Confused & confirm!
 

Good evening to all. I just recently posted about purchasing first performance boat period. As reading threads, I’m seeing go big if you can! My concern is length verse’s speed. I’m going to Tres Martian school, for boats running 75mph. Just because the boat says 130-60 doesn’t meanI will be running that. I am and will be a responsible heavy safety first boater. I do want a Catamaran, but is 44ft to Big for first? I can obviously afford what ever boat I want, and I mean what ever boats I want. So, 30-50foot. Learning small calm lakes first, before Detroit river and Michigan lakes. 4-5 people at a maximum ride along. Some year, poker runs to! Looking at DCB, Skater, Mti etc, thank you for your help.

I'm sure that everyone has a different opinion, but I would say yes that is to big to start, for one you are going to have to have tilt trailer and all its issues on top of everything else.

Take Tres class first and then work with him about riding in different size boats so you can find what you are comfortable with. everyone is going to be different.

hell I went from a 20' jet boat to a Cigarette and that was a huge jump but his class was priceless

I’d look for a 50-60’ turbine powered cat. Rudder and crash boxes. Less maintenance for your first boat.

Go as big as you like but take a Tres Martin course appropriate to the boat you are buying. On a cat, I’d say a 75 mph course won’t cut it. At some point, you’re gonna want to open the throttles.
BTW. When you talk to him, call him Mr Martin, not Mr “Martian” as you have typoed in your post. 🙂

I’m happy for you the money is at hand for something very nice but bigger is more money to buy and usually goes with bigger engines, bigger storage, bigger insurance, bigger maintenance etc, etc, etc. Be prepared to keep your cheque book open, otherwise the enjoyment of ownership will not last long.

RR

Is Jim Darr back?

What calm small lake are you starting on with a sizeable catamaran ?

Lake Huron is calm a few days out of the year. LOL

with an enclosed cockpit/canopy to stay dry

A guy has a dream and is perusing it, asking important questions and he gets this bashing BS for answers. Tres M. are good suggestions, others?
All while people ask why the post count is so much lower.

well, when someone whom we dont know and is only a screen name says they can "obviously afford whatever he wants". one would tend to think that IF that were the case, his real world information on such a purchase wouldnt be this type of questions on a forum. there has been a plethora of others that have made those same claims and wound up being nothing.

Obvious POS until proven otherwise. "The NEW American Way"

However big the boat is, don’t take it on lake mead! It’s been known to swallow everything except for 33’ scarabs.

Assuming that you are as well off as you say buy a 25' vhull to get your feet wet, learn the basics, bounce off the dock a time or two . Then take the class, that way you have a point of reference. After the class step up and buy something bigger more to your liking. A man of your means can certainly afford to lose a bit of money on a "starter boat " .

“I can obviously afford what ever boats I want.”
LOL ok than go buy all the boats you mentioned… DCB, Skater, and MTI.. instead of asking the question on OFO, you can find out first hand which is best for you. LOL!

Good advice here, but, I would suggest 27"-30' with twins and full hydraulic steering for starter. Something in the 70 mph range.

I would agree I don't care if you can afford anything you want, a 30+ foot 100mph cat is not a good first time performance boat to learn on. These things can hurt you or your passengers pretty quick, and all the "I'll be careful" goes out the door as soon as someone tests you. And like carnuts says, if you have the money you say you can buy something and have no worries, when you are ready get rid of it and get something else. Most likely you will anyway.

Nobody can make a joke anymore without someone getting all butthurt.
It`s a joke, not a dick, don`t take it so hard.

Im offended by your post.

I'm offended that you're offended about me or someone else is offended about an offensive suggestion about an offender. Please don't take offense.

Handing the keys to a very high performance boat to a inexperienced boater (no matter how well intentioned)is like handing keys for a performance car to a 16 year old drive. When it goes wrong it goes really wrong and innocent people get hurt or killed and everyone wonders how it happend. You know, "thoughts and prayers " then everyone goes back to whatever they were doing. The only time we think about others actions is when the insurance bill comes.

