Thank You Sir! It’s all legit. Read my replies. Obviously, “weakness” have followers on this site. And just to think someone suggested me to come to this site!! It’s a JOKE!! I’m just going to keep it reel. It’s individual’s that keep people from these , so called formative platforms. But I get it, life is GOOD.

Good to hear from you BamBam.
I have two posts showing on here, first was supportive, then I lost interest and changed my mind. I truly hope you post pics of a new ride in the near future and prove me wrong. We all get things wrong occasionally but we all still love big nasty offshore powerboats. 🙂

If the boat is still very undecided, I’d go back to your thread about a Cigarette and Formula. Great boats, relatively easy to learn on and both fairly easy to sell if you outgrow it.

Happy shopping,

RR

Thank You, Brother! I really appreciate that, and I will look at what you suggested. I just want to live out my father’s Dream. When I was younger, my father and his partner had a year I fist got on a Offshore racer, I was 13yrs of age. He had an the exact year was current, 1977’ 38’ Scarab. It was absolutely gorgeous and fast! I always said “one day”. Well after my pop’s last October,, I said it’s time, now 58yrs. Fortunately I take of my self, so no one believes my age Lol. I am a adrenaline junkie, but not crazy and I truly understand my limits. Maybe just maybe 90-100mph, one year. So, after reading several post , that’s what I presumed, to get a larger boat, that was the only reason why I started this thread, to get a clear understanding which size and first Offshore. I wish you and your family all the best Brother, and please be safe! Hope one day we meet💯💯💯

The reason you're catching flak from the forum is justified...sorry. These big boats (or any for that matter) with stupid horsepower are dangerous machines, some of the members of this forum have lost family members, and friends who were skilled and schooled and that have been in the sport for decades and still got stung. For a first timer to get in one is absurd.

Does Tres also have a spelling and/or grammar class? Just curious :whistle:

. Thank You, I’ll ask Mr. Martin

Thank You Brother, and I am very sorry to hear such tragic loss. I agree about the dangerous side of it. Unfortunately, it’s not a toy, it’s real. I get it, there are definitely different ways, of conveying that to individuals. Not the BS, and quack response’s. Nothing positive, with that being said, I’m a grown man, not a child.

Sir, a lot has changed in the world of performance boating since your ride in a 1977 Scarab.

If you read old threads on this forum, there has been a lot of posers that made the exact claim as you had as the next big runner - not to offend but its the same old M.O.

Have you been in a 140f+ mph cat? You had never stated anything more than the experience in a flat bottom Scarab.... Most stepped V-Hulls are capable of over 100 easily with reliable horsepower. If you are not experienced with a stepped V-hull, you can easily spin out one of these hulls as readily as blowing over a cat - injuring or even killing everyone on board. As previously stated, many have lost close friends to these boats in accidents that were unforeseen and EXTREMELY violent. Quite literally, life jackets at the speed you are talking are only to bring closure to the surviving family members.

If you are serious about a cat, my $0.02 is to take the Tres course - or Grant's or JT for the cat's. Tell them straight up what your intentions are and your experience so they can work with you.

A very good boat for learning to properly run a big cat is the 24 Skater with OB's - that boat FORCES you learn the finesse of trim and throttle control,running through "the hop", handles most water conditions (raced APBA offshore/ and Great Lakes series for years) yet will make your A$$ pucker tight for days after when you are no longer running the boat to water conditions. Everything you are learning from seat time is on a modest budget and the Skater can be resold/ traded up. The 28 Skater runs on rails, the 24' takes more finesse. Finesse in the small boats keeps you honest in the big machines IMHO.

Going straight up to a bigger boat is going to give you a false sense of security/ability and a weekend course is just that - very limited seat time with someone who can tell you what you are doing right and wrong at that moment.

As you stated, you can buy any boat you want - Congrat's on your success. Choosing the right path to your adrenaline fix with a big cat will determine how long you get to enjoy it. Again not to sound condescending but you can youtube several devastating cat blow overs ( or v-hull spin outs/crashes) - some are extremely experienced with years of seat time, others like the fountain on lotto were proven how wrong they were at the expense of harming others. I read your responses about not using the hp.. but if the speed limit is 60, how often do you run with the cruise control at 55mph.

Even the sound of the engines compels you to push for more - LOL.. That is exactly why everyone is on this forum.

Looking forwards to pics of your boat and stories of how your are progressing. There is nothing like a good time out running hard but no one want to hear about another accident/funeral.

Sorry for the long winded post everyone

lol at the gullible few...

Not for nothing, but when the they announced Travis pastrana’s first time in a cat was practice in Geico it was all “atta boy! That’s awesome etc” we don’t know this guys boating experience or motor sports experience. Why the hate? Let him be, think he’s a troll? Ignore him

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Unless you have considerable experience with performance boats stay away from a Cat for your first. When someone says money is no problem on this sight your gonna get some crap. They say BOAT stands for break out another thousand, I spell it BOATT make it ten thousand and often. This is an extremely expensive sport and it can be even more so paying tuition learning. Depending on where your boating 28' to 32' is a good size, Although a 25" single is a great way to learn, remember twins is double everything, and no you don't do anything to one and not both in performance. If you don't buy something with the best of everything you soon will as you will break everything that isn't best. Take the class you wont be disappointed and insure for actual cash value with a survey that states said value. Good luck and I hope that helps!

