grade. Mains are deeper, but we are experiencing low water pressure due to main breaks. Even the sanitary sewers are freezing shut.
Yesterday morning, the low was -17F. Last nite another 5" of snow.
Rolling blackouts likely. Fear of loss of natural gas service due to frozen well heads.
As I stated previously in this thread, if gas service is cut, the gas company is required to physically inspect each residence prior to turning on the gas due to pilot light issues.
With 500,000 people in our metro, that task could take weeks.

that's insane! Best of luck to you guys down there

Eddienel 02-17-2021 10:57 AM

Im sitting here in a panic looking at all the ice on the roofs of my boat house, awning and camper cover. Of course there is almost no pitch. Why would you need a lot of pitch in Louisiana? It never snows here. Praying everything melts before it all collapses. Starting to hear stories of roofs collapsing. Oh well. Nothing I can do about it now.

Knot 4 Me 02-17-2021 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4777832)
Google the winter of 1977-1978. Epic.

Yup. I was a teenager here in the middle of Illinois and it was brutal. We had a ranch house that I was able to walk up onto the roof from a snow drift at the back of the house. We took trucks out after the V-plows finally cleared Rt 29 off and the walls of snow on either side were over your head in many places were the road dipped down.

1BIGJIM 02-17-2021 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4777800)
It was brutal Monday night/Tues morning.
On Sunday when it was about -5* my Duramax's fuel gelled up and had to get towed home. It was treated, but obviously not enough. Some Diesel 911, more treatment and thank god for a heated garage and all was good the next day in the -20* drive home from work Mon night. Its crazy when it was 0* today and it didn't feel that bad.

Interesting mine also is in heated garage but I have not started it since Friday. Stay safe out there😎

hoodoo 02-17-2021 11:54 AM

Just saw were Rush Limbaugh died.
RIP

hoodoo 02-17-2021 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4777832)
Google the winter of 1977-1978. Epic.

We had an inch of snow here in SW FL in 1977.

endeavor1 02-17-2021 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by hoodoo (Post 4777859)
Just saw were Rush Limbaugh died.
RIP

RIP Rush

1960brookwood 02-17-2021 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4777832)
Google the winter of 1977-1978. Epic.

Was a student at GVSU then--snow covered most of the second story windows in the dorms along the ravine . We rode snowmobiles through the "s" curve in downtown GR and spent several days delivering medication to those that could not get out. The next Christmas was shorts weather!

Eddienel 02-18-2021 07:22 AM

Praying for Texas and everyone without power. Me and a neighbor decided to do vodka shots and go play. Horrible idea. My head is pounding this morning but we had a good time from what I remember.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c99b02b280.jpg

Donzi1979 02-18-2021 10:58 AM

I can tell you first hand here in the DFW area we will have an epic mess for the next couple of weeks. One gas stations don't have fuel no deliveries all week, (thankfully the boat has a 100 gallons and I can siphon if needed.) , second as we thaw millions of homes will have busted plumbing already seeing this with friends and neighbors, and the water supply is terrible with people running water and busted water mains everywhere. Also groceries and bottle water is wiped-out again no deliveries. It's the worst I have seen in my 41 years of living here.

Matt Trulio 02-18-2021 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Donzi1979 (Post 4777960)
I can tell you first hand here in the DFW area we will have an epic mess for the next couple of weeks. One gas stations don't have fuel no deliveries all week, (thankfully the boat has a 100 gallons and I can siphon if needed.) , second as we thaw millions of homes will have busted plumbing already seeing this with friends and neighbors, and the water supply is terrible with people running water and busted water mains everywhere. Also groceries and bottle water is wiped-out again no deliveries. It's the worst I have seen in my 41 years of living here.

Is the fuel shortage a product of refinery shutdowns in your area, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN2AF1QV.

Stay safe.

Donzi1979 02-18-2021 12:07 PM

I think that, and no tanker trucks making delivers to the stations. Also still lots of areas with no power.