HOLY SH*T! LMFAO. That right there was funny.


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I don't understand the whole Jim Darr thing and the weird posts he puts up every once in a while. I don't get the rational of doing this. He posts some random semi weird question that gets everyone talking (kind've like this one) but what the end game? To see people argue on here because he know it will happen, like it did on this thread? I just don't get the purpose.
This also reminds me of the guy that came on here about a year ago asking about buying a 50 Cigarette or an SL52 Outerlimits. questions were a little darr esque....Turned out the guy was legit and bought both (confirmed). LOL You just never know.

Even said it twice because he means it; "I can obviously afford what ever boat I want, and I mean what ever boats I want" :bong:

If it is BS and Darr you never will because you don't have a mental defect.

And the answer to the OP's question is this. Locate and buy this.
Your budget and starting on small lakes. Right up your alley. Not just 2, psssshhhh, FOUR turbines son. :drink:
"Tres Martian" [sic] doesn't even have a class yet dedicated to this boat it's so bad ass.

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My GOD, I wish SOMEBODY would get that thing out of mothballs and actually put it to it......

Thanks. Brad.
Model Machine and Precision LLC
(937)545-8991

One can only hope the o.p. is legit and simply doesn't understand how his post came across. It is SO over the top that it screams 'TROLL" but as others have said, you never know. In my line of work I deal with a lot of extremely wealthy individuals (think owners of Gulfstream G500/G600 jets) who just don't "get it" when they tend to rub people the wrong way...a lifetime of wealth and influence and insulation from the real world can do this to a person. Personally, I call troll, someone who went a did a search on 'impressive keywords to use on a boating forum' and tried to run with it. But if not, one hopes he comes back, gets off his high-horse, and behaves in a manner that will do more to endear himself.

It just screams Darr - and I ain't been around here for that long.

I'm picturing Austin Powers trying to turn the golf cart around. Big boat small lake.

love that boat!!!
But, I am poor just a tadd above average guy... will keep my old resin bucket for now.... :)

Phenomenon was in Slidell, AL last I saw. Had four turbines reduced to two. So with just two measly 2000hp turbines and weighing a gajillion pounds it might go a little over 100? That and it was made to hit a wall at 250mph I’d say it’d be a great boat for our OP.

it was bought converted to twin turbines and videos of it running are on Scotty’s fb page

can you post a link id love to see that big girl on the water again

Start small my 02 a few years seat time small go fast under 70mph learn the water:eureka: Then go big as you want 35' 80-90 mph v hull or cat hull? But then try to buy a training course for both good luck:boat:

I’ve changed my mind about ‘BamBam2022’.
4 posts, 3 new threads hasn’t visited the site since starting this thread.

Unless he has Pebbles locked in the bedroom with him, I think BamBam is playing solo.

RR

funny how that works isnt it, yet all the people wanted to blame my friends and i for big scotty debacle, read the thread i said the same thing you just did? one thing i did learn was how valuable my time is, now i dont give it away freely... but back to this guy, he can afford what he wants, he should buy a better resource collection ctr.

Wat I meant was let's not automatically label him a POS, if he is it will come out in short time then we can al collectively label him a POS.
However he is moving my marker that direction.

ThankYou Brother!

Thank You, Sir.

Thank You, Sir. I could be very well that person. And a matter of fact, I’m that person. I hope nothing offended anyone here by my Very important question. I simply asked and simply stated my direct intentions, for purchasing such a Boat! Many for what’ it’s worth probably don’t have the discipline or concern for others around you. Well I do, and if it took years to learn the boat, then shall it be. And P.S., again for those whom feelings were hurt, there was no bragging rights when it came to money are financial means. It was simply stating, if bigger was the way to go with enough training and proper safety training as well, versus trying to go with multiple boats, just to end up with one. FACTS.

I’ll send you the pics, with keys in hand LMAO!