It is easy to spend $100K and double that in the first couple years so when money is no object that's what we talk about. We break something for $50K and are back in the water in a week or so. Be prepared and make industry friends quickly or you will be parted from your money quicker.

this is good advice. Sorry, but money can’t buy experience and most insurance companies won’t even cover a first time 100+mph boat, even with the training! And trust me, you want the insurance.

That said, length = speed. However, there’s limits. First of all, as you get longer, you get heavier; then you need more HP, i.e. more weight - diminishing returns.

That said, (and everyone knows this so no haters) there’s real limitations on top speed as boats get shorter. Sure there’s 70 mph 15’ racing boats, but your not looking for a single seat 500 lbs boat. If you want to go 100 mph, you probably want at least a 28’ boat, but a 35’ boat will go 100 more comfortable than a 28’. The trade off is you need more hp to do it.

Also, there should be some consideration for docking. It’s obviously easier to find docking for a 23’ boat then a 50’ boat. So, depending on where you’re going this could be an important consideration. I know lots of places where docking is tight. Poker runs are not an issue as everyone side-ties as deep as needed.

Sidebar - I was recently on a poker run and some ******* on the dock with five boats side-tied, cut everyone loose cause he needed to leave.

As others have noted, it’s not about how much boat you can buy; it’s how much boat you can support. Racing engines, drives, etc. require more maintenance. Then tilt trailers, pull rigs, etc etc etc. Then, race gas $$$. When you run with the big dogs you need a big checkbook. You say not a problem, but myself and others want you to know what you’re getting into. It’s black American Express time!

Come to Key West in November
 

Go to Key West in November and view some 40 race boats and talk to the crews. The best fact finding mission where the crews would be happy to enlighten you on your journey. WHM, Allen Lawn Care, Boatfloater, M-Con, FJ Propeller, Sheriff Lobo, Wicked and Outdoor Storage Units to name a few. Some of these guys are engineers who helped design and build their boats and some own marinas. Start from the ground up and learn everything about
the sport including your competitors who may end up being your best friend at a race.
Best of luck on your journey!

Profile says boater girl.
I need a sugar momma, Bam bam let`s pick out a boat together!
We can bam bam on it all you want but I`ll need pics first.

Im too fat and old to be proud, If she buys me a new 52 outerlimits with 1350s and I'll double bag whale surf till the sun comes up.....

Dont you have your hands full already?

Damn I was only gonna ask for Tom Tom

Thank you Brother, for that inspiring message, I will definitely plan my Boating budget accordingly! Also had a wonderful Talk with Mr. Martin, this is going to be an amazing relationship, we both concluded! I plan on having the proper boat that meets , Mr. Martin’s approval. Thank you again, you and your Family, be safe!

Thank You Brother! I’m going to make a safe budget, no ego! not trying to buy the baddest, just the right one to be safe, reliable and ready for advancement, as I advance over the years of experience period. As I stated , I had a very wonderful phone call with Mr Martin, I’ll definitely will be on the right track. Thank you Brother again. You and your family be Safe!

Thank You Brother! Truly appreciate your thoughts. Be Safe you and your Family!

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Perhaps you could share some of the recommendations made by Tres Martin as far as size and Vee or cat, power, speed, etc.

I have been a long time reader of the forum…I just got my first “go almost fast” boat. One hangup I never considered past $ was that every insurance company required that I had owned a boat within 20 mph of the new boat I purchased. Didn’t matter what I had captained, I had to own and insure it. Speed was not the only consideration…it was speed and replacement value. Had it been expensive and slow, no problem…fast and cheap, maybe. My boating history and my insurance company having insured my other boats for the past decade with no claims simply didn’t matter.

So, consider that you may be self insured until you get some experience. I think the school will help you with insurance but the 20mph thing was a hard point. Best advice in here was buy a 35-40 foot 80mph boat and use it for 6 months. If you are committed to this big boat and lifestyle, that is a short time investment and you’ll need to have something to jerk around on while this big bad boat is being built over the next 2 years lol.

There was a nice Formula 292 FasTech listed here on OSO a couple of days ago. Looked beautiful by the pictures. Also said he put it in OSO classifieds.

No Big Bad Boat Brother! Lol . But , I was also told by Mr. Martin, that there is only 2 insurance companies now that are even insuring now. The third one is not putting true value of boat. He also said you have to hold a title for a year, as you said with a less powerful boat. To consider get a Cigarette 700’S or less. As you noted he said 100mph or less , I agree as he said you want a boat that cruises in the mid 70’s but if you need it , it can go into the 90’s. It’s difficult finding a boat of the size he mentioned a 39’ Top Gun or 42X with 700’s or less. The ones I have found are 1100’s to 1100’s/1350’s, which will push that boat to 115-120mph. So, he said there will be boats up for sale in the next 45 days, season will be over for up north. The other issue is I need to be looking for 2012’- Newer, because you would want the Vessel View and digital electronics, which started after 2007’. Performance Boat Center has several Cigarettes, but as I stated bigger engines only. Hopefully I find one. Thank You very much Brother for the insight, I really appreciate it. I wish the best for you and your Family, and enjoy your new boat! Peace