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EV's are not going away. Just avoid the ones from England made by Lucas.

Lol...the 'Prince of Darkness'...
I know Lucas well, having been a British sports car nut for years...

Electric boats for the fortunate few and no boats for the majority?

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Originally Posted by zfrilly (Post 4809332)

I saw a commercial for a huge electric semi once. Said it was the future and they were pretty much ready to be released for commercial use, Then everyone started digging deeper and found out the whole thing was a fraud. Nikola was their name. Remember, just because someone has some flashy video of their product or makes claims about how good it is means nothing anymore. Theranos should ring another bell. Nothing against electric at all. I wish it were more feasible, just haven't seen anything that really makes me think we are only a few years out, I see decades before we are there.

The problem is NOT the technology at the moment, but that it doesn't make sense for most potential users due to purchase price. I remember 20 years ago when Leonardo DiCaprio and his dad came into Toyota of Hollywood and bought several of the first Toyota Prius sold in the U.S. They were small ugly cars with lots of limitations and I was thinking: only rich people and celebrities will be crazy enough to buy these things, and for quite a while that was the case. When Larry Smith, of Scarab fame, 15 years ago invited me to check out the Torqeedo electric outboard for sailboats and dingies, those days it was the same thing, everything made sense except the price. The Norwegians are a very well-to-do people due to their government's offshore oil income the last 40 years, pretty much unlimited hydroelectric power, and a seafaring cosmopolitan trade heritage. This is the only reason they have a society that has the means to already have in use large, fast, fully electric ferries and other commercial boats. For the average Thor Eriksson, the Goldfish X9 with an 800 hp electrical motor is not doable, but the 150 hp electrical outboard is and will be on their ribs to play with during weekend boating excursions already this coming summer. Only a few wealthy Swedes and Danes will buy them as a status novelty to show off to friends at next summer's vacation-home parties. However, the technology is already here, and in a couple of years it will be almost as user-friendly and logistically practical as fossil fuel driven boats. My guts are telling me that the biggest hurdle for any electrical vehicle/vessel to be the new norm will continue to be battery cost and re-charging station networks. Most Western nations won't be able to raise the capital to go electrical for quite some time. Our societies are past our prime and have so many other costly problems that need to be addressed first. 50 years ago pretty much any American working class family could afford to get a smaller family boat and head for the lake. That will sadly not be the case in the future and it starts to look as grim for many Europeans too. Going to the beach wearing the life vests will be as close to boating even most Vikings will come.
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I think the E Cig Vaporized... :party-smiley-004:

About 10-12 years ago there was a electric Diesel hybred cruising catamaran out. The top was covered in solar cells, had a small wind driven generator as well. The engines used the bell-housing as a motor/generator so when on pure fuel it charged the batteries.

It could also run pure electric or a combo with the electric helping the motors.

I think they said in combo mode at 8-10 knots it got mileage in the teens. Was a Australian company, can’t remember the name.

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Originally Posted by SabrToothSqrl (Post 4809352)

the hydrofoils look sick. Always thought that was the way to go. smoother ride. Much more efficient.

Love my Model X, wife has a Model 3. Electric is the future no doubt, but power boats take a LOT of... power. Maybe someday we'll get a battery the size of a microwave that holds millions of kWh. :). I'd always wanted to throw a motor in the bottom of an outdrive, with no vertical shaft needed. No transmission needed.

This is an incredibly exciting time, cars have been the same for 100 years of suck squeeze bang blow. Finally some really cool stuff. Can't wait to test drive a F-150 Lightning, Rivian, CyberTruck and hummer!
I haven't filled a gas car since 2015.

Someday we plan to live on a boat to travel (50-70 foot). I had thoughts of... what if it was like a locomotive? Diesel engine + generator + motors on the main shafts. I did some quick math based on some CAT strait 6s, based on their HP. (equivalent motors). the control of zero RPM shafts/quiet/less vibration/etc. But the power requirements are massive, hence a massive generator, which seems to negate a lot of the benefits... but still a fun math exercise... Looking into solar panels to even reduce the need for the generator, but a floating house needs a lot of power... that mini nuke reactor is looking better and better lol.
I'm so tired of the oil and grease crawling all over the 350s in my 292...

It's here!

Not replacing my Formula 292 any time soon, but that looks so cool.

The motor technology is here, batteries have been the hold up. Although batteries have become better, liquid cooling and size/weight and amp/hours have been the curse. Right now there are a couple of tests being conducted on batteries half the size and weight with two to three times the capacity. This will be a game changer, as Tank said don’t be surprised, they may be closer than you think.