Velocity 430 w 450Rs
 

Been following Reggie 3 on IG and this popped up.

https://www.velocityboats.com/430VRX.html

I love it except it needs the style of windlass that’s below the deck. 82mph with twin 450Rs. Full cabin and AC.

Nice looking boat and I like having a windlass but concede, it’s difficult to incorporate in a ‘pointy’ bow but I think there’s room for improvement.
Maybe Reggie 3 is getting a few ideas to share for an outboard powered Lightning, or even an Executioner? There’s several older conversions been done now……Hint….Hint…🙂

RR

Not bad. How long before we get a mid to upper 30s footer with one 600 on it? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....

Sweet boat, I'd rather have the anchor on the bow than having to get it out of a locker.

Sweet Looking Boat!

Padraig

Nice big cockpit, but definitely needs triples. Although twin 860's gets you into triple digits.

Why does it have 100MPH embroidered on the seats if it only goes 82MPH?

Lol, just like Lots of boats that have world champion on them, that aren’t. :) One may have done it, but not all. They just sll get the graphics/embroidery. Just round table talk. I agree, 100mph and that boat foesn’t do it is tacky and i wouldn’t want it (embroidery) Lol.

Btw: Great looking boat. Schweet !

I don’t know the whole back story but it would appear that he isn’t affiliated with fountain or iconic marine group.

Looks like he’s building or work with velocity now.

An extra $55k for another 450R would probably get close. I like the symmetry and simplicity of twins though.

never.

1. It isn't made for that type of application, it isn't a high reving motor and is designed to push big heavy boats.

2. You can do two Merc 300R's which will be much better for that size and style and both 300's weight about 200lbs less than one 600.

I’m sure it would work great in a single app. Counter rotating props mean it wouldn’t prop walk. And it’s got a 2 speed transmission which would make it speedy.

But you’re right about the weight. And the $/hp is higher than twin 300s, so I doubt you’ll see many people do it for that reason.

I would assume it is a reference to Velocity breaking the 100 mph barrier in a production boat, the 30’ with 475 hp Merc motors back in the day. It was used for marketing back then. A reference to a brand breaking barriers and being fast.

Exactly

Just like the 1 on the side of a lot of boats:party-smiley-004:

Well I think it's an incredible accomplishment to hit 82mph in a 43ft luxury boat with twin 450R's. That's a boat I'd be very happy with. Hard for me to warm up to a boat with three outboards and I flat turnoff when I see 4 or more outboards. To me, any V bottom 33ft+ in length with a cabin that can be used and can run close to 70 with twin outboards is the sweet spot, so I'm blown away at the speed numbers for this boat considering the size.

Great accomplishment I agree for sure, nice lines except for the windless exposed (JMO). But keep in mind it is 8'3" wide and dry is only 7200#. Not many 42' boats on that big of a diet. I wonder about the rigidity of it, but then again in the age of technology it may be just as solid as an old battle wagon from one of the other big 3 out there, I have left the names of the innocent out for protection lol.

Pretty sure its the same hull mold the old 39/41 comes from the added length is just the bracket.

Weight was 8400 lbs? Scott had a thread on Facebook where everyone was guessing. Either way for what the client wanted it is a nice setup.

Great looking and it runs 82 on twins, winner!

I'd omit the 100 mph stitching and put the anchor in a locker then add a bimini top! :D

Hmmmmm funny it doesn't have a Bimini, maybe not done yet that is surprising. Like Scott has said, want a fast one with the suggestions, call him he will build it! LOL.

Its like most of the boats built now from all brands, they are ordered and built to what the paying customer wants. Velocity has been kicking the 29's out the door like crazy, have to give it to them. They are doing well and that is good news no matter what we all think or would want.

I like the look of the boat and don't think the outboards look out of place. Who is involved with velocity now? When I owned my velocity years ago Steve and Kenny were still around, but then heard Velocity was bought out. I saw a velocity 26' bay boat a few years back that had a mass price reduction. When I asked the dealer why the huge price drop I was told that velocity had closed down. Glad to hear they are still around making fast boats. My 280 was fun boat.

