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Wildman_grafix 08-09-2022 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4840915)

(Never did understand how you can only run the 3 final races and be called the "world champion" when racing was underway all season long all across the country)

This.

Smarty 08-09-2022 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by HuskerPerformance (Post 4840851)
Looking for some feedback.

Here is the skinny. Race Team finishes the World Championships in second place and protested the first place boat due to illegal equipment. Chief Referee is presented a protest in writing within an hour after race completion (according to the organizations rule book) and disqualifies the first place boat due to the infraction. The win goes to the second place team, team interviewed by the media although not awarded the trophy at the awards banquet and is told protest is still under review. Protesting Team notified 5 days later that the protest will not hold with this explanation: Protested team ran previous years with the same set up and that there was a misprint in the rule book for the year in question (in essence the rule book was wrong??). Protested boat ran 0 races during the regular season and only participated in the Worlds, Protesting boat ran the entire season. Chief Referee contacted the Protesting Team a month later with disgust with the overruling made by the Organizations President and quits the Organization.


How would you feel about this and what would you do?


Thanks

What specific advantage did the boat with the illegal equipment have that gave the competitor the advantage and what specifically did the rule book call for that was not complied with, I ask these questions because that would be very helpful in fully understanding the disadvantage you experienced.

thisistank 08-09-2022 10:06 AM

Frankly, it's stupid sh!t like this, the way the various splitting offshore organizations, the in-fighting, the egos, the BS, the favorites, rules for thee but not for me, etc. etc. that make offshore racing difficult at best to follow and at worst, a complete sh!t show. I love the whole offshore racing scene and have since I was a kid and even I can't keep up with the rules, the brackets, the divisions, the changes the in-fighting, the turn over, all the DRAAAAAAAMA. :picard1:

TYPHOON 08-09-2022 01:13 PM

Some teams interpret the rules differently than what they were written for. That gives them an excuse as to why they didn't follow the rule how it was meant to read.. Its a real $hitty way of taking advantage and then complaining when called out. I believe there is or was a statement in the front of the rules that said something to the effect of If your not sure about a rule ask for clarification don't assume you have out smarted a rule and bang goes the dyno mite !!!

1Zoom 08-09-2022 02:02 PM

Unfortunately this is what causes the decline in this sport.

Interceptor 08-09-2022 03:49 PM

Kinda naïve to think cheating, aka bending the rules or undermining the rules, doesn't exist at most every form of competition. Even the NFL, NASCAR, Tour de France have cheaters, from under inflated footballs to pieces of tape on stockcars and and individuals doping. Smokey Yunick was elevated to god like status for his ability to cheat frequently and fool NASCAR inspectors. Google any motorsport sanction body and cheating for a quick education.


DallasBAJA 08-09-2022 04:25 PM

This is a really good video/story to listen to about a topic like this. Pretty crazy what people would come up with the find the edge to win.




HuskerPerformance 08-09-2022 06:06 PM

Appreciate the Responses!
 

Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 4840930)
What specific advantage did the boat with the illegal equipment have that gave the competitor the advantage and what specifically did the rule book call for that was not complied with, I ask these questions because that would be very helpful in fully understanding the disadvantage you experienced.


Rules state thru-hull pickups are not allowed. The advantage of a thru-hull pickup is as follows:

1. Allows coolant water to be forced into a common manifold whereas each motor will draw off the manifold will have a sufficient supply of coolant water as long as the hull is moving forward

2. If a water pump fails or a bag or weeds are ingested into the low water pickup on the lower unit, the motor will continue to run safely

3. Allows higher engine jacking and the use of a higher pitch prop and higher top speed


We appreciate the time ya'll took to read, reply and like. Supercool to see the pro Typhoon respond with insightful opinions. We are still looking for your expertise and opinion of "what would you do" in a situation like this. This is not a recent event, in fact its ancient history of one of the roughest offshore races on record.

Smarty 08-09-2022 06:54 PM

Thank you for the thorough response, I now clearly see your point.

boostbros 08-10-2022 09:32 AM

weeds are ever more of an issue with thru hull at slow speeds i really dont see much advantage unless way over 100 sorta like cleat size they have 8 inch you have 6 inch in reality theres little difference if anything maybe thru hull is a disadvantage at under 100 i have had many plug up requiring removing the hose from thru hull and back flushing the weeds...... up here they are terrible around the marinas in lake ontario so we idle out to clean water then clean the intake thats often plugged second point is a thru hull is very easy to see before you head out to race why cry foul after? if you won would the same protest been made?


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