Dean Ferry 02-18-2021 12:23 PM

And my boss just asked to travel to Great Lakes Naval Station in North Chicago this Sunday for a week! At least is not below 0 for the next week......

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l...0e0017011e0a47


zz28zz 02-18-2021 03:31 PM

We got abt 1/2" of ice to start off this event. Trees/branches down everywhere. Power lines pulled down. Roads blocked. Spent the first night (till abt 5AM) melting ice with my torpedo heater, drying and plastic wrapping abt 30 trees we just planted. Prop'ed-up the branches of larger live oaks with 2x4's, large diameter PVC pipe, ladders and whatever else I could find.

Electric space heaters of any type are nowhere to be found. Same for propane/gas heaters.

No kerosene available anywhere. Luckily I learned that the torpedo heater will start and run fine (at single digit temps) on diesel if mixed with gasoline. (4 parts diesel to 1 part gas). This little tidbit of info saved my ass. Was able to keep my insulated shop (where boat is stored) above freezing so far using the torpedo heater and my portable gas generator. Thank God I still had abt 25 gallons of treated boat gas left from de-fueling ops.

Next 2 days temps dropped to single digits. Got abt 6" of snow then another 1/4" of ice on top of the snow. Got text saying rolling blackouts would last no longer than 40 mins. First "rolling blackout" lasted over 13 hrs. House pipes froze, well house froze, septic system froze, pool equip froze, even the in-ground pool froze over abt 1/2" thick. Following blackouts lasted between 4 and 8 hrs. Power company says they can't perform proper rolling blackouts because there were no more "non-critical" circuits they could cut. Some have been w/o power for 50+ hrs.

Even virtual schools closed all week due to sporadic power, internet and cell phone service availability.

All stores that sell propane closed or out of supply. Line to get propane tanks re-filled at local distributor was many hours long. Gave up there and drove an hr away to spend >2 hrs standing in line just to re-fill two 20lb containers . Local grocery store had a line to get in that was over 1/4 mile long. Heard food delivery to stores have also been temporarily halted due to road conditions.

Local news showed many Austin apt complexes (towers) had broken pipes and water flowing from most of the balconies. Had some folks that died of carbon monoxide poisoning trying to stay warm. Elderly folks outside slipping/falling and unable to get up, freezing to death. Busted my butt going down tile steps. Luckily the ~7" thick ice/snow/ice layers absorbed some of the impact to my elbow. At least 6 water main breaks in Austin. Boil water alert until further notice.

Natural gas press dropping very low so folks that had gas heaters froze too. People are beyond pissed after seeing empty parking garages/parking lots, abandoned construction sites and empty office buildings remained powered while everyone else froze. Power Restoration Crews are even being verbally and physically assaulted.

This weekend's thaw will certainly reveal a massive number of broken pipes. Assuming it will be weeks before the plumbers can catch up. What a mess!!


bajaholic 02-18-2021 03:36 PM

They have always said: "Everything is bigger in TX". Unfortunately this is the one time...

Good luck, hope things get back on track soon!

F-2 Speedy 02-18-2021 03:47 PM

Evergy in my area just sent an email out saying the power reductions are over, back to normal operations, this is a horrible event but it will generate millions in revenue for a lot of companies having to fix everything, my mom lives in Gainsville TX and lost power a few days ago she's been staying at my sisters about 10 mls away, today she goes home to a party flooded house, the only lucky thing was the water dept was in the area and saw the water running down the drive and shut it off.

zfrilly 02-18-2021 03:54 PM

I imagine there will be many many boats that were not winterized and have busted blocks. Revenue even for marinas and engine builders.

zz28zz 02-18-2021 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by zfrilly (Post 4778015)
I imagine there will be many many boats that were not winterized and have busted blocks. Revenue even for marinas and engine builders.