Scott Mccormick who used to work there and also raced Velocities is one of the primary's. I know others but they are not public in their part. The plant is not far from the old building they used to be in. Wlater Braithwaite is VP of sales and Marketing. Very active on Facebook.

All composite construction now of course.

Hey Fellas,


Been a long time since I have posted but saw this thread come through my email. I sold my 99 Velocity 280 that I had for 20 years this spring and have been looking at a new Velocity 290SC with twin OB's. So I've been following Velocity for a while now on social media and trading emails with Scott and Walt. Here are a few answers to your questions and some general things to know..


I will say that I am planning on ordering one next year. My quandary is that I love the 300R engines compared to the 400R but do I go with the 100MPH embroidered seats that look super cool when the boat only does 93-94 with the 300R's? I could probably put a pair of cleavers on it and eek out 100 if I needed the legitimacy. Or maybe I just get the 400R's and deal with the potential shorter lifespan, not quite as easy maintenance, and not as great sound. I keep hoping in a year from now Merc will announce a 320R to replace the 300. They came out with a 360APX which is a radical race version of the 300R so I would think they could push the 300R to a 320 in the future and keep it reliable for the consumer. Time will tell..


Anyhow here are my notes and observations on Velocity Powerboats. The management there by the way has been nothing but very gracious and responsive to any emails I send their way!

1.) They are and have been very busy building new boats the past year and a half. Most of these are the new twin OB design 290SC model.

2.) They've been expanding and hiring because of the order back log which is great news!

3.) The 290SC model does go over 100MPH with twin Mercury Racing 400R and Max5 ST props. I've heard 104+ and if you pause some of their Facebook video's in the right spot you can see 101-102. Keep in mind they have only sold a few of these and have not had a lot of seat time getting the performance perfectly dialed in.

4.) They also show a video of a 290SC with twin 450R's but I have not seen word yet of top speed. Probably around 110-112 if I had to take a guesstimate which is insane in that size and hull boat.

5.) I have not yet seen a 320SC with twin OB's. I'd love to purchase a 320SC instead of the 290SC for the added cockpit room but honestly the pricing is already up on all the models by 25% because of supply chain, COVID increases, and supply/demand for this boat style and I have to draw the line at around 250-300k which is what a well decked out 290SC is averaging.

6.) Build quality from my old 1999 seems significantly better and I like the new paint scheme options.

7.) They appear to be from my research one of the only few performance boat manufacturer's doing a nice clean twin OB performance boat and actively promoting and posting info on social media.

8.) My only gripe of the new Velocity is that they need a larger dashboard that can accommodate twin screens larger than 5" simrads.


The video of the black, red, and white 290SC with Twin 400R's that they have listed on Facebook and Youtube is outstanding. I'm going a bit crazy without a boat now and love this thing.. I watch that video once a week as I think it looks awesome! They definitely have a bit of a niche carved out in this segment of the performance boating world.


- Mitch

WHY double everything else? Even the headaches, and I'm sure the single 600 is more efficient.

+1, I'm a velocity fan, but the twin outboard 290SC misses the mark. The water access is pretty much non-existent the way the outboards are mounted. The cockpit is also not extended. So what's the point of the outboards then? It's pretty obvious what the point is with the 430 as you get a nice walk thru transom with generous swim platform incorporated into the outboard bracket. You get a huge lounger off the back that can be used while underway, and you get an extra row of bolster seats and the weight saved allows for decent performance numbers.

For me at least the extra safety with having a second motor is paramount. I boat on Lake Erie and the upper niagara river which has a very high current and can be very dangerous for a boater who has lost power or had a mechanical problem. Additionally, twin engines can be slightly better maneuvering around docks. Maintenance on outboards is easier than my old I/O was and the 300R's are supposed to be one of the easiest from a maintenance and access standpoint. If I let a little extra maintenance scare me, I would never be a boat owner lol!

