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540Fever 04-09-2022 08:46 AM

BMAX upper gears
 
I searched and found sone folks on here have used their drives with good success. Since I can’t find the XZ gears I’ve been looking at some other options. Does anyone know if these are just Bravo gears or actually made by BMAX? If they are BMAX they appear helical, curious if I’d have any issues mating them to a Bravo setup and lowers?

I plan to give them a call Monday but am impatient like most.

https://bravoshop.net/product/bmax-1-5-ratio-gear-set/

Thanks,
Todd

JaayTeee 04-09-2022 12:20 PM

BMax upper gears are much larger that Bravo gears, they only fit
the BMax case.

540Fever 04-09-2022 12:40 PM

Damn! Thanks for the info!

1MOSES1 04-09-2022 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by 540Fever (Post 4828376)
Damn! Thanks for the info!

have seen you post on many of the forums…what power and boat are you running? other members will be able to chime in an assess whether you will have issues running standard bravo, xz, or xr’s.

they may say you need something more like a b-max or imco.

but we need to know the specifics

540Fever 04-09-2022 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4828382)
have seen you post on many of the forums…what power and boat are you running? other members will be able to chime in an assess whether you will have issues running standard bravo, xz, or xr’s.

they may say you need something more like a b-max or imco.

but we need to know the specifics

27’ Fountain 540NA that’s currently being assembled. 10:1CR, Dart 320 heads, hyd roller, 1050 Dominator. We’ll dyno tune it once done but should make some good torque and probably close to 700hp.

I had them pull the drive since it was in the shop because it’s a new boat to me and I noticed a little drop in the fluid reservoir - was hoping just some seals. Got into it and the XR gears were pretty shot so he recommended a rebuild with XZ gears for a little better longevity.

They’ve been waiting on gears and it continues to push out month after month. I’ve got a house rented and already paid for the Cannonball run in June and if I don’t have gears in a few weeks, no way the boat will be ready.

I was able to find the lowers and clutch, but they’re not doing me any good without the uppers. Hence, I’ve been searching for a set of XZ uppers. My thought was maybe I could find a different gear that would work in my setup.

I know someone has a beautiful set of XZ gears collecting dust I just need to find them 😂

thanks

blownhammer2000 04-09-2022 10:09 PM

Just curious, I get you want xz, but why not just replace the xr's? I'm sure you would have better luck finding someone with set of those, I searched high and low last May for my x uppers, was a joke then finding anything

540Fever 04-09-2022 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by blownhammer2000 (Post 4828414)
Just curious, I get you want xz, but why not just replace the xr's? I'm sure you would have better luck finding someone with set of those, I searched high and low last May for my x uppers, was a joke then finding anything

Honestly that’s not a bad consideration at this point.

TeamSaris 04-10-2022 09:24 AM

Pretty much all gears with the exception of custom ones (IMCO, BMAX) are on back order right now. We're a Merc premier dealer, Ive had sets of XR upper gears on order since Sept 2021. The current ETA is October 2022.

540Fever 04-10-2022 11:08 AM

Another question here.

From what I've read there is only one XR upper ratio. If I were to match that with my XZ lowers (15/19) that should give me a final ratio of 1.50. Are there any special parts required to mate the XR uppers to XZ lowers? Will the XZ clutch work for the (861781A1) - I think it will.

Thanks,
Todd

JaayTeee 04-10-2022 12:47 PM

The case doesn’t matter, it’s considered an X case, you need a 32/27
tooth count X upper gear set to maintain 1.5:1 ratio, there’s about 12 different thrust races
used to set gear backlash, you would probably want the start with what you
have 1st to determine how close you are,
the clutch is the same

FWIW, unless you don’t mind
replacing gears in a short time
frame, I wouldn’t use the XR upper gearsets

bencini231 04-10-2022 01:46 PM

I see quite a few people running the X gears instead of the XR gears. I have a few friends that are running them now with no problems at all and have checked them yearly. That's just another option you have.

Unlimited jd 04-10-2022 02:25 PM

X/XZ upper is the same.
Bravo 1 x uses the x upper, std bravo lower
Bravo 1 XZ uses x upper, xr lower.
I rebuilt my its xr drives last year with x upper gears.

540Fever 04-10-2022 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by blownhammer2000 (Post 4828414)
Just curious, I get you want xz, but why not just replace the xr's? I'm sure you would have better luck finding someone with set of those, I searched high and low last May for my x uppers, was a joke then finding anything

Found a set of XR uppers today that I now realize will work with the XZ lowers and clutch I bought. Overpaid, but as they say, pay to play. Would much rather be boating than waiting on gears at the mercy of Mercury! 😎

blownhammer2000 04-11-2022 10:47 AM

Good deal! I would of done the same thing, buys you time on the water until the others are available


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