For sure. Lake Travis has thousands of boats slipped year round. I bet most of them were not properly winterized and lost power for extended periods.
With Merc already having supply issues due to the scamdemic, getting this many new engines will take forever..

ICDEDPPL 02-18-2021 06:08 PM

Jesus fuc K!! and I thought 2020 was a bad year.
Wow!

cheech 02-19-2021 10:08 AM

Where's all the winter is great, I like the cold, We need a white Christmas people at? :bong:
Winter, snow, extreme cold SUCKS!
It could all go away for all I care.

Best of luck to anyone dealing with this in these areas!

Dean Ferry 02-19-2021 10:30 AM

Talked with a buddy in Abilene Tx last night, he never lost power, (Admits he is 1 of the lucky ones...) he said (6) people have FROZE to death there in the Abilene area, Horrible!

Donzi1979 02-19-2021 10:33 AM

I agree I hate this weather anyway and now with an infrastructure that doesn't do well with it plus the huge population increase here and our massive heat waves, I'm shopping for a whole home generator in a few months when this calms down to run off my propane and support a well. As of now we have been with out water for 6 days. Lucky for us as we are in a semi rural area and have stayed with power but have issues during other parts of the year especially with storms. My main concern with events like this is the plumbing damage (water damage in the the house) and destroying pool equipment as a lot of my friends are facing right now. Some of them will have damage in the 10s of thousands some pools might be a total loss (I know first world problems). Retirement will be in Florida as I have said for years and this just confirms it.

hoodoo 02-19-2021 11:34 AM

Florida’s full up.
If you come anyway, please remember this sign. lol
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4ea270c15.jpeg

Donzi1979 02-19-2021 01:52 PM

There's a reason I've lived here my whole life but that red is starting to turn more blue in metro areas. It's amazing that everyone wants the government to help with this situation. Some minor prep that a lot of us did goes a long way. Like shut the water off and drain if the powers out, amazing how main people don't know how. Or have firewood just basic things on hand.

36Tango 02-20-2021 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by snapmorgan (Post 4777686)
Coal, oil and gas are looking pretty good right now when the wind turbines are frozen in place and the solar panels are buried under a foot of snow. 85 here yesterday and calling for 80 today. That is the main reason that I moved from Indiana.

A week ago I left Cape Coral in the mid 70’s and landed in Iowa at minus 12 (real temp, windchills in the minus 30’s). Yesterday we hit 20 and it felt like a heat wave!!! Looking forward to when we can at least winter down there,

Jupiter Sunsation 02-20-2021 09:04 AM

S Florida was HOT this week, like upper 80s all week. This morning it was 61 and clear blue sky. I'm likely headed to Southport Raw Bar for lunch today, perfect weather for sitting on the back patio there!

https://www.southportrawbar.com/

Jupiter Inlet Cam:
Jupiter Inlet Webcam

hoodoo 02-20-2021 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Donzi1979 (Post 4778142)
There's a reason I've lived here my whole life but that red is starting to turn more blue in metro areas. It's amazing that everyone wants the government to help with this situation. Some minor prep that a lot of us did goes a long way. Like shut the water off and drain if the powers out, amazing how main people don't know how. Or have firewood just basic things on hand.



Was the forecast botched or nobody paid attention?
A lot of people think weather is just that stuff outside their window, until it kicks their ass.

1960brookwood 02-20-2021 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by hoodoo (Post 4778240)
Was the forecast botched or nobody paid attention?
A lot of people think weather is just that stuff outside their window, until it kicks their ass.

Nobody paid attention--or cared--this was forecast 2 weeks out. Here in the North our wind generators turn year round and natural gas pipelines work in sub zero weather???

“So much of this was avoidable,” O’Rourke said this week on an interview with MSNBC. “Going back to the deregulation of our electricity grid in Texas, which has created an incentive to actually not weatherize or protect against these events.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/18/texa...industry-.html


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