Actually, your cockpit comments are not true. You would understand if you took some time to review their Facebook pages thoroughly or speak with them. Firstly, the standard cockpit that is shown in most of the pictures for the 290SC has about an extra 10-12" between the driver/passenger seats and the rear bench seat compared to my old Velocity 280 w/Mercruiser. Secondly, they have an optional interior that shrinks down the sunning pad significantly and puts wrap around seating in the back. It opens up the cockpit a bit more and adds more seating space. I personally however like to lay on the sun pad with my wife in the summer. Sure it's a little tighter to climb in and out of the water but I'm not doing that constantly. Certain things in a boat that size can be a trade off. The Velocity 320SC (once I see pictures of the OB model) should have a nice amount of space in the cockpit comparatively.

Honestly, that "rationalization" isn't worth anything in the 21st century... engines just don't quit or break like that, I'm thinking bad fuel is about as bad as it gets now-a-days.

Honestly, that "rationalization" isn't worth anything in the 21st century... engines just don't quit or break like that, I'm thinking bad fuel is about as bad as it gets now-a-days.

12 cylinders

Cost more than two 300R's

Heavier than twin 300R's

And HUGE, not even sure the dimensions/set up to get it sitting right.

So where again is the benefit other than saying "I have a merc 600"?

You are incorrect, sorry. .

It is very clear engine failure is still a very common thing across all brands and usually electronic/senor issues causing them.

Agreed Nate, not to mention these are not car engines. Marine engines go through a hell of a lot more abuse and are constantly in wet environments.

I look at longevity too as part of the equation. I know of a lot more OB's that are still running strong today after many many years of service compared to big blocks. The new 300R has a ZERO Maintenance valve train, what's the requirement on a Mercruiser Big Block to replace the top end after how many hours of service?

Can you imagine if Modern cars were as reliable as modern boats? LOL

Not a fair comparison of the BBC based Merc motors and the new 300 OB. I know I have said this a ton of times but lets be fair, the BBC was designed as a replacement for the W motor, in the very early 60's. Heck if they would at least used a LS design they would have something half way new. But Merc and every has decided to put the engineering in OB's.

As for the 300R, I would think that has to be a pretty reliable motor. Its 4.6L and only 300 HP, not like that is a lot of HP per CU IN. Plus the 450 is the same base motor but with a SC and its proven to be pretty reliable, for someone like me I would love to have a go fast V with two on the back. Didn't hit the power ball so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

they are laying up a carbon vr1 right now. personally like the new 42 neat layout. I would do away with the sink and loungers for another row of bolsters and bench seat.

Sorry, didn't quite see that, but can see some pics on their website now. The extended cockpit looks good. They should add it to their list of options because it's not obvious.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CYSIWK8...dium=copy_link

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The really long service intervals are one very nice feature.

Looks like it has a bow thruster in one of the last pixs.

I like it but yeah, 450R’s.

And it has enough room for a boarding ladder under the corner of the bracket.

Im an OMC OB guy but, the new Merc 4 strokes changed everything!

Id own one.

whats the price point on this unit ?

you know what they say...if you have to ask, you can't afford it! Lol

599K

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/202...0-vrx-8042929/

If it's built anything like my 280, it's incredible. I've launched my 280 more than 10' off the water in big waves on Lake Huron. My wife stayed on the dock and she could see the entire boat over the harbor breakwall. I was going way too fast fast in water way to rough and the stern caught a wave and spun me sideways into the next wave. I went from 75 to 0 instantly, cracked a few ribs and some days I still walk with a limp. The boat doesn't even have a gel crack. I've been out in 5-6' waves in other boats you could feel them flex even going slow. I don't worry about my motor breaking down, I worry about the drive. I've broken mine twice and always in the middle of nowhere. I got caught in a storm once with an outboard boat in 10-12' waves. I had to go 2 miles to get to the harbor. By the time I got there I had broken every internal motor mount and lost all throttle control. If your a fair weather boater pretty much anything will last.